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Do today's gamer's even play MMO's for PVE anymore or is it all about ganking and pvp now?

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  • dave6660dave6660 New York, NYPosts: 2,543Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by Vorthanion

    So now you are changing the argument so that it can only be over RPG style MMOs?  Limiting the style doesn't change the principle of the argument, you are still amply represented for such a small audience.  Did you ever play Warhammer Online?  The whole game funneled you into PvP in order to progress and end game was nothing other than instance runs and PvP, but I guess you're going to change the guidelines of the argument no matter what I say.  I was inducted into the Mechwarrior Online beta and they called it an MMO, I don't give a crap if you don't agree.  MMOs are MMOs whether they are RPGs, FPSs or RTSs and you aren't convincing me or anyone else that PvP is being shafted in their representation in the genre.  Whether it is forced or not, just about every single MMO has it as an option.

    I believe you think I am Dave6660 from your reply.

    Yeah but I think he's mad at you.  image

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
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  • dave6660dave6660 New York, NYPosts: 2,543Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    While I disagree with the plate armor analogy because for that to work plate armor would still have to be worn on the body, I do agree with the 5 year span.

    It may not represent the entire MMO market, but it does represent the type of games that are being produced.

    I do not limit to MMORPG, but consider all MMO.

    I'm going to wear plate armor to Comic-Con this year :)

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
    -- Herman Melville

  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownPosts: 3,452Member
    Originally posted by dave6660
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by Vorthanion

    So now you are changing the argument so that it can only be over RPG style MMOs?  Limiting the style doesn't change the principle of the argument, you are still amply represented for such a small audience.  Did you ever play Warhammer Online?  The whole game funneled you into PvP in order to progress and end game was nothing other than instance runs and PvP, but I guess you're going to change the guidelines of the argument no matter what I say.  I was inducted into the Mechwarrior Online beta and they called it an MMO, I don't give a crap if you don't agree.  MMOs are MMOs whether they are RPGs, FPSs or RTSs and you aren't convincing me or anyone else that PvP is being shafted in their representation in the genre.  Whether it is forced or not, just about every single MMO has it as an option.

    I believe you think I am Dave6660 from your reply.

    Yeah but I think he's mad at you.  image

    I feel ganked

  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,314Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by dave6660
    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    While I disagree with the plate armor analogy because for that to work plate armor would still have to be worn on the body, I do agree with the 5 year span.

    It may not represent the entire MMO market, but it does represent the type of games that are being produced.

    I do not limit to MMORPG, but consider all MMO.

    I'm going to wear plate armor to Comic-Con this year :)

    edited to indicate warfare :)

    Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by ikarrian
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    for me I won't play a mmo that doesn't have robust pvp endgame. I like some aspects if pve like crafting and exploring, even small scale dungeons.

    But I hate hate hate being forced to raid to progress. Raiding sucks, raiding isn't fun, raiding is 2nd job - you have to turn up at a fixed time and deal with a whole mess of "office politics"

    Good post, And i think this is how many of us older gamers feel. We certainly dont have time for the silly raids (Atleast most of us) 

     

    Isn't that what LFD/LFR is for? No more commitment, and politics. Click a button and you have a group. Just join with a few friends and have fun.

     

  • Cephus404Cephus404 Redlands, CAPosts: 3,675Member
    Originally posted by dave6660
    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    While I disagree with the plate armor analogy because for that to work plate armor would still have to be worn on the body, I do agree with the 5 year span.

    It may not represent the entire MMO market, but it does represent the type of games that are being produced.

    I do not limit to MMORPG, but consider all MMO.

    I'm going to wear plate armor to Comic-Con this year :)

    Gah, I don't go to Comicon anymore, too crowded, even though I get in for free.  Now, I'm more of a Wondercon kind of guy, already have my tickets for this year.  No, not wearing plate armor.

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  • vadess40vadess40 Toronto, ONPosts: 38Member
    I am PVE all the way and wouldn't show my face in a pvp server even if someone paid me to. Honestly, I've found that if the trolls and griefers are going to hang out anywhere, it's going to be in pvp areas. And I don't troll, nor do I like being trolled so I hang out in areas where my job is to "kill the pc" literally and stay there.
  • IsturiIsturi Phoenix, AZPosts: 1,509Member
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by Icewhite
    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    I think it's sad that 200 people argued what the OP presented without checking to see if it was factual or if it even made logical sense.

    Now that's unfair. A fair number just showed up to add a snark to the general rabblerabble.

    These is "GroupX the Problem?" threads always turn out so well.

    Good point. It definitely does have some decent entertainment value.

    Then the purpose of the thread is complete it was ment for good entertainment value. After all is that what we are gaming for is entertainment?

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  • Angier2758Angier2758 Mt. Prospect, ILPosts: 1,011Member
    Originally posted by Vonatar

    The poll is coming out pretty much as expected. As has been said, pvpers are like all vocal minorities - you think there are a lot more of them than there actually are.

     

    Also I think in this era of lazy devs and money-hungry suits, companies have worked out that pvp is the cheapest way to achieve longevity in a game. No need to design tons of content if you can have people pvping in the same area over and over....

     The poll is biased keep in mind... its like asking "Is Obama a good president?" on the huffington post.

    How many recent games have open world ganking mixed with PVE content anyway?  People on WoW complain about getting ganked on a PVP server.... seems like a silly issue in reality.  PVP IMO is just more interesting.

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