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Twitch wants video brodcasting to be standard in your MMO experience.
Isturi
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Just been anounced that "Red 5 Studios that will bring real-time streaming support to" F2P MMO shooter Firefall has teamed up with Twitch in a effert to try to allow "video streaming services like Twitch become commonplace. "Video broadcasting will soon be a standard, expected piece of the gaming experience with innovative companies like Red 5 making it possible by pioneering the way it's built into games." - according to Twitch vice president of marketing Matthew DiPietro
Now I have to disagree with this guy Mathew DiPietro because I belive he is just trying to pump up the player in a greed like fashion to make players belive that future MMO's and gaming in general can not live with out some kind of video chat or live chat for that matter. It is not nessesary for PVE grinding. It is not nessesary for raids even since we used programs like Vent or Teamspeak that work just fine and to invoke live stream from twitch to try to shove this down gamers faces is wrong.
For one it will slow down your game since streaming video will demand more of your lat and bandwidth. This in turn will slow down your frame rate.
All I can see this attempt to combine Twitch and MMO's is a complete fail. Just a gimmick to make the average player spend more money on a what is spose to be a F2P game to begin with were does the madness end??
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That's what I got from it, as well.
Red 5 seems to be paving the way for Firefall to become an eSport, so it's entirely possible that they foresee a lot of live streaming in the game's future. If that's the case, it makes sense that they'd want to make some money off it since others very well will be doing so.
As to the OP's question of "Is it a good thing?" Live streaming as an added feature is a good thing. A person doesn't have to use it if they don't want to, but having it there for those that like it just adds more enjoyment or engagement to the game for them.
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TY for sharing your experience. I feel knowlage is power and by all means this kind of knowlage you gave to us by your bad experience should help those see the properganda that is behind twitch in general.
I never used xfire so I cant give any thoughts on it one way or anouther but from what little I do know it seems to be a fair program to use.
Yes yes yes. Any and all forms of discussion for a community is a good thing. The chat box during a stream is a great way to get a sense of how people are feeling about a game. It's also a fun way to share your experience with others.
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
Im sure you are right there will be some who feel it is a good thing and if it works for them and give them enjoyment great then by all means use it. My biggest concern is that they are going to try to saturate MMO gaming with Twitch and make it a standard part of the game. This to me would be a sad mistake if DEVs allow this for future or even if current titles try to incorporate Twitch. Can you imangine games like WoW or SWTOR or even GW2 incorporating twitch into the games current UI? I think many players would have a crap storm.
As someone who is relatively new to casting on Twitch, I've got to agree that it is incredibly difficult to break into viewiership. I've been streaming every day this year and I still only get like 5-10 repeate viewers who come every day. Just having that small community makes gaming a bit more fun though. It gives you something to do in downtime as you can just chat with people (thought with a small delay).
I think game companies including Twitch casting as an OPTION is a great thing for casting in general. If casting was viewed more similarly to TV, more people would keep it running in the background. Good for casters, good for gamers. It would be nice if professional gaming (sc2, lol, etc) were seen as a more legitimiate career option similar to sports. Just my thoughts.
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Maybe I'm missing something here. What would be the cause of the 'crap storm'? How would integrated support for streaming video negatively affect WOW or GW2, especially those not using it?
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
To pass time when eating? My kids, when they eat alone, they always watch some gaming video. You can't really play when you eat, right?
Secondly, they also multitask. You can play game A and watch game B at the same time.
You make the erroneous assumptions that:
a) they are not playing when they are watching, and
b) they can play when they are watching (for example, they cannot when they are eating)
Well I may of over reacted a bit but ok Ive played WoW not playing anymore but if I were and lets say the next patch Twitch was going to be intergraded in the UI ok right now it maybe be true that I would have the option to not use it regardless of it is intergraded in my solo play of WoW ok fine np but now lets say I want to raid and the raid I despertly want to go on is set up for twitch so now I have two choices not to raid and wait for some pug group to get formed and you and I both know that is not going to happen anytime soon or be force to use twitch and raid. OK now the domino effect will happen because you and I both know that it is not happening to me but to millions of other users that are not happy about being force to raid with twitch or dont raid at all. Guess what a crap storm will brew.
Vent or teamspeak work just fine as I stated in OP no need to stream a raid or whatever to take away my bandwidth my lat for stupid streaming video.
To each thier own. Hey if you like the idea of having twitch in your MMO experience then more power to you. Stream Away.
I think you're reading too much into what Twitch is or does but I'm not a raider, so maybe I'm missing it. Twitch isn't a communication app like Vent or TS. It's a streaming service. If a raid is 'set up for twitch' you appear in someone else's stream. That doesn't require anything extra on your part.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
if you are doing something else while playing a game, you arent playing the right game.
i wouldn't know about the "watching and eating part."
we eat at the dinner table and theres no pcs/tvs allowed there.
Games like WoW or GW2 or SWTOR etc take a lot of bandwidth for raiding and if you are playing on a older PC not only will your bandwidth go down but as mention your lat and frame rate with Twitch and raiding combine. This would be a huge cause for concern for me since sadly I am using a older PC to play my MMO's I have no prob at all raiding with TS or vent I am just afraid that straming video will slow down the raid even more regardless of who is using it or not.
If I am wrong then ok. This thread is about thoughts about how other players may feel about twitch and thier MMO experience.
TY for your thoughts.
Why people watch football, if they can play it?
Do you think that all those people are onyl watching the games and not playing them?
If you are a fan of a certain game, it is also nice to check how other people are playing the game. Sometimes you even learn something new. And also, livestreams are not just about watching, there's interaction, which is the key thing if you ask me.
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It's also a way to see content you may not have done yet. You get to see how others play through it and different strategies to handle it.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Considering I've watched top streamers for Starcraft/Dota/LoL... I'd say it does have a place.
But MMOs are not even a proper game, so it's a lost cause trying to stream them in 99% of cases.
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I think it will be a definite plus for some gamers, but for most, it will go unused.
I can see the use for end-game content and watching a guild/raid trying to clear something for the first time. It doesn't really need to be included with the game.
Can't imagine they will force players to use the functionality. Probably a toggle button in the settings or something like it.
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I disagree with this.
Basically what I've learned from MOBAs is that streams aren't really copied at all. Most players realize that they don't have the same type of intuition of the streamer. The same amount of time to invest. or an assortment of other things.
However what someone watching a stream will learn is how someone else plays, and how players that are deeper down the rabit hole will respond to each other. This will essentially means that in a PvPer game they learn the "worse case scenrios", and in a PvE game they'll learn the "best case scenrios". Even though they won't see those cases in their game play, it does loesly affect their planning.
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"At one point technology meant making tech that could get to the moon, now it means making tech that could get you a taxi."
Just check Towelliee, one of the top MMO streamers. Getting around 2.5k viewers per day. Or Reckful, around 9k viewers per day.
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