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  • korent1991korent1991 CakovecPosts: 1,390Member
    Originally posted by iamthekiller
    Originally posted by Celcius
    Originally posted by iamthekiller
    Originally posted by Celcius
    No one claims that games will "kill WoW"; these are just things people like to say when backing up an ill formed argument about a game not meeting their expectations. I personally think WoW is complete garbage and so is MoP, but hey thats my opinion. Fact is that the game is earning ArenaNet and NC Soft hand over fist and they have sold over 3million copies already, making it the fastest selling MMO to date. Take that for what you will, but I don't really see how anyone with any sense can deny the success of GW2. 

    I didn't really mention how well it did do or didn't. I know MOP sold more then 3 million copies in a week though. I think that is probably faster then GW2. Im not knocking people who like the game at all...im not saying it's unsuccessful...it's succesfull for a mediocre game for sure..a real record setter!

    An expansion is different then a game release. Saying your MMO sold 3 million copies in a week which was the first time the game did not break a previous record for sales and with an installed user base of 10 million doesn't mean anything. It was not the fastest selling MMO of all time, GW2 was and still is. Nice try though, considering you started your post off by claiming you did not mention how well it did yet still replied to me by claiming GW2's numbers were not as significant as I claim. 

    You can't state your opinion as fact and claim I cannot defend your argument with facts. You like WoW and you don't like GW2..who cares. The fact is that GW2 has sold faster then any other MMO does not change. You can claim it is mediocre all you want though. That is your opinion. Unfortunately for you they already got your money so you basically voted for the game being a winner. Thanks for your contribution towards my current and future content patches for the game I enjoy. 

    I never once stated my opinion as fact. I actually went out of my way to specifically say it was my opinion and it wasn't popular. Your attitude is quite amusing though, you come in here attacking me because you want to make sure everyone knows GW2 wasn't a failure...but I never said it was..you seem like you know deep down it's mediore but don't want to admit it to yourself.

     

    As far as MOP being different because it's an expansion...that's pretty much something you made up to rationalize your viewpoint that GW2 is the fastest selling MMO of all time when it's not. MOP is...you don't get to discount it for subjective reasons. Or can you point me in the direction of the rulebook that defines these things? Did obama sign a executive action declaring expansions for mmo's don't count as mmo release's?

     

    All that aside, if you don't care about the topic of my thread why post? Why not just go on with your life? GW2 isn't gonna magically become a good game because your white knighting it.

     

    I don't get it why people come to this forums and then look for a subforum of a game they DO NOT LIKE so they can post their opinions about something they don't like...

    If there's somehting I don't like, I usually don't waste any more time on it and I move on with my life...

    also, by trying to defend your precious WOW with those crap how it's the fastest selling (when it even didn't break a record of previous expansions) and trying to compare a newly released game with an expansion for a game that's practially a relic now is just pathetic... what, you see less and less people in WOW and it starts to itch?

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,915Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Originally posted by Distopia
     

    I don't know if it will be TESO simply because of how much resentment has formed around it's direction, which many view as a departure away from the TES franchise. We'll see though, I too haven't been keeping up with many of the in development MMO's, I know it won't be the repop that does it heh.

    'Resentment' is a forum thing, if a game is good people will buy it play it, Youtube to the rescue ultimately.

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  • VarthanderVarthander BarcelonaPosts: 471Member

    At this point should be clear to know that no game will kill WoW, and if you ask me im happy to see that Gw2 its no exception because the so claimed "throne" WoW stands for its something that i will like to remain that way, between many other things because i dont want too see Gw2 ( or any mmo at all ) being converted to the most hated and disputed mmo of all time, its not really worth it if you ask me.

    Also Gw2 has lived to its hype for a lot of people and its still kicking ass for much gamers today. Because not all games need all those Millions of people to succeed or even be remembered,

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  • lathaanlathaan viennaPosts: 475Member Uncommon
    gw2 is by far the best game out there atm, and it just started ;)
  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    to me GW2 is the best themepark MMO on the market right now.. it has an amazing world that feels more alive than any other MMO world i can think of. It has many shortcomings and many things i hope are changed/fixed but as a whole it is a great game.. I tried going back to pretty much every other themepark out there since they went f2p, b2p, or offered trials and none to me can even come close to compare to the overall feel GW2 gives me. Hoping other games in the future take the "living world" concept and step it up even further but things like static lifeless zones stick out to me the most and really turn me off to these games, which is a huge reason GW2 takes the top spot for me..

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  • Bad.dogBad.dog Belleville, ONPosts: 1,108Member
    Originally posted by akiira69
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by akiira69
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by akiira69

    3 mill is impressive while you have the goliath WOW at 10 Mill? you need your reasoning checked. Untill David(GW2) topples Goliath(which it never will) it will never be the fastest Growing MMO. Oh and justst for the Record the number 1 sales for MMO's for Amazon is Tera.

     

    I'm sorry... I seem to have misplaced the data... how quickly did WoW hit 3 million again? Or SWToR? Tera perhaps... when did they hit 3 million?

     

    Fastest growing. That means growing (or grew) the fastest.

     

     

    Where's that 40K Kills screenshot from WvW by the way? Still waiting to see that...

    Wrath of the Lich King sold 2.8 million copies in it's first 24 hours of availability. This makes it the fastest selling computer game of all time, beating the record set by the previous World of Warcraft expansion The Burning Crusade, which sold 2.4 million within its first 24 hours.

    Expansion, yes. That's special. How about WoW itself? How long did it take WoW to reach 3 million? An expansion isn't growth. That's selling to the choir, to mutilate a phrase. WoW sold those copies to it's alleged 10 million subscribers, but how long did it take WoW to grow to that 3 million mark originally?

    I love this your floundering for excuses every time i prove you wrong.

    Where are all the folks that played WOW now?....what’s the excuse for a game that had 12 million subscribers now showing numbers in the 2.5 million range?

  • kihakujinkihakujin KingstonPosts: 2Member

    Firstly lemme thank you guys for making me lol in class :)

    Why is everything always a comparison to WoW? Every mmorpg discussion ultimately bring that game in as the benchmark that a completely different game isnt meeting upto or a similar game is being pitted against, with alot of my observed instances involving the words: "WoW clone!"

    A WoW killer - would be a game that drains WoW dry wont it? Makes it so servers merge due to lack of players? Always have diehards so the most forseeable WoW killer is the dev team of WoW.

    The facts are - in 5 months GW2 did better than ALL other mmorpgs. They came from a player base of 0 to 3mil. Whereas no-one else did that. Previous posts have clearly made that clear. With that stated, the expansion argument is not a fair assessment, as an expansion means there are a playerbase. I can bring ym friends into a game i play because i like it and if an expansion comes out... it shows the devs are furthering the community and my friends should come in cause this game wont be dying anytime soon - or thats what I say when expansions are out.

    iamthekiller you said that you are stating opinion, then let the arguments rest. Your objectivity is compromised because of your bias against GW2. Likewise, fond memories and boredom could have made your return to WoW more enjoyable than it should have (stating possibilities). Point is though that GW2 isnt your kettle of fish, and after your initial post going along with the argument until you lost your point was unnecessary

    Going back to the original post - I doubt anything other than boredom, or curiosity about ane xpansion can bring you back to Tyria.

    Open world PvP...must have...must kill..must see blood

  • Oracle_FefeOracle_Fefe N/A, NYPosts: 221Member

    PvE wise, yeah its actually a pretty nice game and they delivered. Graphics and combat were improved upon and they did their own takes here and there.

     

    PvP wise..I believe that it failed to hit the mark and continued to crash into everything. Balance is subjective, promises haven't been kept so far and it can be a bit hectic in the sPvP forums.

  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member
    Originally posted by fs23otm

    GW2 is still the best MMO on the market... and will remain that way until possibly ESO. 

     

    not even close. It's only best in some categories : marketing,  monetization and hype

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  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member

    To be honest I wasent even following this game at all so the hype for this game rubbed off on me, I even posted a somewhat hate post back in the beta weekends.

    I played the game as you would in any themepark  and didn't knew really what I was doing.

    I gave it a second chance and really dove into the game mechanics and got hooked.

    I'm still here.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    Originally posted by FromHell
    Originally posted by fs23otm

    GW2 is still the best MMO on the market... and will remain that way until possibly ESO. 

     

    not even close. It's only best in some categories : marketing,  monetization and hype

     

    Best game is always a opinion, but on these boards It's more important to write " IMO, or opinion or IMHO" before writing your feelings  or your will get shot down by straw people who loves to point out things like you.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Belleville, ONPosts: 1,108Member
    Originally posted by FromHell
    Originally posted by fs23otm

    GW2 is still the best MMO on the market... and will remain that way until possibly ESO. 

     

    not even close. It's only best in some categories : marketing,  monetization and hype

    When hater's spend more time and energy posting in GW2 forums then moving on and playing some other MMO I think GW2 wins ,,,perhaps this is both good marketing and hype ?

  • FlawSGIFlawSGI Woodstock, GAPosts: 1,379Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dimnikar
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    Originally posted by akiira69
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by akiira69
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by akiira69

    3 mill is impressive while you have the goliath WOW at 10 Mill? you need your reasoning checked. Untill David(GW2) topples Goliath(which it never will) it will never be the fastest Growing MMO. Oh and justst for the Record the number 1 sales for MMO's for Amazon is Tera.

     

    I'm sorry... I seem to have misplaced the data... how quickly did WoW hit 3 million again? Or SWToR? Tera perhaps... when did they hit 3 million?

     

    Fastest growing. That means growing (or grew) the fastest.

     

     

    Where's that 40K Kills screenshot from WvW by the way? Still waiting to see that...

    Wrath of the Lich King sold 2.8 million copies in it's first 24 hours of availability. This makes it the fastest selling computer game of all time, beating the record set by the previous World of Warcraft expansion The Burning Crusade, which sold 2.4 million within its first 24 hours.

    Expansion, yes. That's special. How about WoW itself? How long did it take WoW to reach 3 million? An expansion isn't growth. That's selling to the choir, to mutilate a phrase. WoW sold those copies to it's alleged 10 million subscribers, but how long did it take WoW to grow to that 3 million mark originally?

    I love this your floundering for excuses every time i prove you wrong.

    How did you prove him wrong? GW2 grew to 3+ millions accounts much faster than WoW did back in 2004 at its release. Volkon is actually right, and you are wrong. Part of why you are wrong is that you compare apples and oranges, aka vanilla games and expansions of well established games.

    Oh and yes, where's that 40k kills in WvW thingy? Now that it's been mentionned, I'm eager to see it too.

    If WoW hadn't created the market for this type of game, GW2 wouldn't sell jack squat.

    It's amazing how many of you dare to compare a game releasing today to a game released nearly 10 years ago. Do you even know how much the market grew since then?

    Think of it this way: if the market for a product is 10 people and you sell to 3 of those in 2005, but it's 100 people in 2012 and you sell to 5... Which sold faster?

     

    Lots of ways to look at this. Only one is correct.

    I'd like to also add that WoW also raised the bar so you can also look at it that way as well so numbers that would have seemed like a huge success 10 years ago would be seen as a failure today. You were correct when you stated there were lots of ways to look at it and no, not only one is correct because there are always going to be context.

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  • BattlerockBattlerock Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,393Member

    GW2 would need a complete overhaul for it to become my primary game. Right now that does not look like it will ever happen so long as all these people that think GW2 is a success or is making money now that release has come and gone continue to overhype the game.

     

    World of Warcraft will remain the over all best mmo rpg on the market. MoP at first sounded stupid to me. I logged in anyhow and found out that it was actually great, and I really shouldn't be suprised. As much as people hate on wow as a whole or compares xpacs and says expac y was better than expac z and so on ....... The expacs have all been great and the game continues to be great.

    It's really that simple.

     

    It's greatness I would contribute most to it's versitility and ever changing environment.

    --- It's missing player created content and housing

    --- It's missing dynamic events to some extent. The wpvp in wow is actually a very dynamic event, no it does not offer in game rewards so much, but it does offer very memorable moments in time that Horde and Alliance throw in each others faces in game, on the forums, you tube,  facebook, it's everywhere............ It's the players that make it possible too.

     

    Don't let other people ruin your fun, Wow is still great after all this time and is sitll head and shoulders above the rest. You can look and look and look, but you won't find a better one size fits alll game, it just doesn't exist.

  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    Originally posted by KingofHartz

    GW2 would need a complete overhaul for it to become my primary game. Right now that does not look like it will ever happen so long as all these people that think GW2 is a success or is making money now that release has come and gone continue to overhype the game.

     

    World of Warcraft will remain the over all best mmo rpg on the market. MoP at first sounded stupid to me. I logged in anyhow and found out that it was actually great, and I really shouldn't be suprised. As much as people hate on wow as a whole or compares xpacs and says expac y was better than expac z and so on ....... The expacs have all been great and the game continues to be great.

    It's really that simple.

     

    It's greatness I would contribute most to it's versitility and ever changing environment.

    --- It's missing player created content and housing

    --- It's missing dynamic events to some extent. The wpvp in wow is actually a very dynamic event, no it does not offer in game rewards so much, but it does offer very memorable moments in time that Horde and Alliance throw in each others faces in game, on the forums, you tube,  facebook, it's everywhere............ It's the players that make it possible too.

     

    Don't let other people ruin your fun, Wow is still great after all this time and is sitll head and shoulders above the rest. You can look and look and look, but you won't find a better one size fits alll game, it just doesn't exist.

     

    So you want WoW 2.0.

    got it.

     

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • BattlerockBattlerock Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,393Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz

    GW2 would need a complete overhaul for it to become my primary game. Right now that does not look like it will ever happen so long as all these people that think GW2 is a success or is making money now that release has come and gone continue to overhype the game.

     

    World of Warcraft will remain the over all best mmo rpg on the market. MoP at first sounded stupid to me. I logged in anyhow and found out that it was actually great, and I really shouldn't be suprised. As much as people hate on wow as a whole or compares xpacs and says expac y was better than expac z and so on ....... The expacs have all been great and the game continues to be great.

    It's really that simple.

     

    It's greatness I would contribute most to it's versitility and ever changing environment.

    --- It's missing player created content and housing

    --- It's missing dynamic events to some extent. The wpvp in wow is actually a very dynamic event, no it does not offer in game rewards so much, but it does offer very memorable moments in time that Horde and Alliance throw in each others faces in game, on the forums, you tube,  facebook, it's everywhere............ It's the players that make it possible too.

     

    Don't let other people ruin your fun, Wow is still great after all this time and is sitll head and shoulders above the rest. You can look and look and look, but you won't find a better one size fits alll game, it just doesn't exist.

     

    So you want WoW 2.0.

    got it.

    That wouldn't be a bad thing at all in the land of Tyria, but all we have now is a massive zerg fest and limited hotbar options. BORRRRRING!!!!!!!!

  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    Originally posted by KingofHartz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz

    GW2 would need a complete overhaul for it to become my primary game. Right now that does not look like it will ever happen so long as all these people that think GW2 is a success or is making money now that release has come and gone continue to overhype the game.

     

    World of Warcraft will remain the over all best mmo rpg on the market. MoP at first sounded stupid to me. I logged in anyhow and found out that it was actually great, and I really shouldn't be suprised. As much as people hate on wow as a whole or compares xpacs and says expac y was better than expac z and so on ....... The expacs have all been great and the game continues to be great.

    It's really that simple.

     

    It's greatness I would contribute most to it's versitility and ever changing environment.

    --- It's missing player created content and housing

    --- It's missing dynamic events to some extent. The wpvp in wow is actually a very dynamic event, no it does not offer in game rewards so much, but it does offer very memorable moments in time that Horde and Alliance throw in each others faces in game, on the forums, you tube,  facebook, it's everywhere............ It's the players that make it possible too.

     

    Don't let other people ruin your fun, Wow is still great after all this time and is sitll head and shoulders above the rest. You can look and look and look, but you won't find a better one size fits alll game, it just doesn't exist.

     

    So you want WoW 2.0.

    got it.

    That wouldn't be a bad thing at all in the land of Tyria, but all we have now is a massive zerg fest and limited hotbar options. BORRRRRING!!!!!!!!

     

    Great to see that you have a game you love, but why post your thoughts here in GW2 forums when you don't want to play GW2 you want to play WoW 2.0?

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • itgrowlsitgrowls newport news, VAPosts: 2,951Member

    I was excited had the most fun the first month and a half, then the nerfs to loot and to the engineering class began and it's been nothing but more bugs and disappointments so far. I dunno who took over the wheel post launch but Nov 15th left alot to be desired. They should never have turned 180 from their design plans.

    and when it comes to things like DR, why is it companies don't have someone on staff who keeps up with mmo design history and how the playerbase receives those design flaws? DR would have never been implemented if they were really gamers with a knowledge of the history of mmo's because they would have remembered the large number of games that were cancelled because of devs implementing DR and it affecting players not bots.

    And don't get me started on the fail design of "dungeon-only focus in a game about DE's" because that's a whole other pile of steaming fail entirely.

    Don't misunderstand they had the best design at the beginning, what failed was their management post launch.

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Purutzil

    Well at the very least the developers don't sound so 'cocky' and 'we know better then you' tone as they did right after launch so I'm guessing (hoping) they were humbled. 

     

    As for the game? Eh I'm not the best judge, I feel like its highly over-rated but considering how over he top the fan bois are the 'highly' part would probably not exist if it was another game without such over the top fanbois behind it. Its doing okay I suppose, nothing amazing. In some ways it might hurt since rather then promoting great F2P options a lot of Eastern games have been pushing (Aion or Tera as recent ones) its going to promote more box sales with the same type of cash shop those games have or worst, specially considering Secret world's shift did so good as well.

     

    Yeah i know, somewhat off topic but truthfully I just feel the game itself didn't do much of 'changing' anything outside of making more focus on the concept of "B2P with cash shop" which can be a good AND bad thing for the consumer. Good that we don't have to maybe pay for a subscription, but bad that a cash shop will typically rake in a lot more cash from our pockets.

    Welp, I thought that the cash shop complaining was done, but I forgot about you.  lol.  There's nothing bad about the cash shop.  You don't need to spend any money for anything outside of the box.  If you're impatient and/or you want to support the company, you can spend money, otherwise there's no reason to break out your wallet to remain competitive or access "hidden" content like practically every DLC based Steam game does these days, but I don't see anyone bickering about.

    The cash shop doesn't have a "bad" side.  "Great F2P" options in Tera?  I don't see it.  You have to spend real money... there's no way to earn CS currency in-game like there is in GW2.

    How is that "great"?  More to the point, how is it better? 

    You're still on your crusade, I see.

  • BattlerockBattlerock Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,393Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz

    GW2 would need a complete overhaul for it to become my primary game. Right now that does not look like it will ever happen so long as all these people that think GW2 is a success or is making money now that release has come and gone continue to overhype the game.

     

    World of Warcraft will remain the over all best mmo rpg on the market. MoP at first sounded stupid to me. I logged in anyhow and found out that it was actually great, and I really shouldn't be suprised. As much as people hate on wow as a whole or compares xpacs and says expac y was better than expac z and so on ....... The expacs have all been great and the game continues to be great.

    It's really that simple.

     

    It's greatness I would contribute most to it's versitility and ever changing environment.

    --- It's missing player created content and housing

    --- It's missing dynamic events to some extent. The wpvp in wow is actually a very dynamic event, no it does not offer in game rewards so much, but it does offer very memorable moments in time that Horde and Alliance throw in each others faces in game, on the forums, you tube,  facebook, it's everywhere............ It's the players that make it possible too.

     

    Don't let other people ruin your fun, Wow is still great after all this time and is sitll head and shoulders above the rest. You can look and look and look, but you won't find a better one size fits alll game, it just doesn't exist.

     

    So you want WoW 2.0.

    got it.

    That wouldn't be a bad thing at all in the land of Tyria, but all we have now is a massive zerg fest and limited hotbar options. BORRRRRING!!!!!!!!

     

    Great to see that you have a game you love, but why post your thoughts here in GW2 forums when you don't want to play GW2 you want to play WoW 2.0?

     

    There is wow bashing all throughout this thread. I figured I would throw out my two cents since I have played both.

    It's not wow2.0 that I would be after but it would be better than what currently is.

    I think GW2 could be fixed

    - add better healing

    - add about 12 more hotbar keys and open up the entire book of skills for use

    - remove most if not all cooldowns - make the game more a  nuke fest than a zerg fest, but ad in warrior like defensive cooldowns so you have a chance of living through a nuke

    - remove weapon swapping and give everyone a passive swiftness cooldown so we are not equipping weapons just for swiftness - what a huge waste

    - talents may remain as they are but at least you can talilor them for your one primary weapon which you can do now but grudgenly

    - add mounts or some faster form of travel - why? Well because this is a video game and it's fighting. A fighting video game should enable you to be very aggressive. As this game is right now, the long run back once you die makes your play style alot more passive than it should be and that is the fundamental problem with the entire game. I play as a warrior, I have some defensive cooldowns that make my invulnerable. When they are up I play aggressive just like I should be able to all the time, when they are down, I am running back from the dead or running back to my zerg group, where I will wait for them to come off cool down. I am playing agressively when I can, however most of them time, I am playing passively and so is everyone else. The game needs to become more of an agressive combate style game. I want to be emotionally angry when I am playing, that's my immersion. Right now, all that is broken because the run back is way to long and there is a downed mechanic.

    - get rid of the downed mechanic I have said this from day one.

    These things I have mentioned are not quiet a complete overhaul, but it's big enough of an overhaul to get me to come back and enjoy the game rather than just give it a second chance.

     

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member

    That sure sounds like WoW 2.0 to me.. you want them to effectively remove most of the things that make GW2 different.

    EDIT: I do kind of agree about the mounts though, even if it's just for an aesthetic.  I don't care if they make me faster.

  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    Originally posted by KingofHartz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz

    GW2 would need a complete overhaul for it to become my primary game. Right now that does not look like it will ever happen so long as all these people that think GW2 is a success or is making money now that release has come and gone continue to overhype the game.

     

    World of Warcraft will remain the over all best mmo rpg on the market. MoP at first sounded stupid to me. I logged in anyhow and found out that it was actually great, and I really shouldn't be suprised. As much as people hate on wow as a whole or compares xpacs and says expac y was better than expac z and so on ....... The expacs have all been great and the game continues to be great.

    It's really that simple.

     

    It's greatness I would contribute most to it's versitility and ever changing environment.

    --- It's missing player created content and housing

    --- It's missing dynamic events to some extent. The wpvp in wow is actually a very dynamic event, no it does not offer in game rewards so much, but it does offer very memorable moments in time that Horde and Alliance throw in each others faces in game, on the forums, you tube,  facebook, it's everywhere............ It's the players that make it possible too.

     

    Don't let other people ruin your fun, Wow is still great after all this time and is sitll head and shoulders above the rest. You can look and look and look, but you won't find a better one size fits alll game, it just doesn't exist.

     

    So you want WoW 2.0.

    got it.

    That wouldn't be a bad thing at all in the land of Tyria, but all we have now is a massive zerg fest and limited hotbar options. BORRRRRING!!!!!!!!

     

    Great to see that you have a game you love, but why post your thoughts here in GW2 forums when you don't want to play GW2 you want to play WoW 2.0?

     

    There is wow bashing all throughout this thread. I figured I would throw out my two cents since I have played both.

    It's not wow2.0 that I would be after but it would be better than what currently is.

    I think GW2 could be fixed

    - add better healing

    - add about 12 more hotbar keys and open up the entire book of skills for use

    - remove most if not all cooldowns - make the game more a  nuke fest than a zerg fest, but ad in warrior like defensive cooldowns so you have a chance of living through a nuke

    - remove weapon swapping and give everyone a passive swiftness cooldown so we are not equipping weapons just for swiftness - what a huge waste

    - talents may remain as they are but at least you can talilor them for your one primary weapon which you can do now but grudgenly

    - add mounts or some faster form of travel - why? Well because this is a video game and it's fighting. A fighting video game should enable you to be very aggressive. As this game is right now, the long run back once you die makes your play style alot more passive than it should be and that is the fundamental problem with the entire game. I play as a warrior, I have some defensive cooldowns that make my invulnerable. When they are up I play aggressive just like I should be able to all the time, when they are down, I am running back from the dead or running back to my zerg group, where I will wait for them to come off cool down. I am playing agressively when I can, however most of them time, I am playing passively and so is everyone else. The game needs to become more of an agressive combate style game. I want to be emotionally angry when I am playing, that's my immersion. Right now, all that is broken because the run back is way to long and there is a downed mechanic.

    - get rid of the downed mechanic I have said this from day one.

    These things I have mentioned are not quiet a complete overhaul, but it's big enough of an overhaul to get me to come back and enjoy the game rather than just give it a second chance.

     

    WoW bashing?

    Yet again you asking for WoW 2.0.

    Why can't we have games that is not like you are used to?

    I really don't get it, why do you want a clone when your fav game is right there?

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • BattlerockBattlerock Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,393Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by KingofHartz

    GW2 would need a complete overhaul for it to become my primary game. Right now that does not look like it will ever happen so long as all these people that think GW2 is a success or is making money now that release has come and gone continue to overhype the game.

     

    World of Warcraft will remain the over all best mmo rpg on the market. MoP at first sounded stupid to me. I logged in anyhow and found out that it was actually great, and I really shouldn't be suprised. As much as people hate on wow as a whole or compares xpacs and says expac y was better than expac z and so on ....... The expacs have all been great and the game continues to be great.

    It's really that simple.

     

    It's greatness I would contribute most to it's versitility and ever changing environment.

    --- It's missing player created content and housing

    --- It's missing dynamic events to some extent. The wpvp in wow is actually a very dynamic event, no it does not offer in game rewards so much, but it does offer very memorable moments in time that Horde and Alliance throw in each others faces in game, on the forums, you tube,  facebook, it's everywhere............ It's the players that make it possible too.

     

    Don't let other people ruin your fun, Wow is still great after all this time and is sitll head and shoulders above the rest. You can look and look and look, but you won't find a better one size fits alll game, it just doesn't exist.

     

    So you want WoW 2.0.

    got it.

    That wouldn't be a bad thing at all in the land of Tyria, but all we have now is a massive zerg fest and limited hotbar options. BORRRRRING!!!!!!!!

     

    Great to see that you have a game you love, but why post your thoughts here in GW2 forums when you don't want to play GW2 you want to play WoW 2.0?

     

    There is wow bashing all throughout this thread. I figured I would throw out my two cents since I have played both.

    It's not wow2.0 that I would be after but it would be better than what currently is.

    I think GW2 could be fixed

    - add better healing

    - add about 12 more hotbar keys and open up the entire book of skills for use

    - remove most if not all cooldowns - make the game more a  nuke fest than a zerg fest, but ad in warrior like defensive cooldowns so you have a chance of living through a nuke

    - remove weapon swapping and give everyone a passive swiftness cooldown so we are not equipping weapons just for swiftness - what a huge waste

    - talents may remain as they are but at least you can talilor them for your one primary weapon which you can do now but grudgenly

    - add mounts or some faster form of travel - why? Well because this is a video game and it's fighting. A fighting video game should enable you to be very aggressive. As this game is right now, the long run back once you die makes your play style alot more passive than it should be and that is the fundamental problem with the entire game. I play as a warrior, I have some defensive cooldowns that make my invulnerable. When they are up I play aggressive just like I should be able to all the time, when they are down, I am running back from the dead or running back to my zerg group, where I will wait for them to come off cool down. I am playing agressively when I can, however most of them time, I am playing passively and so is everyone else. The game needs to become more of an agressive combate style game. I want to be emotionally angry when I am playing, that's my immersion. Right now, all that is broken because the run back is way to long and there is a downed mechanic.

    - get rid of the downed mechanic I have said this from day one.

    These things I have mentioned are not quiet a complete overhaul, but it's big enough of an overhaul to get me to come back and enjoy the game rather than just give it a second chance.

     

    WoW bashing?

    Yet again you asking for WoW 2.0.

    Why can't we have games that is not like you are used to?

    I really don't get it, why do you want a clone when your fav game is right there?

    Lol Wow has much more than what I have asked for. This does not even touch the surface of wow2.0 all I have mentioned is what it would take to fix GW2 and make it fun. It you want to play a passive combat game then have it it, I think it sucks and so do alot of others. Want to make it better? Then open up the floodgates to aggressive game play

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Webster, MAPosts: 4,813Member

    I'll just address the OP's title and avoid a lot of the mess lol. 

     

    GW2: Hyped at first? What about now?

     

    Answer: It's one of the most played and most talked about MMO's out there still. It's influencing future MMO's and some current MMO's already. It's rated high by professional reviews and players. Servers are still packed. 

    So... fact is, while the game was hyped a good deal it's seemed to have lived up to it for the most part. Like any game there are some that don't like it for one reason or another, but they seem to be in the minority so it doesn't really matter. 

    The game does have room for improvement, but those will come and be in the spirit of the game rather than trying to turn it into something it's not (Such as WoW2.0). 

     

    Hope this helped clear things up for you OP. 

  • shingoukiehshingoukieh Fayetteville, NCPosts: 125Member

    Honestly i been full exotic for like...2 months or so now...and dont feel like grinding FOTM. So now they have laurels..and to get them u gotta do dailies. the dailies changed and now they feel more of a hassle instead of natural. In all honesty the game feels like i already beat it. Playin a mmorpg just for kicks is not what i like..either i like story progression or gear progression. I feel complete with my character and honestly i feel money has no value in this game...i have 200g and nothing to really buy..unless i wanna get a legendary i can spend some...but since legendaries are only like a costume skin what is the point of that??

    All in all it was a pretty good game at first. and i did however like the events and actually seeing people around killing stuff etc..was epic...but now i have no reason to play...for fun? Perhaps for fun i suppose but to be honest there are alot of other games i could be having more fun with. for progression? no real progression to be had. Currently im playing Eve online and its a fun game....with real progression. Sometimes boring but even while offline i still get progression. Im putting all my eggs into final fantasy 14 arr....hopefully that game has progression and immersion...As for GW2..i have no reason to play besides just messing around for an hour or so...and to be honest im looking for an mmorpg i can really sink my teeth into and if i have 1 hour or 8 hours to play i can play that entire duration and not feel bored and enjoy it. With guild wars 2 after i grind a dungeon and then go to the world and just finish off low level zones im pretty much pooped...

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