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Turning Player Characters into NPC when logged out: Is this a popular idea?

MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,258Member Uncommon

Is this a popular idea in the community, to turn player characters into NPC when they log out. They could be controlled by the main computer the developers use, to entice action and create events such as faction warfare events. When the player logs in, the NPC could have a recall animation or something back to the original log out spot.

could make the game world continue to feel alive and active when player population is low.

And could be used to promote faction war or something to generate faction vs faction (or as somebody in another thread calls it, RvE).

 

Whats your feelings about this?

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  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,296Member Uncommon
    You could (can?) do this in everquest, by buying a trade bag you could leave your toon in the bazaar when you log out, with items in it for sale..  in Eve online also, you can't dock Titans etc, so when you log out, you need to be parked in a very secure location.. in most themepark mmo's though, you can imagine what it would look like if peoples toons hung around once they logged out, all those lifeless bods just standing around, would look pretty creepy. image
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,258Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Phry
    You could (can?) do this in everquest, by buying a trade bag you could leave your toon in the bazaar when you log out, with items in it for sale..  in Eve online also, you can't dock Titans etc, so when you log out, you need to be parked in a very secure location.. in most themepark mmo's though, you can imagine what it would look like if peoples toons hung around once they logged out, all those lifeless bods just standing around, would look pretty creepy. image

    Well thats what I mean, they wouldnt be standing around. they would be doing things. the main computer could send a group of player NPC to come together to form a army and attack a faction city, calling players of that faction to defend.

    RvE like that.

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    and leave my toon there for hackers to exploit?
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,680Member Uncommon
    It's a cute novelty. You can see it in action in Age of Wushu.

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  • VyethVyeth Fayetteville, NCPosts: 1,459Member

    It's a great idea.. It's content.. But I think they should take it a step further..

    Have the Offline player have AI that fights based on statistics taken during play.. Like how often a skill is used and items and such..

    This could make offline players turn mobs in their own right, combined with randomly generated dungeons you have yourself cycled content right there..

    Even if people play a game and never come back, at least the game would have content generated by their abscence for those who do log in to play..

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member

    its a cool idea.

    I like the idea of combining this with an eve like skill progression system.

    e.g. you log out while next to an archery range you improve your archery skills while off line, you log out while next to your stall you have a shop for people to buy stuff from.

  • MisatoTremorMisatoTremor HamburgPosts: 62Member Uncommon

    This actually was part of a concept MMO in making back where I studied.

    In theory there where no difference in mobs, npcs or pcs. You just would take control over "your" character when logging in. But last I know this part wasn't anywhere near ready.

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  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common
    Don't really see a use for it. You can use regular NPCs to fill the world and likely you could make them more lively.

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  • Cephus404Cephus404 Redlands, CAPosts: 3,675Member
    I really don't see the difference between using PCs and NPCs for this, it's really all the same.  What is gained by using a PC body with an NPC mind?

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  • stealthbrstealthbr BrasiliaPosts: 1,053Member
    I just hate it when I see a player roaming around, I try talking to him only to find out he's offline. I don't find the feature all that necessary or useful. I seriously don't understand what's so bad about using actual NPC's.
  • NitthNitth AustraliaPosts: 3,684Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    and leave my toon there for hackers to exploit?

    If your gona get hacked, It doesn't matter if your logged on or off...

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  • AutemOxAutemOx Fullerton, CAPosts: 1,704Member

    I think this would be excellent for player housing.  I would love to leave my character hanging around his house and around my guilds city to protect the city if it is attacked.  It would be necessary for our NPC player characters to wander around a bit, maybe have some dialog (that we choose?) when clicked on.  It would suck if they just turn into pieces of still furniture or something :-/.

    As far as those games go that allow toons to sit in cities selling stuff...  That is terrible!  There should just be an auction house or player shops as part of player housing.

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  • OrtwigOrtwig Cambridge, MAPosts: 1,159Member Uncommon
    I think it would be something that would keep people logging back in -- "what happened while I was away?"  Love the idea of a little catch up video or something. Be great if you could select the sort of activies you prefer doing while logged.
  • JemcrystalJemcrystal Champaign, ILPosts: 1,558Member Uncommon
    And here I thought I originated that idea.  Back to the drawing board.

  • ice-vortexice-vortex Xenia, OHPosts: 951Member
    I would like it as long as I get to designate exactly where and what it is doing while I am logged off. Something like this would be good for defending a guild castle or town in a PVP game.
  • XAPKenXAPKen Northwest, INPosts: 4,940Member Uncommon

    Reminds me of the movie The 13th Floor.  When logged into the simulation a player occupies an NPCs body, when logged out the NPC regains themselves.

     


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  • NovusodNovusod Lakewood, NJPosts: 892Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by wormywyrm

    I think this would be excellent for player housing.  I would love to leave my character hanging around his house and around my guilds city to protect the city if it is attacked.  It would be necessary for our NPC player characters to wander around a bit, maybe have some dialog (that we choose?) when clicked on.  It would suck if they just turn into pieces of still furniture or something :-/.

    As far as those games go that allow toons to sit in cities selling stuff...  That is terrible!  There should just be an auction house or player shops as part of player housing.

    This is why I support it. Logged off players remaining in game to protect player housing and halls 24/7 is the next step in making a persistant world. Making long term goals that need to be protected 24/7 is ultimate sandbox concept.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,223Member Uncommon

    In Lineage you could have a player store while you were online.  NCSoft offered an improved version in Aion.

    It would be cool if you could set up your character to have useful in game actions while you were logged out.  Take the store concept from Lineage and Aion and blend it with offline leveling like in EVE and some other skill based games.  Your avatar would remain in the world.

    If you're training weapons, crafting, or another skill type that is what your character would be doing while you were offline.  If you wanted to sell stuff have your character setup a shop where you could have a WTS and WTB tabs.  There would be no global or central search.  Online players would actually have to visit shops.

    This would help keep the world feeling populated.  It would offer offline advancement, but you would have to choose between skill progress or financial progress.  That would let you devote your active online time to adventuring or roleplaying or getting setup for your next offline session.

     

  • LeegOfChldrnLeegOfChldrn Jcakson, MSPosts: 364Member
    Originally posted by Quirhid
    Don't really see a use for it. You can use regular NPCs to fill the world and likely you could make them more lively.

    This.

    To be honest, I am actually quite surprised that so many here like the idea.

     

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  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownPosts: 3,452Member
    It's happening right now in AoW. PCs turn to NPCs and even take jobs, last time I logged in I was in a mine working as a miner. Another time I logged in to find I had been kidnapped by a Player whilst offline.
  • LauraFrostLauraFrost New York, NYPosts: 95Member

     

    I was thinking that players can turn their characters into NPCs in cities mainly as a side "game" or another dimesion or progression.

     

    For instance; you can develope your characters career by working for a city when you logout of the game. Your character can be a Guard, Vendor or anything and their jobs actually matter and affect the city.

     

    When you get back to the game you get coin based on how many hours you worked and let's limit a character ability to work for, say, 6 hours real time then they have to rest.

     

    You set your character to clean the city (since your resume is not that impressive, you start as a janitor) you log out. You login tomorrow (after 10 hours) you find your character resting/sleeping but with 10 silver coins from working 6 hours and a paper with a report of how well your character did. Maybe a promotion would happen after a few weeks?

     

     

  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,396Member Uncommon
    It's a nice idea, but not by itself. It needs some kind of a function, like kidnapping in AoW.
  • imaginaimagina AmpsinPosts: 104Member

    Terrible idea no one should ever come with, making cities overcrowded areas with thousands of players that will surely make your computer stutter and your graphic card smell like grilled pork, not to mention the server capacity and bandwith allways used at it's max potential, oh god the lag and the daily maintenance killing the game...

     

    Idiots.

  • spookydomspookydom BristolPosts: 1,782Member Uncommon
    Playing AoW at the moment and liking this feature a lot. Helps a lot with immersion for me. I like the idea of my monk having to sweep up the temple and do other menial chores while I am off line so I don't have to. Sucks to be him :)

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