Originally posted by Heafstagg Nope, not at all. I suppose it's because I'm not from the "everyone and everything must be equal or else nobody gets it" generation. My daughters are in school right now and that's all they preach to them. Nothing like raising a society of wussies. Can you imagine some of these people grown up whining to thier boss that someone else has coffee and they don't? Yeaaahhh that's not going to work.
I honestly feel sorry for the children and the rude awakening they will be in for at some point down the road. They don't even know at this point because it's been completely driven into their heads.
Exactly, I've been doing my best to teach my daughters that it's not the right way of thinking. There's a girl in one of my daughters classes that's alergic to milk, therefore nobody in the class can have milk. That's how stupid it's becoming.
No (been said a dozen of times already ) If people want to spend money on Collector/Limited eidtion packs to get an advantage for the first <x> levels or pay extra for a couple of pixels, be my guest. I personally only buy CEs/LEs if an in-game mount is hard to get (too expensive or too much effort), but mainly, I stick to regular editions just to save money
Also a note on the cross-game rewards, yeah, those suck. Also because some games don't appeal to me like the MMO I play do, but then again, most cross-game rewards are just fluff...
Originally posted by Heafstagg Nope, not at all. I suppose it's because I'm not from the "everyone and everything must be equal or else nobody gets it" generation. My daughters are in school right now and that's all they preach to them. Nothing like raising a society of wussies. Can you imagine some of these people grown up whining to thier boss that someone else has coffee and they don't? Yeaaahhh that's not going to work.
I honestly feel sorry for the children and the rude awakening they will be in for at some point down the road. They don't even know at this point because it's been completely driven into their heads.
Exactly, I've been doing my best to teach my daughters that it's not the right way of thinking. There's a girl in one of my daughters classes that's alergic to milk, therefore nobody in the class can have milk. That's how stupid it's becoming.
That is absolutely mind blowing. I hadn't heard of something like that actually happening, but I kind of figured it would end this way.
It really doesn't surprise me now that I think about it.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV Have played: You name it If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
I sent one of those little chocolate bars to school with my daughter just after halloween. I got a phone call from the principle giving me a hard time because: A) it was unfair to the other kids and it was negligent of me to give my child "junk food".
Originally posted by Heafstagg Nope, not at all. I suppose it's because I'm not from the "everyone and everything must be equal or else nobody gets it" generation. My daughters are in school right now and that's all they preach to them. Nothing like raising a society of wussies. Can you imagine some of these people grown up whining to thier boss that someone else has coffee and they don't? Yeaaahhh that's not going to work.
I honestly feel sorry for the children and the rude awakening they will be in for at some point down the road. They don't even know at this point because it's been completely driven into their heads.
Exactly, I've been doing my best to teach my daughters that it's not the right way of thinking. There's a girl in one of my daughters classes that's alergic to milk, therefore nobody in the class can have milk. That's how stupid it's becoming.
That is absolutely mind blowing. I hadn't heard of something like that actually happening, but I kind of figured it would end this way.
It really doesn't surprise me now that I think about it.
What if it's not the fairness thing as you describe, but the allergic milk girl's parents are so over-protective that they are the ones that did it to the whole class to protect their one child? For some reason I see parents as being the villains and Teacher's as having common sense.
I sent one of those little chocolate bars to school with my daughter just after halloween. I got a phone call from the principle giving me a hard time because: A) it was unfair to the other kids and it was negligent of me to give my child "junk food".
I sent another one with her the next day.
Haha that made my day, thanks for sharing.
I'm surprised they didn't have you arrested and sent to some kind of Fitness training and parenting camp. Just wait a few years and I may be right on that
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV Have played: You name it If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Originally posted by Heafstagg Nope, not at all. I suppose it's because I'm not from the "everyone and everything must be equal or else nobody gets it" generation. My daughters are in school right now and that's all they preach to them. Nothing like raising a society of wussies. Can you imagine some of these people grown up whining to thier boss that someone else has coffee and they don't? Yeaaahhh that's not going to work.
I honestly feel sorry for the children and the rude awakening they will be in for at some point down the road. They don't even know at this point because it's been completely driven into their heads.
Exactly, I've been doing my best to teach my daughters that it's not the right way of thinking. There's a girl in one of my daughters classes that's alergic to milk, therefore nobody in the class can have milk. That's how stupid it's becoming.
That is absolutely mind blowing. I hadn't heard of something like that actually happening, but I kind of figured it would end this way.
It really doesn't surprise me now that I think about it.
What if it's not the fairness thing as you describe, but the allergic milk girl's parents are so over-protective that they are the ones that did it to the whole class to protect their one child? For some reason I see parents as being the villains and Teacher's as having common sense.
Nope they said it was because it was unfair. It's not even a bad allergy. As in she might go into anaphylactic shock, she would just get hives or gas or something. Regardless, who are other parents to say what other children may or may not have based on solely their childs needs. It brings us back to my original point......nothing is equal in this world and letting children find out that its not at a late age in life, like adulthood, is going to cause some serious problems in the future. A society of wussies and the instant gratification crowd. We see these kinds of examples everyday in MMOs. Its quite sad.
No, they either A: Paid a little extra for the game to get that item B. Are fans of the game and collect everything so they go that extra mile for a free cool item C. Support the game by going to conventions to get said cool item
Really people need to get over this entitled mentality, do people really expect to get things that other people paid extra for to get it as well without doing the the same?
Come closer, (smack) I didn't slap your face , I simply gave your face a hi-five....
I sent one of those little chocolate bars to school with my daughter just after halloween. I got a phone call from the principle giving me a hard time because: A) it was unfair to the other kids and it was negligent of me to give my child "junk food".
I sent another one with her the next day.
Haha that made my day, thanks for sharing.
I'm surprised they didn't have you arrested and sent to some kind of Fitness training and parenting camp. Just wait a few years and I may be right on that
Hehe its just a sad state of affairs really. My daughters aren't fat kids, they play sports and are highly active outdoors. I'm a forester so we see lots of the outdoors. If my daughters want a freaking small chocolate bar in thier lunches once in awhile theyre going to get it and I'm not about to let some tool tell me I'm being negligent by insinuating that I'm providing them with an un-healthy diet or whatever it was he was implying :P. Oh well lol.
Of course not, if I want those items I will pay more money to get them. I never understand people that think they should be given everything for nothing.
Originally posted by Heafstagg Nope, not at all. I suppose it's because I'm not from the "everyone and everything must be equal or else nobody gets it" generation. My daughters are in school right now and that's all they preach to them. Nothing like raising a society of wussies. Can you imagine some of these people grown up whining to thier boss that someone else has coffee and they don't? Yeaaahhh that's not going to work.
I honestly feel sorry for the children and the rude awakening they will be in for at some point down the road. They don't even know at this point because it's been completely driven into their heads.
Exactly, I've been doing my best to teach my daughters that it's not the right way of thinking. There's a girl in one of my daughters classes that's alergic to milk, therefore nobody in the class can have milk. That's how stupid it's becoming.
That is absolutely mind blowing. I hadn't heard of something like that actually happening, but I kind of figured it would end this way.
It really doesn't surprise me now that I think about it.
What if it's not the fairness thing as you describe, but the allergic milk girl's parents are so over-protective that they are the ones that did it to the whole class to protect their one child? For some reason I see parents as being the villains and Teacher's as having common sense.
Nope they said it was because it was unfair. It's not even a bad allergy. As in she might go into anaphylactic shock, she would just get hives or gas or something. Regardless, who are other parents to say what other children may or may not have based on solely their childs needs. It brings us back to my original point......nothing is equal in this world and letting children find out that its not at a late age in life, like adulthood, is going to cause some serious problems in the future. A society of wussies and the instant gratification crowd. We see these kinds of examples everyday in MMOs. Its quite sad.
No, they either A: Paid a little extra for the game to get that item B. Are fans of the game and collect everything so they go that extra mile for a free cool item C. Support the game by going to conventions to get said cool item
Really people need to get over this entitled mentality, do people really expect to get things that other people paid extra for to get it as well without doing the the same?
Come closer, (smack) I didn't slap your face , I simply gave your face a hi-five....
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
I sent one of those little chocolate bars to school with my daughter just after halloween. I got a phone call from the principle giving me a hard time because: A) it was unfair to the other kids and it was negligent of me to give my child "junk food".
I sent another one with her the next day.
Haha that made my day, thanks for sharing.
I'm surprised they didn't have you arrested and sent to some kind of Fitness training and parenting camp. Just wait a few years and I may be right on that
Unfair to other kids? Pfft I would of told them to go ##%$ themselves...
I sent one of those little chocolate bars to school with my daughter just after halloween. I got a phone call from the principle giving me a hard time because: A) it was unfair to the other kids and it was negligent of me to give my child "junk food".
I sent another one with her the next day.
Haha that made my day, thanks for sharing.
I'm surprised they didn't have you arrested and sent to some kind of Fitness training and parenting camp. Just wait a few years and I may be right on that
Unfair to other kids? Pfft I would of told them to go ##%$ themselves...
Lol that was my intention by sending another one with her the next day. They never called a second time ;P
Hehe its just a sad state of affairs really. My daughters aren't fat kids, they play sports and are highly active outdoors. I'm a forester so we see lots of the outdoors. If my daughters want a freaking small chocolate bar in thier lunches once in awhile theyre going to get it and I'm not about to let some tool tell me I'm being negligent by insinuating that I'm providing them with an un-healthy diet or whatever it was he was implying :P. Oh well lol.
No, they either A: Paid a little extra for the game to get that item B. Are fans of the game and collect everything so they go that extra mile for a free cool item C. Support the game by going to conventions to get said cool item
Really people need to get over this entitled mentality, do people really expect to get things that other people paid extra for to get it as well without doing the the same?
Come closer, (smack) I didn't slap your face , I simply gave your face a hi-five....
I actually think it's kinda cool to see that stuff.
Does it bother you? If so, does it also bother you when you see that stuff in real life, as well?
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Earned it or paid for it aren't arguments if the item still isn't available to be earnt or paid.
The effort required for convention attendance is also non-proportional for people, so one man earning a convention reward might have simply paid the entry fee. It might take someone else thousands of dollars in tickets.
The simple, quite uncontestable fact remains that there are items in game that some players has no ability to earn or buy, because he came to a game late (which again might not be his fault) or any other number of reasons.
Now, if these things are purely cosmetic I don't really care. But, obviously this isn't always the case.
Most of these rewards are a matter a simple matter of luck, monetary timing or geographical proximity.
But, as I said, if it offers no real benefit it doesn't bother me.
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Exactly, I've been doing my best to teach my daughters that it's not the right way of thinking. There's a girl in one of my daughters classes that's alergic to milk, therefore nobody in the class can have milk. That's how stupid it's becoming.
No (been said a dozen of times already
) If people want to spend money on Collector/Limited eidtion packs to get an advantage for the first <x> levels or pay extra for a couple of pixels, be my guest. I personally only buy CEs/LEs if an in-game mount is hard to get (too expensive or too much effort), but mainly, I stick to regular editions just to save money 
Also a note on the cross-game rewards, yeah, those suck. Also because some games don't appeal to me like the MMO I play do, but then again, most cross-game rewards are just fluff...
That is absolutely mind blowing. I hadn't heard of something like that actually happening, but I kind of figured it would end this way.
It really doesn't surprise me now that I think about it.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
I sent one of those little chocolate bars to school with my daughter just after halloween. I got a phone call from the principle giving me a hard time because: A) it was unfair to the other kids and
it was negligent of me to give my child "junk food".
I sent another one with her the next day.
What if it's not the fairness thing as you describe, but the allergic milk girl's parents are so over-protective that they are the ones that did it to the whole class to protect their one child? For some reason I see parents as being the villains and Teacher's as having common sense.
Taru-Gallante-Blood elf-Elysean-Kelari-Crime Fighting-Imperial Agent
Haha that made my day, thanks for sharing.
I'm surprised they didn't have you arrested and sent to some kind of Fitness training and parenting camp. Just wait a few years and I may be right on that
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Nope they said it was because it was unfair. It's not even a bad allergy. As in she might go into anaphylactic shock, she would just get hives or gas or something. Regardless, who are other parents to say what other children may or may not have based on solely their childs needs. It brings us back to my original point......nothing is equal in this world and letting children find out that its not at a late age in life, like adulthood, is going to cause some serious problems in the future. A society of wussies and the instant gratification crowd. We see these kinds of examples everyday in MMOs. Its quite sad.
Haha. I was thinking that too, but i couldn't find the concise words to put it all together myself.
No, they either A: Paid a little extra for the game to get that item B. Are fans of the game and collect everything so they go that extra mile for a free cool item C. Support the game by going to conventions to get said cool item
Really people need to get over this entitled mentality, do people really expect to get things that other people paid extra for to get it as well without doing the the same?
Come closer, (smack) I didn't slap your face , I simply gave your face a hi-five....
Hehe its just a sad state of affairs really. My daughters aren't fat kids, they play sports and are highly active outdoors. I'm a forester so we see lots of the outdoors. If my daughters want a freaking small chocolate bar in thier lunches once in awhile theyre going to get it and I'm not about to let some tool tell me I'm being negligent by insinuating that I'm providing them with an un-healthy diet or whatever it was he was implying :P. Oh well lol.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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Ugh the truth is so oppressing!
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LOL. Now down low.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
what is going on here?
Unfair to other kids? Pfft I would of told them to go ##%$ themselves...
Well said and agreed here!
Lol that was my intention by sending another one with her the next day. They never called a second time ;P
Ugh it's so terrible! Please stop!!!
*Five seconds later* Tell me more!
Taru-Gallante-Blood elf-Elysean-Kelari-Crime Fighting-Imperial Agent
If I did down low it would be like this.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoWblwKdeHg&playnext=1&list=PLB99A60F6DD7C2519&feature=results_video 1:05 and you DONT want that....
I actually think it's kinda cool to see that stuff.
Does it bother you? If so, does it also bother you when you see that stuff in real life, as well?
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Examples of rl equivelent mate?
I absolutely agree with the original post.
Earned it or paid for it aren't arguments if the item still isn't available to be earnt or paid.
The effort required for convention attendance is also non-proportional for people, so one man earning a convention reward might have simply paid the entry fee. It might take someone else thousands of dollars in tickets.
The simple, quite uncontestable fact remains that there are items in game that some players has no ability to earn or buy, because he came to a game late (which again might not be his fault) or any other number of reasons.
Now, if these things are purely cosmetic I don't really care. But, obviously this isn't always the case.
Most of these rewards are a matter a simple matter of luck, monetary timing or geographical proximity.
But, as I said, if it offers no real benefit it doesn't bother me.
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