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Diablo 3 sells over 12 million, WoW has over 9.6 million subscribers

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Aeonblades
    Who cares. They haven't had anything worth playing really since the first few months of WoW and D2. 12 million copies or not, D3 is completely dead for online play. And WoW...well let's just say things haven't worked out for people who actually want a game to play.

    LOL .. so much hate.

    D3 is still top 10 on xfire, and certainly way more people are playing it, than something like Eve. Want to be the expansion is going to sell millions?

    They are different genres, why compare D3 to EvE, why not compare it to Fifa13 or CoD.

    Because Eve was touted as the big success here.

    Let's compare it to other games. And i did say top 10 in xfire .. that is in comparison to all online games, right.

    D3 is way ahead of FIFA 13 on xfire.

    D3 is behind COD4, but ahead of COD BO2 (the newer COD) on xfire.

    In terms of sales, BO2 sold 7.4M in its first month.

    http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/black-ops-2-sales-down-14-percent-year-on-year-in-u-s/

    I think D3 sold 6M in its first week, and 10M in its first 3 months. So i guess they are comparable.

    So i guess D3, in terms of sales, and play-time, stacks up well with the best FPS franchise.

     

  • SuperNickSuperNick CambridgePosts: 460Member

    As much as I think Blizzard are money grubbers and some of their design choices are questionable, I still enjoy their games.

    I played SC2 single player to completion, I put 300 hours into D3, I've played and quit every WoW expansion.

    I've enjoyed my time with all 3, but no longer play any of them.

    I mean is it because people expect more? They expect perfection, a game that will sustain them for years and when they don't get it they rage?

    I spent full box copy for Farcry 3 and finished it in 20 hours, i'll never be playing it again. I put 300 hours into D3, which game would I say is better? They were both good and neither perfect.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    Starcraft Expansion + D3 Expansion will each sell millions... probably 10's of millions combined.

    No doubt. Because Blizz made fun games. I will be buying D3 expansion, and probably BOTH D3 & SC heart of the swarm. Heck, i enjoy SC2 single campaign very much even when i am not a big RTS fan.

     

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Hey people like britney spears, Justin beiber and black eyed peas sell shotloafs of albums
  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownPosts: 3,452Member
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Hey people like britney spears, Justin beiber and black eyed peas sell shotloafs of albums

    Don't mess with the Beibster, talent like that comes but once in a generation.

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Aeonblades
    Who cares. They haven't had anything worth playing really since the first few months of WoW and D2. 12 million copies or not, D3 is completely dead for online play. And WoW...well let's just say things haven't worked out for people who actually want a game to play.

    LOL .. so much hate.

    D3 is still top 10 on xfire, and certainly way more people are playing it, than something like Eve. Want to be the expansion is going to sell millions?

    They are different genres, why compare D3 to EvE, why not compare it to Fifa13 or CoD.

    Because Eve was touted as the big success here.

    Let's compare it to other games. And i did say top 10 in xfire .. that is in comparison to all online games, right.

    D3 is way ahead of FIFA 13 on xfire.

    D3 is behind COD4, but ahead of COD BO2 (the newer COD) on xfire.

    In terms of sales, BO2 sold 7.4M in its first month.

    http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/black-ops-2-sales-down-14-percent-year-on-year-in-u-s/

    I think D3 sold 6M in its first week, and 10M in its first 3 months. So i guess they are comparable.

    So i guess D3, in terms of sales, and play-time, stacks up well with the best FPS franchise.

    that cuts both ways

    despite D3 selling 4x as well as GW2,  GW2 has higher gameplay than D3 on Xfire

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Probably because d3 is the second worst recent "big game", after star wars.
  • NaughtyPNaughtyP Edmonton, ABPosts: 793Member

    If we are just gonna talk stats...

    The population of the earth is over 7 billion!

    So I think I win this one!

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  • PsychowPsychow SF Giants Territory, CAPosts: 1,784Member
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Hey people like britney spears, Justin beiber and black eyed peas sell shotloafs of albums

     

    Leave YOUR favorites out of this discussion please...

  • BoudewijnsBoudewijns AntwerpPosts: 133Member Uncommon
    yeah right dont forget 70% of them r goldseller/farmer accounts

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Aeonblades
    Who cares. They haven't had anything worth playing really since the first few months of WoW and D2. 12 million copies or not, D3 is completely dead for online play. And WoW...well let's just say things haven't worked out for people who actually want a game to play.

    LOL .. so much hate.

    D3 is still top 10 on xfire, and certainly way more people are playing it, than something like Eve. Want to be the expansion is going to sell millions?

    They are different genres, why compare D3 to EvE, why not compare it to Fifa13 or CoD.

    Because Eve was touted as the big success here.

    Let's compare it to other games. And i did say top 10 in xfire .. that is in comparison to all online games, right.

    D3 is way ahead of FIFA 13 on xfire.

    D3 is behind COD4, but ahead of COD BO2 (the newer COD) on xfire.

    In terms of sales, BO2 sold 7.4M in its first month.

    http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/black-ops-2-sales-down-14-percent-year-on-year-in-u-s/

    I think D3 sold 6M in its first week, and 10M in its first 3 months. So i guess they are comparable.

    So i guess D3, in terms of sales, and play-time, stacks up well with the best FPS franchise.

    that cuts both ways

    despite D3 selling 4x as well as GW2,  GW2 has higher gameplay than D3 on Xfire

    Sure .. because lots of people are playing D3 single player. And no one says GW2 is not a success. And both are MUCH higher than Eve in terms of sales and xfire numbers.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by SuperNick

    As much as I think Blizzard are money grubbers and some of their design choices are questionable, I still enjoy their games.

    I played SC2 single player to completion, I put 300 hours into D3, I've played and quit every WoW expansion.

    I've enjoyed my time with all 3, but no longer play any of them.

    I mean is it because people expect more? They expect perfection, a game that will sustain them for years and when they don't get it they rage?

    I spent full box copy for Farcry 3 and finished it in 20 hours, i'll never be playing it again. I put 300 hours into D3, which game would I say is better? They were both good and neither perfect.

    Good perspective.

    Same argument with WOW. I quit WOW last Dec but before that i played for years, and probably put in 2000 hours. So how is that not a fun game?

    Games does not have to last forever to be fun. In fact, i put much less into Dead Space, or Dishonor, or Deus Ex and these three are great games in my books.

     

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Sure .. because lots of people are playing D3 single player. And no one says GW2 is not a success. And both are MUCH higher than Eve in terms of sales and xfire numbers.

    D3 singleplay does not lower Xfire stats - single player is still online play

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Sure .. because lots of people are playing D3 single player. And no one says GW2 is not a success. And both are MUCH higher than Eve in terms of sales and xfire numbers.

    D3 singleplay does not lower Xfire stats - single player is still online play

    Single player will have less reason to use xfire because xfire is for MP functionalities. There is self-selection here.

  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser ParisPosts: 1,873Member
    Originally posted by Cod_Eye

    And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again.

     

     

     

     

    Before ranting at me, I jest.

    I can pull numbers out of my behind too but i like to deal with real information. Although, how many times have we heard this now? oh yeah every time Blizzard releases a new game. After the latest Starcraft release i read and heard similar things and then Diablo 3 broke all sale records.

    When new Blizzard game will release it will do the same yet again. When will you guys learn? Blizzard is the alpha of online gaming. I know you 'jest' but hey..it is still getting old.

    "The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
    -Jesse Schell

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  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
    Originally posted by Doogiehowser

    Blizzard is the alpha of online gaming.

    i no longer appreciate Blizzard the way i used to - but i agree w you

  • PsychowPsychow SF Giants Territory, CAPosts: 1,784Member

    So is it a forgone conclusion on these forums that subscriptions are inflated because the Eastern market players in that region  play less than those in the West? Is that what people here are saying? Do they have anythign to support that conclusion, or is it just some dufus remark like "70% are gold farmers" that keeps their hate going...

  • GaladournGaladourn AthensPosts: 1,052Member

    the question is: who cares about WOW's subscriber numbers....(apart from blizzard shareholders, that is)

  • DewmDewm Soldotna, AKPosts: 1,341Member
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Hey people like britney spears, Justin beiber and black eyed peas sell shotloafs of albums

    Don't mess with the Beibster, talent like that comes but once in a generation.

     

    Thank goodness. 

     

    Don't know if I could handle another beiber.

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  • DewmDewm Soldotna, AKPosts: 1,341Member
    Originally posted by NaughtyP

    If we are just gonna talk stats...

    The population of the earth is over 7 billion!

    So I think I win this one!

    Wish this site had a +1 button.

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  • davc123davc123 sloPosts: 371Member
    hope they lost much ppls at d3 p2p+pw2 -.-    poe is better i enjoying a lot more  +p2p and not pw2
  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser ParisPosts: 1,873Member
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Hey people like britney spears, Justin beiber and black eyed peas sell shotloafs of albums

    Is that how you feel about GW2 too? or you are just playing the usual 'your world is too mainstream' card as an exception to only Blizzard?

    "The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
    -Jesse Schell

    "Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
    -Luke McKinney

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  • NildenNilden null, NBPosts: 1,284Member Uncommon
    Just going to reply with a link that does the Blizzard and McDonalds dance.

    How to post links.

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  • DewmDewm Soldotna, AKPosts: 1,341Member
    Originally posted by Boudewijns
    yeah right dont forget 70% of them r goldseller/farmer accounts

     

     

    Never really got this arguement, I mean how could 30% of the population support 70% of the gold farmers? I mean they don't farm gold for free.

     

    And at that rate EVERY single person in WoW would have to buy (daily) what 2 gold farmers produce.... eh don't see it happening.

     

    Even if you cut it in half.. So out of the remaining 30% of the "real" player base half of them buy gold (which seems like a really large number) so 15% fo the player base is buying daily, what 4.5 farmers produce..

     

    that is a SH*T ton of gold.. and this is simple math.

     

     

     

    At BEST 20% of the population is farming gold... at BEST.

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  • ThorbrandThorbrand West Palm Beach, FLPosts: 1,198Member

    No one cares about Blizzard. Only about 1M NA play WOW and D3 pretty much showed the truth of what blizzard wants. But that is the same a people seeing what is happing in the world.

    Don't forget they are also being sold!

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