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Will Blizz Keep WoW and "Titan" Running Simultaneously?

fat_taddlerfat_taddler Wanaque, NJPosts: 286Member

Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.

Some would probably argue that many people would be willing to pay subs for both games so why not keep WoW running but I believe that this would greatly impact the sub numbers on both games which is certainly not in Blizz's best interest.

Based on everything I've heard / read, Blizz's plan was to keep WoW going for 12 years which seems to be falling right in line with a 2016 transition to Titan.

On top of that, there are already some in-game stories that suggest the end of Azeroth is upon us (Stranger in a Strange Land quest chain for example).

It seems that it would make sense to build a climatic end to Azeroth as a transition to Titan where a small number of survivors, having somehow escaped Azeroth prior to its demise, find themselves starting over in a completely new world.

Clearly, this is all speculative at this point but I think if we pay attention to what's happening in MoP, we may get some clues as to what Blizzard has in mind down the road.

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  • f0dell54f0dell54 Des Moines, IAPosts: 329Member
    Originally posted by fat_taddler

    Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.

     

    Yeah, that makes perfect sense! Take a game that has millions of subs and tell them you're closing down their game and they can come a new game they may not even enjoy. Logic be damned! This could be the best idea ever.

  • firelilyxfirelilyx Marietta, GAPosts: 2Member
    Egads no. With how much Blizzard loves money they will continue milking it until there's less than 10000 players :P
  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,289Member Uncommon
    As long as WoW is hugely profitable, why would they not keep it running? and with over 9 million paid subscriptions a month, it would be a dumb move to ditch them, as for Titan, who knows how many years before that game even comes close to fruition, its not like Blizzard are under pressure to release it after all. Even at this point nobody has any idea what form of game Titan will even be, it might not even be an MMO when it releases. image
  • fat_taddlerfat_taddler Wanaque, NJPosts: 286Member
    Originally posted by f0dell54
    Originally posted by fat_taddler

    Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.

     

    Yeah, that makes perfect sense! Take a game that has millions of subs and tell them you're closing down their game and they can come a new game they may not even enjoy. Logic be damned! This could be the best idea ever.

    So you believe that doubling their infrastructure and support requirements to run two massive games which could (and most likely would) cannibalize each other in terms of sales / subs is a better idea?   

     

  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    Nothing about this idea makes sense at all seeing as how some games are running with around 10,000 people playing it like Anarchy Online and the company is running other games as well.

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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member
    Originally posted by f0dell54
    Originally posted by fat_taddler

    Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.

     

    Yeah, that makes perfect sense! Take a game that has millions of subs and tell them you're closing down their game and they can come a new game they may not even enjoy. Logic be damned! This could be the best idea ever.

    /thread

     

    We don't know anything about Titan, including genre. If it turns out to be World of Starcraf-ish, they won't exactly be competing with each other. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thoroughly enjoyed Warcraft but couldn't get into Starcraft. And I know pleny of others who don't cross the High Fantasy / Sci-fi boundry.

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  • doodphacedoodphace Vancouver, BCPosts: 1,815Member
    For sure they will keep both games running. Lets not kid ourselves...an "end-of-life WoW" will still have more players than all other MMOS, save for maybe Titan itself.
  • ShadoedShadoed BirminghamPosts: 1,499Member Common
    Originally posted by fat_taddler
    Originally posted by f0dell54
    Originally posted by fat_taddler

    Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.

     

    Yeah, that makes perfect sense! Take a game that has millions of subs and tell them you're closing down their game and they can come a new game they may not even enjoy. Logic be damned! This could be the best idea ever.

    So you believe that doubling their infrastructure and support requirements to run two massive games which could (and most likely would) cannibalize each other in terms of sales / subs is a better idea?   

     

    You are assuming that they would have to double everything, why? They already have the infrastructure in place and all of the departments required to support a large scale MMO, it would require an increase in staff numbers, but i wouldn't have thought by 100% and certainly not in full time staff until they know how the two balance with each other as there may be some losses to Wow for example reducing the support requirements there vs an increase in support for Titan which would balance that without any staff increase.

    Customer support would probably be the largest increase, but when it comes to things like internal tech support, hardware support, finance, marketing etc.. there would be little need to increase what they have now. If they run the games side by side which i guess they would, they will already be looking at where they can use existing infrastructure and where they would need to add more.

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  • Tindale111Tindale111 croydonPosts: 197Member
    Everquest 1 and 2 are still going and tho they dont have same audience as wow i think they doing well enough the other thing is that wow is 9 or 10 years old and the graphics look dated now im asuming that titan will have updated graphics a lot of people still have older computers so might struggle to run the newer one nah blizzard wont kill off wow
  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member

    How long will Titan remain vaporware? This is even worse than waiting for World of Darkness by CCP with almost no new information

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  • RoxtarrRoxtarr Freeland, MI, MIPosts: 1,122Member
    Originally posted by fat_taddler
    Originally posted by f0dell54
    Originally posted by fat_taddler

    Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.

     

    Yeah, that makes perfect sense! Take a game that has millions of subs and tell them you're closing down their game and they can come a new game they may not even enjoy. Logic be damned! This could be the best idea ever.

    So you believe that doubling their infrastructure and support requirements to run two massive games which could (and most likely would) cannibalize each other in terms of sales / subs is a better idea?   

     

    All the WoW sub money is feeding Titan anyway, so you might as well make the players switch to the game they're paying for.  I kid!

    In reality, there is no reason that the WoW team would need to change anything once Titan comes out.  Who knows, maybe there will be a joint sub thing or something where when you sub to one, you get both.

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  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
     If the games are different enough no reason not to keep both open, in fact if they can get WoW players to also play and pay for Titan then its a big win for Bliz. I've heard nothing about Titan being WoW 2.0 so no reason it won't be different enough to appeal to 2 different player bases or play styles. Heck even if titan is just wow in space they can probably double their player base off old or current WoW players.
  • winterwinter El Paso, TXPosts: 2,276Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FromHell

    How long will Titan remain vaporware? This is even worse than waiting for World of Darkness by CCP with almost no new information

     i'm guessing Titan might be out sometime after the WoW movie ;)

  • aerinndisaerinndis x, SCPosts: 67Member
    There is zero chance that Blizzard will be shutting down WoW because of Titan.
  • Thomas2006Thomas2006 Millersburg, INPosts: 803Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by fat_taddler
    Originally posted by f0dell54 Originally posted by fat_taddler Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.
      Yeah, that makes perfect sense! Take a game that has millions of subs and tell them you're closing down their game and they can come a new game they may not even enjoy. Logic be damned! This could be the best idea ever.
    So you believe that doubling their infrastructure and support requirements to run two massive games which could (and most likely would) cannibalize each other in terms of sales / subs is a better idea?   

     


    You are aware that Titan is a social MMO and is in no way related to World of Warcraft. Its not even related to the Warcraft IP. So, how does closing down a successful MMO and opening up a completely new one (unrelated to each other) make any sense at all?

    How are you going to get people to move from one IP to a completely different IP?

  • zethcarnzethcarn Kentucky, KYPosts: 1,558Member
    Are you high, OP?
  • XAPKenXAPKen Northwest, INPosts: 4,912Member Uncommon

    Would Blizzard shut down WoW while it's still making money?  Not a chance.  At least I don't think so.


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  • furbansfurbans Tinbucktwo, IAPosts: 965Member

    Blizzard has already announced long ago that "Titan" will not be competeing directly against WoW.

    WoW's survivability will more be impacted by Wildstar or ESO or whatever new MMO that will be competeing directly against WoW than "Titan" from the sound of things.

  • MortisRexMortisRex Columbia, TNPosts: 348Member Common
    Originally posted by fat_taddler

    Seems like it would make the most sense from both a support and infrastructure standpoint to end-of-life WoW and come up with a way to transition the existing player base into Titan.

    LOL, that makes no sense whatsoever. You're going to shut down a profitable franchise for an unproven product? There would be no franchises if that were SOP. You don't shut down financially successful operations because you're pursuing new revenue streams, that's actually a great way to go bankrupt and lose all of your revenue streams.

  • CecropiaCecropia Posts: 3,472Member Uncommon

    Trust me when I say I'm in the know on this one; WOS (World of Starcraft) will indeed coexist alongside WOW image

    Don't believe everything Blizzy feeds ya ;)

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  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,969Member Uncommon
    Why people think Titan will be more popular than WoW is a mystery to me.
  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,506Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Cecropia

    Trust me when I say I'm in the know on this one; WOS (World of Starcraft) will indeed coexist alongside WOW image

    Don't believe everything Blizzy feeds ya ;)

    Except that those of us who really know, can tell you that you are wrong. Project Titan is all new IP.

    This you can take to the bank, I can't say anything more for obvious reasons.

  • CecropiaCecropia Posts: 3,472Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Cecropia

    Trust me when I say I'm in the know on this one; WOS (World of Starcraft) will indeed coexist alongside WOW image

    Don't believe everything Blizzy feeds ya ;)

    Except that those of us who really know, can tell you that you are wrong. Project Titan is all new IP.

    This you can take to the bank, I can't say anything more for obvious reasons.

    That is precisely why I included the second sentence in my post. Stranger things have happened, bud.

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  • endgame1endgame1 Chapel Hill, NCPosts: 84Member

    It's 2013, servers and bandwidth are extremely cheap, relatively speaking. Last time I looked through an operating expense report from Blizzard, infrastructure costs for WoW were a teeny tiny fraction of the budget, (really infinitesimal).

     

    Depending on what direction they go with Titan, and what direction they go with WoW, they may not attract the same player base, necessarily. Also, from what I've heard, Titan may be free to play and rely on revenue from things like in-game advertising.  So no reason to have to cancel your WoW sub to sub to Titan. 

     

    No way on earth they shut WoW down while it's still profitable. WoW is responsible for something like 40% of ATVI's revenue. 

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