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  • TsaboHavocTsaboHavoc PinheiralPosts: 351Member
    Originally posted by sxvs

    this type of thing goes on all over the internet and in many games, stupid/inappropriate comments and such.

    has nothing to do with the elin, who aren't children.. they are some type of immortal fairy creatures in a fantasy world..

    these same people would most likely make ridiculous statements like that in any setting.

     

    i've had someone threaten my life in warcraft because i refused to duel him, we were both orcs... is the orc to blame for insane behavior.

     

     

    take a good look on elins friend, again.. now think u can free "play " them and say anything without regulations or laws. these kind of ppl arent interested in lore or progressing for l33t lvls, they have their own agenda and the game provides it. its has a lot of fetish things.

  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by Mardukk

    I'm guessing the people telling OP to not report it are just massive TERA fans, there's no other excuse.  I think the issue is more with the company's response than OP or even the idiots in global chat.  The problem is that this is a FTP game.  Banning accounts probably will not do much to stop these fools from playing.

    It was a huge, unchecked, problem BEFORE free to play.

  • ThorkuneThorkune Eastern, KYPosts: 1,828Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mistersalty1
    its words on the internet from some random person youll never meet. get over it

    Call me old fashioned and fickle, but I don't want to read sexual comments involving children. It might be just me though...

  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon

    I tried TERA recently after it went F2P.

    I have to say that I have not experienced worse community in any game I tried.

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  • nationalcitynationalcity Decatur, MIPosts: 330Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by nationalcity
    Originally posted by Zyzra

    Exactly.  The game is FILLED with people saying these atrocities.  Gamers with respect for other people shouldn't play this game because of the community.  Because there is no official action against this kind of hate and intolerance, every time someone spends money on TERA they are supporting racism, pedophilia, sexism and hate.

     

    GMAB I don't support any of them...

    I think your way off....

     

    You posting that is basically just as bad as the chat your talking about in game I mean really Pot meet Kettle....

    Don't play if you don't want but don't try and say people supporting it are racists and pedo I mean really?

    Since you didn't understand, I'll say it a different way.

    The company and mods behind TERA are ok with racism, sexism and other hate speech because they choose not to deal with it.

    If a person supports that company with money, they are supporting the company's actions - so they support the continued racist and hate speech in chat.

    I didn't say people supporting it at racists and pedo, not sure why you thought that.

     

    I'm not sure how my stance against such demeaning talk in a game meant for fun makes me as bad as people spouting racism, but believe that if you want.

    Well I apologize thats just what I got from the bolded part...

    I have no clue what server you guys were on but on Temprest Reach I have never had any problem besides Global I turned it off and never looked back...

    I mean once in awhile we get a troll in lfg,area,trade but I mean doesn't every game?

    Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know but I have never seen anyone talking about raping children or any of that such nonsense...

    I just havent seen on my server what you guys are talking about so maybe I just picked a good server I don't know....

  • OtakunOtakun New Providence, PAPosts: 864Member
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Otakun
     I guess I was too busy actually playing the game to notice the pointless chat. Maybe if more people were actually playing the game instead of sitting around bothering with the chat then it wouldn't be such a big deal. 

    Yeah, who needs to communicate in a multiplayer game anyways!

     

    Also, people saying to use /ignore commands are missing the point.  It isn't that every new player logging in should leave all sorts of channels and /ignore people.  It is that TERA should actively fight against the kind of hate in chat channels.  It shouldn't be OK with racism and child rape. 

    If you just ignore people and leave channels, you're saying you're pretty much OK with child rape comments in the game so long as you don't have to see it.

    You don't need global and area to play the game with others. I've done fine getting questing parties with just /say and if I need a dungeon then I use the dungeon finder. Simple as that. One last thing, do people forget that we have free speech in US. If you don't like it then ignore it but if some neck bearded basement dweller wants to make stupid comments then he should be allowed to do so without having a company get involved. If you can't deal with your own problems then that is your problem not the companies. 

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,185Member Uncommon

    Yep, global is bad and I do wish they would take a harder line about the vulgarity and racism.

    I turn global off and /ignore those who spam Area and LFG.

    Outside of those few loudmouths the community is actually really nice.  I've met some friendly people that pugged with me for overland group quests.

    I guess there are some perverts with an agenda to be loud.  There also seems, by the reaction, some people with an axe to grind from the other side of the coin.

  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by Otakun
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Otakun
     I guess I was too busy actually playing the game to notice the pointless chat. Maybe if more people were actually playing the game instead of sitting around bothering with the chat then it wouldn't be such a big deal. 

    Yeah, who needs to communicate in a multiplayer game anyways!

     

    Also, people saying to use /ignore commands are missing the point.  It isn't that every new player logging in should leave all sorts of channels and /ignore people.  It is that TERA should actively fight against the kind of hate in chat channels.  It shouldn't be OK with racism and child rape. 

    If you just ignore people and leave channels, you're saying you're pretty much OK with child rape comments in the game so long as you don't have to see it.

    You don't need global and area to play the game with others. I've done fine getting questing parties with just /say and if I need a dungeon then I use the dungeon finder. Simple as that. One last thing, do people forget that we have free speech in US. If you don't like it then ignore it but if some neck bearded basement dweller wants to make stupid comments then he should be allowed to do so without having a company get involved. If you can't deal with your own problems then that is your problem not the companies. 

    Free speech is one of the worse used excuses I see often.

    Try saying to a policeman "I'm going to kill you." and see if a free speech excuse gets you out of jail.

  • rimaxo14rimaxo14 chicopee, MAPosts: 118Member
    Just instantly ignore them you will find alot of freak shows in games like these... it only makes sense the weirdest of weird would flock too this type of community cause they're not wanted in the real world lol. But someone saying something like that about your child is truly disgusting..

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  • baphametbaphamet omaha, NEPosts: 2,836Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Aeonblades
    Originally posted by Zyzra Originally posted by nationalcity Originally posted by Zyzra Exactly.  The game is FILLED with people saying these atrocities.  Gamers with respect for other people shouldn't play this game because of the community.  Because there is no official action against this kind of hate and intolerance, every time someone spends money on TERA they are supporting racism, pedophilia, sexism and hate.  
    GMAB I don't support any of them... I think your way off....   You posting that is basically just as bad as the chat your talking about in game I mean really Pot meet Kettle.... Don't play if you don't want but don't try and say people supporting it are racists and pedo I mean really?
    Since you didn't understand, I'll say it a different way. The company and mods behind TERA are ok with racism, sexism and other hate speech because they choose not to deal with it. If a person supports that company with money, they are supporting the company's actions - so they support the continued racist and hate speech in chat. I didn't say people supporting it at racists and pedo, not sure why you thought that.   I'm not sure how my stance against such demeaning talk in a game meant for fun makes me as bad as people spouting racism, but believe that if you want.
    I just don't understand this viewpoint. Either you enjoy the companies game or you don't, paying them to play the game is not supporting racism or pedophilia lol.

    No company has the time or resources to deal with every troll in general chat, this is in every game, not just TERA.


    you are currently playing EQ and i guarantee that wouldn't slide in that game if it was reported.

    i have seen blatant racism in games before, in wow there was a guild called kool kids klub who would dress up in white gowns and chase dark skinned toons around org.

    that guild got removed and i think some of the players temp banned.

    but threatening to rape someones 5 year old daughter? there is no way that should go unpunished, that player should be permanently banned from the game.

    whats next? linking child porn in chat? i feel sorry for anyone that thinks this is acceptable behavior in any mmo, even F2P.

  • sxvssxvs massillon, OHPosts: 109Member
    Originally posted by TsaboHavoc
    Originally posted by sxvs

    this type of thing goes on all over the internet and in many games, stupid/inappropriate comments and such.

    has nothing to do with the elin, who aren't children.. they are some type of immortal fairy creatures in a fantasy world..

    these same people would most likely make ridiculous statements like that in any setting.

     

    i've had someone threaten my life in warcraft because i refused to duel him, we were both orcs... is the orc to blame for insane behavior.

     

     

    take a good look on elins friend, again.. now think u can free "play " them and say anything without regulations or laws. these kind of ppl arent interested in lore or progressing for l33t lvls, they have their own agenda and the game provides it. its has a lot of fetish things.

     

    exactly, "these kind of people"... has nothing to do with the elin.

    so, we should not have any kind of cute, small characters in a game or art because there are these kind of people who say absurd things?

    i agree that the comment is ridiculous and he should be banned and possibly looked into to make sure if he has any kids or whatever but i disagree to blame it on the fact that there are elin type characters in the game.

     

     

  • AeonbladesAeonblades Home, GAPosts: 2,083Member

    Oh well, I guess some people never heard the sticks and stones addage. I've heard far worse on many games than rape jokes. This goes both ways, yea these people need to be punished for making comments about kids like that, sure they should, I support punishment for that type of stuff wholeheartedly, but if people get offended by something said on a video game by a random person they probably have some issues of their own as well.

    It's just not a big priority for a company trying to save a sinking ship to worry about what some dude in general chat.

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  • Rthuth434Rthuth434 uniondale, NYPosts: 346Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Yep, global is bad and I do wish they would take a harder line about the vulgarity and racism.

    I turn global off and /ignore those who spam Area and LFG.

    Outside of those few loudmouths the community is actually really nice.  I've met some friendly people that pugged with me for overland group quests.

    I guess there are some perverts with an agenda to be loud.  There also seems, by the reaction, some people with an axe to grind from the other side of the coin.

    same old rationlization. "some" perverts, "some" loudmouths, my ass. it's MOST of the TERA players. MOST of you are doing this shit all the time. it's completely saturated throughout the playerbase and those who do not engage in this shitty behavior are the "some", the exceptions.

    there's no vocal minority for this game, it is a collection of assholes, with a few normals sprinkled about. everyone else fled tha game after being hammered enough by the boring game design once combat fades in conjunction with being surrounded by scum.

  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Mardukk

    I'm guessing the people telling OP to not report it are just massive TERA fans, there's no other excuse.  I think the issue is more with the company's response than OP or even the idiots in global chat.  The problem is that this is a FTP game.  Banning accounts probably will not do much to stop these fools from playing.

    It was a huge, unchecked, problem BEFORE free to play.

     ^This

    It was even a problem in beta. Something about the game drew in many of the worst of the genre and many complained on the offical forums about how it was driving players away.

    A company that doesnt police the game has that affect and not it got what it deserved, a trip to F2P to try to save it.

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  • spawn12345spawn12345 MalmöPosts: 137Member Uncommon

    meh I never care what people write in games

    Only thing that bothers me is gold bots in chat

  • AeonbladesAeonblades Home, GAPosts: 2,083Member
    Originally posted by baphamet

     


    Originally posted by Aeonblades

    Originally posted by Zyzra

    Originally posted by nationalcity

    Originally posted by Zyzra Exactly.  The game is FILLED with people saying these atrocities.  Gamers with respect for other people shouldn't play this game because of the community.  Because there is no official action against this kind of hate and intolerance, every time someone spends money on TERA they are supporting racism, pedophilia, sexism and hate.  
    GMAB I don't support any of them... I think your way off....   You posting that is basically just as bad as the chat your talking about in game I mean really Pot meet Kettle.... Don't play if you don't want but don't try and say people supporting it are racists and pedo I mean really?
    Since you didn't understand, I'll say it a different way. The company and mods behind TERA are ok with racism, sexism and other hate speech because they choose not to deal with it. If a person supports that company with money, they are supporting the company's actions - so they support the continued racist and hate speech in chat. I didn't say people supporting it at racists and pedo, not sure why you thought that.   I'm not sure how my stance against such demeaning talk in a game meant for fun makes me as bad as people spouting racism, but believe that if you want.
    I just don't understand this viewpoint. Either you enjoy the companies game or you don't, paying them to play the game is not supporting racism or pedophilia lol.

     

    No company has the time or resources to deal with every troll in general chat, this is in every game, not just TERA.

     


     

    you are currently playing EQ and i guarantee that wouldn't slide in that game if it was reported.

    i have seen blatant racism in games before, in wow there was a guild called kool kids klub who would dress up in white gowns and chase dark skinned toons around org.

    that guild got removed and i think some of the players temp banned.

    but threatening to rape someones 5 year old daughter? there is no way that should go unpunished, that player should be permanently banned from the game.

    whats next? linking child porn in chat? i feel sorry for anyone that thinks this is acceptable behavior in any mmo, even F2P.

    Never said it was acceptable behavior, just said it's not worth the effort to have someone watching ever server for trolls when they will just come back anyway. Of course it shouldn't slide in any game, and it's disgusting and should be punished, but I'm not personally going to do anything about it, so why worry about it? Let someone who really cares enough try to report them.

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  • mistersalty1mistersalty1 South Windsor, CTPosts: 26Member
    Originally posted by Thorkune
    Originally posted by mistersalty1
    its words on the internet from some random person youll never meet. get over it

    Call me old fashioned and fickle, but I don't want to read sexual comments involving children. It might be just me though...

    In no way do I agree with sexual comments involving children l but getting all butt hurt about things said in an online game is pointless. Is this your first time on the internet? FIrst time playing a MMO? Sadly its what the internet is. If your skin isnt thick enough then maybe you should stop playing online game because you cannot avoid it. Kids are going to troll and say stupid things. Right click, press ignore, stop crying.

  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by Aeonblades

    Oh well, I guess some people never heard the sticks and stones addage. I've heard far worse on many games than rape jokes. This goes both ways, yea these people need to be punished for making comments about kids like that, sure they should, I support punishment for that type of stuff wholeheartedly, but if people get offended by something said on a video game by a random person they probably have some issues of their own as well.

    It's just not a big priority for a company trying to save a sinking ship to worry about what some dude in general chat.

    It's not the fools in chat that I care about.  It's the company that doesn't mind it enough to do anything about it.

    Now that I've explained it, keep your sticks and stones.

  • MardukkMardukk Posts: 1,556Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Otakun
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Otakun
     I guess I was too busy actually playing the game to notice the pointless chat. Maybe if more people were actually playing the game instead of sitting around bothering with the chat then it wouldn't be such a big deal. 

    Yeah, who needs to communicate in a multiplayer game anyways!

     

    Also, people saying to use /ignore commands are missing the point.  It isn't that every new player logging in should leave all sorts of channels and /ignore people.  It is that TERA should actively fight against the kind of hate in chat channels.  It shouldn't be OK with racism and child rape. 

    If you just ignore people and leave channels, you're saying you're pretty much OK with child rape comments in the game so long as you don't have to see it.

    You don't need global and area to play the game with others. I've done fine getting questing parties with just /say and if I need a dungeon then I use the dungeon finder. Simple as that. One last thing, do people forget that we have free speech in US. If you don't like it then ignore it but if some neck bearded basement dweller wants to make stupid comments then he should be allowed to do so without having a company get involved. If you can't deal with your own problems then that is your problem not the companies. 

    Wait what?  "Free speech" doesn't protect people in a gaming community...lol give me a break people.  The company can do what is wants to them.  Which, in this case, appears to be not much.  

     

    Jesus, I'm losing hope in the MMO community just reading through this thread.  People claiming free speech and that this is the OP's problem.  How is someone talking about raping children OP's problem?  I'm pretty sure that we can all agree that talking about this in global chat is not a super fantastic thing to do and that the company should do something.  The company in this situation, either lacks manpower to deal with it or they realize it would be a losing battle with a FTP game (the idiots can just make another account) or the company thinks this kind of thing is ok.

     

     

  • nationalcitynationalcity Decatur, MIPosts: 330Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Rthuth434
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Yep, global is bad and I do wish they would take a harder line about the vulgarity and racism.

    I turn global off and /ignore those who spam Area and LFG.

    Outside of those few loudmouths the community is actually really nice.  I've met some friendly people that pugged with me for overland group quests.

    I guess there are some perverts with an agenda to be loud.  There also seems, by the reaction, some people with an axe to grind from the other side of the coin.

    same old rationlization. "some" perverts, "some" loudmouths, my ass. it's MOST of the TERA players. MOST of you are doing this shit all the time. it's completely saturated throughout the playerbase and those who do not engage in this shitty behavior are the "some", the exceptions.

    there's no vocal minority for this game, it is a collection of assholes, with a few normals sprinkled about. everyone else fled tha game after being hammered enough by the boring game design once combat fades in conjunction with being surrounded by scum.

    Well I guess I will say the same thing to you as I said earlier Pot meet Kettle.

    I mean really you say all this in your post but your any better then the rest of the Tera community come on...

    Your using sweeping generalization's about the community as a whole.

  • OtakunOtakun New Providence, PAPosts: 864Member
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Otakun
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Otakun
     I guess I was too busy actually playing the game to notice the pointless chat. Maybe if more people were actually playing the game instead of sitting around bothering with the chat then it wouldn't be such a big deal. 

    Yeah, who needs to communicate in a multiplayer game anyways!

     

    Also, people saying to use /ignore commands are missing the point.  It isn't that every new player logging in should leave all sorts of channels and /ignore people.  It is that TERA should actively fight against the kind of hate in chat channels.  It shouldn't be OK with racism and child rape. 

    If you just ignore people and leave channels, you're saying you're pretty much OK with child rape comments in the game so long as you don't have to see it.

    You don't need global and area to play the game with others. I've done fine getting questing parties with just /say and if I need a dungeon then I use the dungeon finder. Simple as that. One last thing, do people forget that we have free speech in US. If you don't like it then ignore it but if some neck bearded basement dweller wants to make stupid comments then he should be allowed to do so without having a company get involved. If you can't deal with your own problems then that is your problem not the companies. 

    Free speech is one of the worse used excuses I see often.

    Try saying to a policeman "I'm going to kill you." and see if a free speech excuse gets you out of jail.

    If you can't tell the difference in chat within a game that you have no idea who it is with chatting with someone face to face then you really have some issues. Pretty huge difference between an angery utterence in a game and a direct threat. 

  • AeonbladesAeonblades Home, GAPosts: 2,083Member
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Aeonblades

    Oh well, I guess some people never heard the sticks and stones addage. I've heard far worse on many games than rape jokes. This goes both ways, yea these people need to be punished for making comments about kids like that, sure they should, I support punishment for that type of stuff wholeheartedly, but if people get offended by something said on a video game by a random person they probably have some issues of their own as well.

    It's just not a big priority for a company trying to save a sinking ship to worry about what some dude in general chat.

    It's not the fools in chat that I care about.  It's the company that doesn't mind it enough to do anything about it.

    Now that I've explained it, keep your sticks and stones.

    More important things than babysitting players who get upset everytime someone insults them in general chat.

     I'm really not trying to argue here, I'm just trying to help you see the companies point of view, even if you don't agree with it. And before someone comes in all 'OMG TERA FANBOI', I didnt play past the first week of release because the game itself is a bad fit for me personally, the community trolls is just another reason not to put up with it.

    I do agree with what someone else said, you are going to be hard pressed getting rid of these people in a game with Elin no matter how you police chat channels. It was just done in bad taste to begin with, really should of thought that through for the western audience.

     

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  • ThorkuneThorkune Eastern, KYPosts: 1,828Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mistersalty1
    Originally posted by Thorkune
    Originally posted by mistersalty1
    its words on the internet from some random person youll never meet. get over it

    Call me old fashioned and fickle, but I don't want to read sexual comments involving children. It might be just me though...

    In no way do I agree with sexual comments involving children l but getting all butt hurt about things said in an online game is pointless. Is this your first time on the internet? FIrst time playing a MMO? Sadly its what the internet is. If your skin isnt thick enough then maybe you should stop playing online game because you cannot avoid it. Kids are going to troll and say stupid things. Right click, press ignore, stop crying.

    I did stop crying about it...I quit playing Tera. And, I have never seen chat like Tera's in any other mmo. So, your argument that it can't be avoided doesn't hold water. In other mmo's it is small scale and those individuals can easily be ignored. But, in Tera it is usually a conversation between many like minded people and it's harder to control via ignore. So, it's just easier to quit. And, I will never get "thick skinned" enough to tolerate sexual comments about children.

  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by Aeonblades
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by Aeonblades

    Oh well, I guess some people never heard the sticks and stones addage. I've heard far worse on many games than rape jokes. This goes both ways, yea these people need to be punished for making comments about kids like that, sure they should, I support punishment for that type of stuff wholeheartedly, but if people get offended by something said on a video game by a random person they probably have some issues of their own as well.

    It's just not a big priority for a company trying to save a sinking ship to worry about what some dude in general chat.

    It's not the fools in chat that I care about.  It's the company that doesn't mind it enough to do anything about it.

    Now that I've explained it, keep your sticks and stones.

    More important things than babysitting players who get upset everytime someone insults them in general chat.

     I'm really not trying to argue here, I'm just trying to help you see the companies point of view, even if you don't agree with it. And before someone comes in all 'OMG TERA FANBOI', I didnt play past the first week of release because the game itself is a bad fit for me personally, the community trolls is just another reason not to put up with it.

    I do agree with what someone else said, you are going to be hard pressed getting rid of these people in a game with Elin no matter how you police chat channels. It was just done in bad taste to begin with, really should of thought that through for the western audience.

     

    You're right.  I don't agree with the companies point of view that raping children is OK.  Sorry to hear they have more important things to do than deal with that.

    Yes it is very hard to get rid of these people, especially in free to play.  They should at least try.

  • AeonbladesAeonblades Home, GAPosts: 2,083Member
    Originally posted by Zyzra

    You're right.  I don't agree with the companies point of view that raping children is OK.  Sorry to hear they have more important things to do than deal with that.

    Yes it is very hard to get rid of these people, especially in free to play.  They should at least try.

    They didn't endorse it so who is to say that it is okay by their standards. He probably got a warning, thats about all you are going to get for getting offended by someones words, especially on the internet.

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