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  • MadimorgaMadimorga Atlanta, GAPosts: 1,892Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Mar you can allways click the button on the top of the screen and buy your gear, takes abou 30 secs, obviously that's not 'bis' as you put it but as players can't put agony on you then you are good to go. You problem is that you think that gear beyond exotic matters , everyone who plays wvw knows this..

    Stay focused people, I'm all about the best in slot.  

     

    BiS is what I want to be available without a deadly boring grind or months on end of playing catchup through dailies.

     

    I do not care about nor believe the statements by other players that it doesn't matter because in WvW I assure you there are situations every day where it does.  So either they need to equalize the gear for WvW and then let people do whatever for their PVE gear or they need to make this gear obtainable through WvW and other means at the same rate as it is available to fractal grinders/mat buyers/people who use their wallets to buy mats.

     

    That is my opinion.  Yours may differ.  But you can't argue me out of it because the simple fact is, BiS gear isn't available without that dungeon grind unless you're willing to remain half a year or so behind the dungeon grinders.  Maybe that means nothing to you, but for me it's a deal breaker.  No more money of mine for Anet.

     

     

    this is no longer true as of the last patch.. so its no longer a fact at all.. also why would you need to give them any more money to begin with?

    How is it not true?  If I do my daily every day I get one piece of gear a month.  Did they change it to something reasonable?  If so I apologize, I didn't realize.

     

    Also, as far as money goes, I would have bought more character slots and expansions.  

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    I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

    ~Albert Einstein

  • OnomasOnomas Rock Hill, SCPosts: 1,128Member Uncommon

    who says grinding is a bad thing? why does everyone want to rush to max level in every new game?  then quit a week later due to lack of content. 

    and what is the difference between not wanting to take your time, see the game, explore, and pacing yourself to avoid the big bad "grind" only to hiy end game and be forcer to grind tokens, pvp gear, etc... you are still grinding...........

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Mar you can allways click the button on the top of the screen and buy your gear, takes abou 30 secs, obviously that's not 'bis' as you put it but as players can't put agony on you then you are good to go. You problem is that you think that gear beyond exotic matters , everyone who plays wvw knows this..

    Stay focused people, I'm all about the best in slot.  

     

    BiS is what I want to be available without a deadly boring grind or months on end of playing catchup through dailies.

     

    I do not care about nor believe the statements by other players that it doesn't matter because in WvW I assure you there are situations every day where it does.  So either they need to equalize the gear for WvW and then let people do whatever for their PVE gear or they need to make this gear obtainable through WvW and other means at the same rate as it is available to fractal grinders/mat buyers/people who use their wallets to buy mats.

     

    That is my opinion.  Yours may differ.  But you can't argue me out of it because the simple fact is, BiS gear isn't available without that dungeon grind unless you're willing to remain half a year or so behind the dungeon grinders.  Maybe that means nothing to you, but for me it's a deal breaker.  No more money of mine for Anet.

     

     

    this is no longer true as of the last patch.. so its no longer a fact at all.. also why would you need to give them any more money to begin with?

    How is it not true?  If I do my daily every day I get one piece of gear a month.  Did they change it to something reasonable?  If so I apologize, I didn't realize.

     

    Also, as far as money goes, I would have bought more character slots and expansions.  

    you have a monthy as well.. but overall the point is you no longer have to sit and just to fractals to get the gear just need more time.. but you are still stuck in the you need BiS to be very effective in WvW and that is just BS...

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Atlanta, GAPosts: 1,892Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Mar you can allways click the button on the top of the screen and buy your gear, takes abou 30 secs, obviously that's not 'bis' as you put it but as players can't put agony on you then you are good to go. You problem is that you think that gear beyond exotic matters , everyone who plays wvw knows this..

    Stay focused people, I'm all about the best in slot.  

     

    BiS is what I want to be available without a deadly boring grind or months on end of playing catchup through dailies.

     

    I do not care about nor believe the statements by other players that it doesn't matter because in WvW I assure you there are situations every day where it does.  So either they need to equalize the gear for WvW and then let people do whatever for their PVE gear or they need to make this gear obtainable through WvW and other means at the same rate as it is available to fractal grinders/mat buyers/people who use their wallets to buy mats.

     

    That is my opinion.  Yours may differ.  But you can't argue me out of it because the simple fact is, BiS gear isn't available without that dungeon grind unless you're willing to remain half a year or so behind the dungeon grinders.  Maybe that means nothing to you, but for me it's a deal breaker.  No more money of mine for Anet.

     

     

    this is no longer true as of the last patch.. so its no longer a fact at all.. also why would you need to give them any more money to begin with?

    How is it not true?  If I do my daily every day I get one piece of gear a month.  Did they change it to something reasonable?  If so I apologize, I didn't realize.

     

    Also, as far as money goes, I would have bought more character slots and expansions.  

    you have a monthy as well.. but overall the point is you no longer have to sit and just to fractals to get the gear just need more time.. but you are still stuck in the you need BiS to be very effective in WvW and that is just BS...

     

    The monthly generally has fractals as I recall.  I rarely do dungeons and never when I feel forced to.  You are welcome to your opinion on BiS.  I will continue to strive for the most level playing field possible in my PvP.  I also don't like fighting undergeared and underleveled players by the way.

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    ~Albert Einstein

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon
    Lol next it will be a demand for dmg meters and the ability to buy legendaries with tokens. I call bs, there's no way someone who plays wvw cares about gear beyond exotic.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Atlanta, GAPosts: 1,892Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Lol next it will be a demand for dmg meters and the ability to buy legendaries with tokens. I call bs, there's no way someone who plays wvw cares about gear beyond exotic.

    Oh really?  That's why as soon as fractals released major WvW guilds were offering to run their players through them for that gear?

     

     

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    I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

    ~Albert Einstein

  • PrenhoPrenho AracajuPosts: 298Member
    Carebears have reached a whole new level, now they just want to see the message: "You won Bro!" after creating the character.
  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Mar you can allways click the button on the top of the screen and buy your gear, takes abou 30 secs, obviously that's not 'bis' as you put it but as players can't put agony on you then you are good to go. You problem is that you think that gear beyond exotic matters , everyone who plays wvw knows this..

    Stay focused people, I'm all about the best in slot.  

     

    BiS is what I want to be available without a deadly boring grind or months on end of playing catchup through dailies.

     

    I do not care about nor believe the statements by other players that it doesn't matter because in WvW I assure you there are situations every day where it does.  So either they need to equalize the gear for WvW and then let people do whatever for their PVE gear or they need to make this gear obtainable through WvW and other means at the same rate as it is available to fractal grinders/mat buyers/people who use their wallets to buy mats.

     

    That is my opinion.  Yours may differ.  But you can't argue me out of it because the simple fact is, BiS gear isn't available without that dungeon grind unless you're willing to remain half a year or so behind the dungeon grinders.  Maybe that means nothing to you, but for me it's a deal breaker.  No more money of mine for Anet.

     

     

    this is no longer true as of the last patch.. so its no longer a fact at all.. also why would you need to give them any more money to begin with?

    How is it not true?  If I do my daily every day I get one piece of gear a month.  Did they change it to something reasonable?  If so I apologize, I didn't realize.

     

    Also, as far as money goes, I would have bought more character slots and expansions.  

    you have a monthy as well.. but overall the point is you no longer have to sit and just to fractals to get the gear just need more time.. but you are still stuck in the you need BiS to be very effective in WvW and that is just BS...

     

    The monthly generally has fractals as I recall.  I rarely do dungeons and never when I feel forced to.  You are welcome to your opinion on BiS.  I will continue to strive for the most level playing field possible in my PvP.  I also don't like fighting undergeared and underleveled players by the way.

    well considering now most people in WvW have exotic gear you are on the MOST even playing field with a full set of exotic

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon
    No he needs the shiny new gear he saw with agony reduction on it for wvw

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Atlanta, GAPosts: 1,892Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Mar you can allways click the button on the top of the screen and buy your gear, takes abou 30 secs, obviously that's not 'bis' as you put it but as players can't put agony on you then you are good to go. You problem is that you think that gear beyond exotic matters , everyone who plays wvw knows this..

    Stay focused people, I'm all about the best in slot.  

     

    BiS is what I want to be available without a deadly boring grind or months on end of playing catchup through dailies.

     

    I do not care about nor believe the statements by other players that it doesn't matter because in WvW I assure you there are situations every day where it does.  So either they need to equalize the gear for WvW and then let people do whatever for their PVE gear or they need to make this gear obtainable through WvW and other means at the same rate as it is available to fractal grinders/mat buyers/people who use their wallets to buy mats.

     

    That is my opinion.  Yours may differ.  But you can't argue me out of it because the simple fact is, BiS gear isn't available without that dungeon grind unless you're willing to remain half a year or so behind the dungeon grinders.  Maybe that means nothing to you, but for me it's a deal breaker.  No more money of mine for Anet.

     

     

    this is no longer true as of the last patch.. so its no longer a fact at all.. also why would you need to give them any more money to begin with?

    How is it not true?  If I do my daily every day I get one piece of gear a month.  Did they change it to something reasonable?  If so I apologize, I didn't realize.

     

    Also, as far as money goes, I would have bought more character slots and expansions.  

    you have a monthy as well.. but overall the point is you no longer have to sit and just to fractals to get the gear just need more time.. but you are still stuck in the you need BiS to be very effective in WvW and that is just BS...

     

    The monthly generally has fractals as I recall.  I rarely do dungeons and never when I feel forced to.  You are welcome to your opinion on BiS.  I will continue to strive for the most level playing field possible in my PvP.  I also don't like fighting undergeared and underleveled players by the way.

    well considering now most people in WvW have exotic gear you are on the MOST even playing field with a full set of exotic

    I'll have to take your word for it, I quit when Ascended gear hit.  I don't like game devs that don't keep their promises.  I thought maybe this new Laurel system would correct that, but no.

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    I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

    ~Albert Einstein

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Madimorga
     

    I'll have to take your word for it, I quit when Ascended gear hit.  I don't like game devs that don't keep their promises.  I thought maybe this new Laurel system would correct that, but no.

    so you didn't even stick around to see it really has little effect on the game as a whole? and WvW as a whole either? seems odd to me must not of liked the game much to begin with which is fine.. hope you find something but i wouldn't get your hopes up of finding any large scale seige warfare like this with such a small gear disparity...

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon
    It's in your head in afraid sry, ascended in wvw is irrelevant, maybe in a 1 on 1 arena or even spvp but not wvw mass battles, you realise people with ascended are I. Your side too...

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Atlanta, GAPosts: 1,892Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
     

    I'll have to take your word for it, I quit when Ascended gear hit.  I don't like game devs that don't keep their promises.  I thought maybe this new Laurel system would correct that, but no.

    so you didn't even stick around to see it really has little effect on the game as a whole? and WvW as a whole either? seems odd to me must not of liked the game much to begin with which is fine.. hope you find something but i wouldn't get your hopes up of finding any large scale seige warfare like this with such a small gear disparity...

    People did the gear math.  The stat difference added up to far more than anyone is admitting to in this thread.  That was enough for me.

     

    Thank you for a civil discussion, however.  I don't have much in the way of hopes either, sadly.  Pretty much given up on MMOs. Glad for you if you still enjoy GW2!

     

     

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    I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

    ~Albert Einstein

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Madimorga
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Madimorga
     

    I'll have to take your word for it, I quit when Ascended gear hit.  I don't like game devs that don't keep their promises.  I thought maybe this new Laurel system would correct that, but no.

    so you didn't even stick around to see it really has little effect on the game as a whole? and WvW as a whole either? seems odd to me must not of liked the game much to begin with which is fine.. hope you find something but i wouldn't get your hopes up of finding any large scale seige warfare like this with such a small gear disparity...

    People did the gear math.  The stat difference added up to far more than anyone is admitting to in this thread.  That was enough for me.

     

    Thank you for a civil discussion, however.  I don't have much in the way of hopes either, sadly.  Pretty much given up on MMOs. Glad for you if you still enjoy GW2!

     

     

    stat calculations don't work in a game with active dodging and LoS as they would in a game like WoW.. it really doesn't work like that in a game like this.. if you can show me in game people dominating because they have ascended gear then sure.. i have yet to see it. To me it just feels people making a witch hunt over something that isn't an issue in real world(game world) situations.. if you seen the movie moneyball think that shows a good point especially the near the  very end when it comes to just statistics...

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • itgrowlsitgrowls newport news, VAPosts: 2,951Member

    Sorry Aerowyn Eyelolled and the rest, but that's no longer the case. The first month you could play how you wanted and not have anything stand in your way.

    Like to craft, sure you can craft until you reach max level and then you're stuck having to run a single dungeon for any kind of drop to make anything or relying on a double RNG system for their bags (the only viable means other then FoTM of getting T6 mats).

    Like to explore (a commonly pve only function in every other game out there) sure you can explore get up to as max as you can then be forced into a gank fest where players are allowed to finish the areas you need to get to, make seige equipment and prevent you from finishing. Or if you liked what you used to find in hidden chests all around Tyria, those days are gone.

    Like to PVE? Sure you can pve all you want to until you reach level 80 and every drop in open world that's worth something is nerfed including the meta events, the dragon battles, the veterans/champions so you get nothing for time spent cept karma which is now useless with the new gear that requires dailies, and since all focus is not on the single dungeon you need ascended gear to resist agony for the only part of the game they really are putting an effort into. Have we seen a single meta that was not temporary for a holiday since launch? Nope.

    I'd suggest people stay far away from this game until management can take their heads out of their butts and get back to the manifesto and remove the problems making this game extremely stingy, full of holes, where they allow griefing so long as it gets people to pay them.

     

    You all know my history in defending this title, I suggest you look at the entire picture of how the economy is, how the devs have failed to fix the items requested, how they've focused only on keeping players with new temporary content as a distraction rather then fixing the glaring problems with this game and how this will ultimately be self defeating as more and more people leave the game. 

    Think about it, if they can push someone with my history of defending this title away imagine what's wrong with their management department.

     

    Keep Diablo III in mind when you take a look at this title.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by itgrowls

    Sorry Aerowyn Eyelolled and the rest, but that's no longer the case. The first month you could play how you wanted and not have anything stand in your way.

    Like to craft, sure you can craft until you reach max level and then you're stuck having to run a single dungeon for any kind of drop to make anything or relying on a double RNG system for their bags (the only viable means other then FoTM of getting T6 mats).

    Like to explore (a commonly pve only function in every other game out there) sure you can explore get up to as max as you can then be forced into a gank fest where players are allowed to finish the areas you need to get to, make seige equipment and prevent you from finishing. Or if you liked what you used to find in hidden chests all around Tyria, those days are gone.

    Like to PVE? Sure you can pve all you want to until you reach level 80 and every drop in open world that's worth something is nerfed including the meta events, the dragon battles, the veterans/champions so you get nothing for time spent cept karma which is now useless with the new gear that requires dailies, and since all focus is not on the single dungeon you need ascended gear to resist agony for the only part of the game they really are putting an effort into. Have we seen a single meta that was not temporary for a holiday since launch? Nope.

    I'd suggest people stay far away from this game until management can take their heads out of their butts and get back to the manifesto and remove the problems making this game extremely stingy, full of holes, where they allow griefing so long as it gets people to pay them.

     

    You all know my history in defending this title, I suggest you look at the entire picture of how the economy is, how the devs have failed to fix the items requested, how they've focused only on keeping players with new temporary content as a distraction rather then fixing the glaring problems with this game and how this will ultimately be self defeating as more and more people leave the game. 

    Think about it, if they can push someone with my history of defending this title away imagine what's wrong with their management department.

     

    Keep Diablo III in mind when you take a look at this title.

    have you played since the ascended gear was put in? and specifically since most recent patch? they adjusted drops in many areas.. also not sure what you are talking about on the chest thing as completing the jumping puzzles i got chest from at launch i still get chests from now. As a whole the game plays the same as it always has and really have not noticed much change at all in that regard.. no sure why you are seeing it differn't... actually overall i feel more rewarded now for just playing the game than ever before(especially since last patch)

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • DaezAsterDaezAster new york, NYPosts: 803Member
    Only big grind imo is for legendaries. Ascended items are pretty easy to get before you will actually need them in fotm. I love fractals so I have no complaints in that department. The new events for january seem to be getting people back out in the world and I'm glad there evolving and learning as apposed to sticking to some dreamers gameplan(aka manifesto). I still give anet kudos and though I have plenty of other games to play still spend the most time in tyria...
  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon

     

    EDIT: Block is a nice feature I should utilize more often

     

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    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

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  • MagnetiaMagnetia SydneyPosts: 1,029Member Uncommon

    Do I require the best gear to do the hardest content? No, no I don't

    They said you wouldn't need to grind to be effective and this is completely true.

    There is still grind however and it is genuinely aesthetic despite the almost insignifigant stat bonuses. I can do all the content in greens already, I don't need to grind.

    Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?

  • IsawaIsawa Middle 0 Nowhere, ORPosts: 1,051Member
    If I can craft the gear stats I want, then I craft all of my gear. This option is much cheaper. Since you can't craft everything, then you can obtain your pow vit tough (for example) from karma and dungeons, wvw too. I've got a handful of 80s and cleared 4k points the other day - so I know what I'm talking about. I am not interested in legendaries because that is the real grind for shiny gear, stats are no better atm. Ascended gear has a somewhat of a grind, unless you are lucky and get rings from fotm lvl 10 dailies a bunch. With the new update, all you have to do is play the game and you should complete dailies and be rewarded for an eventual ascended. Everyone is at the same lvl here, because it's not like you can repeat dailies and get ahead.
  • fundayzfundayz Chatown, ONPosts: 463Member
    Originally posted by Madimorga

    That would be true if Exotic were still best in slot.  It isn't.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but you having +50 stats at lv80 does nothing to improve your factions chance of winning. WvW relies A LOT more on communication and tactics than it does on stats or even individual player skill.

    Anyone that complains about Ascended gear being more powerful is just looking for an excuse to blame their failures on.

    "Oh if I had had Ascended I would never have failed that boss encounter"

    "Well the whole enemy faction has Ascended gear, of COURSE we would lose"

     

     

    Originally posted by Magnetia

    There is still grind however and it is genuinely aesthetic despite the almost insignifigant stat bonuses. I can do all the content in greens already, I don't need to grind.

    This. Anyone talking about Best In Slot in GW2 has no clue whatsoever. Stats are a non-factor once you have Rare quality items or higher for 95% of content. That other 5% just requires exotics which are darn easy to get.

     

  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock N/A, VAPosts: 593Member Uncommon

    I was really enjoying the game until I was decked out in all Exotics.  I know there are Ascended pieces, but I'm not in a rush nor do I plan on grinding a legendary weapon. 

     

    I realize now I miss the gear progression..and character progression past this point.  As I can't easliy acquire better gear..i really don't feel like I have something to work toward.

     

    A little bored now with it.

  • fundayzfundayz Chatown, ONPosts: 463Member
    Originally posted by NomadMorlock

    I was really enjoying the game until I was decked out in all Exotics.  I know there are Ascended pieces, but I'm not in a rush nor do I plan on grinding a legendary weapon. 

     I realize now I miss the gear progression..and character progression past this point.  As I can't easliy acquire better gear..i really don't feel like I have something to work toward.

     A little bored now with it.

    That's why Ascended gear was added. You already feel de-motivated by the grind to Ascended gear, imagine how you would feel if you only had Legendaries to go after now?

    In addition, that's why Anet is adding systems like the Laurels, in order to facilitate that grind or at the least lower the entry barrier.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by fundayz
    Originally posted by NomadMorlock

    I was really enjoying the game until I was decked out in all Exotics.  I know there are Ascended pieces, but I'm not in a rush nor do I plan on grinding a legendary weapon. 

     I realize now I miss the gear progression..and character progression past this point.  As I can't easliy acquire better gear..i really don't feel like I have something to work toward.

     A little bored now with it.

    That's why Ascended gear was added. You already feel de-motivated by the grind to Ascended gear, imagine how you would feel if you only had Legendaries to go after now?

    In addition, that's why Anet is adding systems like the Laurels, in order to facilitate that grind or at the least lower the entry barrier.

    Laurels does help a lot imho.. next step and something i REALLY hope goes in is some sort of skill progression... if it were me i'd revamp the elite skill system and make elites obtainable by very hard encounters throughout the world.. then add new weapon skills all that you would unlock in a similar way and once unlocked you could mix and match that unlocked skill with your current weapon skill set like how the utility skills work... thinks this would be a huge boost for people who feel they don't have enough skill progression in the game... or enough variety in weapon skills

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • KingPinoyKingPinoy Concord, CAPosts: 55Member
    Really? Anotehr "Why gw2 is not fun" thread?
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