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Camelot Unchained Posts Are Getting Ridiculous
fat_taddler
Member Posts: 286
Lately I cringe everytime I visit this website due to the completely delusional hype and constant posts about a game that doesn't even exist.
Mark Jacobs writes a blog with some really great ideas, most of which I completely agree with but that's it, there's no game yet and until we actually see these ideas at work, there's really not much to discuss or get hyped about.
What's really funny is that many of these CU zealots seem to have already made up their minds that the games coming out this year are going to suck, yet they will bow at the altar of Camelot Unchained after reading a few blog posts.
I understand that people are yearning for something new but let's focus on games that are at least in production.
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"there's really not much to discuss"
Mark Jacobs is posting here and claims he is looking for feedback and criticisms so I'd argue the point that there is not much to discuss. If nothing else, there is some excitement seeing the development process from the idea stage to (hopefully) completion. It's not often you get this level of interaction (in my experience) with a developer at this stage of the project so the scepticism/optimism and everything in between is understandable.
I'll agree that there is quite a bit of posting about CU, to the point that there seem to be 2+ threads on the front page at any given time. But, leading up to asking for money (Kickstarter), I suppose the more information/perspective, the better.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
This.
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
Humans are naive. You know when Mcdonalds says we produce the most healthy food? they believe- same reason with everything ells.
I mean i sell stuff over Inet platforms- and i can guarantee you i can make out of shit gold- and people will buy it and thank me for that!
HUMANS ARE NAIVE!
I say who cares, let people get excited if they want. Who does it hurt? Why should it bother anyone? I'm more bothered by all the haters, who just want to attack others, and put othrs down.
People are freaking out over the next planned Star Wars trilogy, not even in production. That doesn't mean they aren't going to see a bunch of movies coming out this year. People can have multiple interests. It's human nature to get excited about stuff. It's like buying a lotery ticket, I think people just like to dream a bit.
It can hurt the game. Over-hype is just as bad as under-hype.
One that is completely wrong, adds nothing, and will probably be one of the longer lived threads.
What's really funny is all of the CU zealot/armchair developers have rewritten the game at least 25 times crying about how the game should and shouldn't be... Steath, RvR, PvE, FFA, CC, the list goes on LOL!!
Personally I have complete faith in MJ's vision and have tabled getting excited about this game until 2014 when we could potentially see some real progress...
A lot of these Devs are starting to go back to their roots... The title should really be called Mark Jacobs Unchained since he is free from the chains of EA and can go back to developing from his heart.
What are your other Hobbies?
Gaming is Dirt Cheap compared to this...
That is ludicrous. So we need a self-appointed arbiter to tell us what games can and can't be discussed. "The Hype-judge decrees everyone should just stop posting and being excited because there is a clear and present danger people MAY be over-hyping a game?"
Hey it worked for GW2 and D3.
The hype will last until the kickstarter ends anyway. This game will have a real beta not just a few hours for 3 weekends like GW2 or up to level 13 like D3, but the whole game and 24/7 for months. We will know if it's overhyped or not long before release.
Right now the hype is needed to help with the kickstarter. I don't know of any other game that asked for ~$2 mil and got it.
DAoC - Excalibur & Camlann
If it bothers you so much, why even look at the CU forum and why post in it? Why not just ignore it altogether if it bothers you so much?
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot
Actually, based on the threads, on this forum, for D3 and GW2 it hasn't worked. Show me one thread that shows it has helped?
Kickstarter it pocket change - they need to get at least 10X more than that to produce a game any more. Kickstarter is what they will use to get the money amount they actually need to write/produce the game.
I follow every Camelot Unchained post, blog, or development update for three reasons:
1. Mark Jacobs co-founded Mythic Entertainment, which developed Dark Age of Camelot. Despite an outdated graphics engine, it's still the best player versus player content based game on the market.
2. The same style of mechanics, design, and thought processes that created Dark Age of Camelot will be sewn into Camelot Unchained. Group dynamics and keep seiges have yet to be captured as well as DAoC, and if any game will do it - it'll be Camelot Unchained.
3. I absolutely love game development. That's why I'm currently attending Full Sail University in order to acquire a bachelor's degree in game art. It's rare you can witness a game company and industry professionals openly craft a masterpiece in the making for the entire world to see.
It isn't "delusional hype"; in fact, it's the kind of hype that excites the fan base, as well as the developers, in making the best game possible. As long as Mark continues to travel down the path least traveled and provide incredible access to the development process, you'll see a flood of posts regarding this game.
The only other MMO game I'm partially excited about is Matt Firor's announcement of The Elder Scrolls Online (TESO). Despite TESO having a much larger budget and man power for development, Camelot Unchained has the chance to be developed and released way before TESO simply because of the content that will be in TESO that won't be in CU.
Chuckle. But people do need reminding, the last "Resurrection of DAoC" vaporised in Beta just last summer. Several have gone down before that one.
(Most startups never even make it TO beta.) Positive attitude counts for something, sure. So does saying All The Right Things. A donation just might help.
But, even given all of those, Startups will still crumble.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/597/feature/5751/Developer-Perspectives-The-Startup-Staff.html
Some of you, likely, shared the same excitement for Dominus, less than a year ago? They hired a pretty much top of the line CE lead, they were serious about their title too. Sanya Weathers and Mark Jacobs are/were both refugees from the same company, in fact.
Sanya's at Undead Labs right now, if I'm not mistaken.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
BINGO.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Amen my good sir
Ok Ok..I've got a simple solution to this dilemma..
Head on over to camelot-unchained.net & discuss CU to your hearts desire! That will save our dearly beloved mmorpg user from having to see the CU posts!
** Camelot-Unchained.net **
http://camelot-unchained.net CU's first unofficial discussion forum geared towards the CU fans only.
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His point is that the forums is cluttered with this game thats all talk and speculation. Now you sir go kindly walk away
We always get users who dislike seeing a game talked about... but overall it shouldn't matter.
Whether the game is amazing, or terrible, or nonexistent, you'll have tons of posts getting information about it, then more posts bickering on whether it will be good or not, then more posts about how good or terrible it is, and then it will drop to being talked about almost never.
I see that as happening in the span of about a year...
Just give it more time OP, then we will all move on to the next game someone hates people discussing.
I think its more abotu the people posting "OMGAWSH this game is gunna be god!" "how many classes you think it will have" without it having anything on the tables is just rediculouse i can go out state my game system engine etc. gameplay mechanics, and have the same hype and craziness going on?