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  • SereneBlueSereneBlue Dallas, TXPosts: 32Member
    The $200 beta level was designed so as to make playing a drow exceedingly rare. If it had been priced at $60 there would be plenty of people who would pay that to do that. PWI don't want lots of people running around playing as drow. The $200 is designed to keep a very rare race being just that - exceedingly rare.
  • azzamasinazzamasin Butler, OHPosts: 3,066Member Uncommon
    Plopping $200 first thing tomorrow.  I have never purchased any sort of Founder box, Collector Edition or Lifetime subscription but I am so positive that NWO is going to be that game, I want to insure they know I support their business.  Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

    image

  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorPosts: 1,112Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SereneBlue
    The $200 beta level was designed so as to make playing a drow exceedingly rare. If it had been priced at $60 there would be plenty of people who would pay that to do that. PWI don't want lots of people running around playing as drow. The $200 is designed to keep a very rare race being just that - exceedingly rare.

    Ah no flat out wrong.

     

    Everyone will have access to the drow race.  What the 200$ deal  does is unlock an extra drow related background (when creating your character) that will give you a unique drow renegade racial skill.  You will essential be able to choose between the regular drow racial skills or the drow renegeade racial skill if you bought the 200$ pack ofc.

     

    Dunno how many skill there will be But I am guessing the racial skill are very limited in number. 

     

    That said anyone will be able to make a drow regardless of whether they bought any founders pack, at worst you will be able to unlock the race via the cash shop.

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  • redcap036redcap036 AdelaidePosts: 1,230Member

    A few questions; 

    Q) what is the, " Moonstone Mask Tavern" about and why do I need VIP acess to it?

    Q) Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta, why would I need this?

     it's only open beta, surly I would want Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Opening day, maybe it's a typo?

    thanks for any answers.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,636Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Plopping $200 first thing tomorrow.  I have never purchased any sort of Founder box, Collector Edition or Lifetime subscription but I am so positive that NWO is going to be that game, I want to insure they know I support their business.  Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

     

    If so, well done. image

     

    If not... dude.   image

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorPosts: 1,112Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Plopping $200 first thing tomorrow.  I have never purchased any sort of Founder box, Collector Edition or Lifetime subscription but I am so positive that NWO is going to be that game, I want to insure they know I support their business.  Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

     

    If so, well done. image

     

    If not... dude.   image

    Ha that was what I was thinking lol

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  • sylum69sylum69 toronto, ONPosts: 97Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Plopping $200 first thing tomorrow.  I have never purchased any sort of Founder box, Collector Edition or Lifetime subscription but I am so positive that NWO is going to be that game, I want to insure they know I support their business.  Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

     

    If so, well done. image

     

    If not... dude.   image

    ^ This...

     
    If this is for real, I highly recommend doing a little research (if you haven't already) before you drop your money. If afterwards you feel like this is right for you, then, 'to each their own', good sir.
  • azzamasinazzamasin Butler, OHPosts: 3,066Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MikeB
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Originally posted by Asm0deus

    Way to expensive for founders packs... what is this new BS where companies make us pay to supposedly beta test?

    You're really just paying for early access, guaranteed beta time, and a few perks.  If you can wait, might as well!  It'll be F2P after all.

    I can understand a 60$ founder pack. It's kind of like buying a ps3 game or buying the client if you will but 200$ is just retarded

    The $200 pack is obviously not meant for everyone, which is why there are three tiers to the program. I'm not sure why people react this way every time a new game announces a pack like this. Think back to any MMO you've ever played, didn't you know that 'one guy' who always played? Even when you took a break for six months and came back? He'd still be there happily playing like it was the first month of launch.

    That's the player who will be interested in the top-tier pack. It's not like PWE (or any other game offering this sort of thing) is only offering a single high priced tier.  No one's forcing you to buy the thing. The fact of the matter is that game development costs real money and being able to guarantee some sort of upfront revenue is pretty attractive, especially when you're giving away the game for free. I think offering excited and dedicated fans some additional value in exchange for an upfront cost can be a real win-win for both parties involved when done well.

    Have at it if you want to criticize the actual content:value ratio of this particular pack (or any other), but I think the kneejerk scoffing at the price of these high-tier packs and $150 Collector Editions is honestly a bit silly.

    Exactly Bill.

     

    As a fan of ALL things RA Salvatore, Drizzt, D&D, and Action Combat with Dungeon Delving (plus the Foundry)  I intend to show PWE & Cryptic my support with this pack.  I have disposable income so it's not that big of deal for me to spend money on things I like.  Glad PWE and Cryptic is offereing this for "us fans".

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

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  • daemondaemon TimisoaraPosts: 680Member

    paying for stuff thats worthless in 1 week after launch.

    head start to beta.. this was actually funny.

    smells like bacon to me :)

  • grapevinegrapevine PeterboroughPosts: 1,927Member
    Originally posted by SereneBlue
    The $200 beta level was designed so as to make playing a drow exceedingly rare. If it had been priced at $60 there would be plenty of people who would pay that to do that. PWI don't want lots of people running around playing as drow. The $200 is designed to keep a very rare race being just that - exceedingly rare.

     

    Cryptic don't have a good record for keeping anything rare, or "unique".   Historically they've put most things from such packs on the cash shop not that long after launch.  I believe the only thing they haven't is the Borg player race.

     

    Unique, etc, to Cryptic means for a very short period.

     

    I'd personnally not touch any of these packs, after what they did with STO/CO LTS items.

  • Ambros123Ambros123 Neverneverland, TNPosts: 877Member
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Plopping $200 first thing tomorrow.  I have never purchased any sort of Founder box, Collector Edition or Lifetime subscription but I am so positive that NWO is going to be that game, I want to insure they know I support their business.  Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Uhhhh huh.... just like SWTOR, TSW, AoC, and evey game that offered a lifetime sub also thought that their game was THE game of the second coming?

  • LatronusLatronus Lexington Park, MDPosts: 692Member
    Originally posted by redcap036

    A few questions; 

    Q) what is the, " Moonstone Mask Tavern" about and why do I need VIP acess to it?

    Q) Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta, why would I need this?

     it's only open beta, surly I would want Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Opening day, maybe it's a typo?

    thanks for any answers.

    1.  I'm gonna assume it works like the VIP area in SWTOR did.  Your account gets flagged and you get to go in there and socialize.  There may even be a special gera merchant that will allow VIPs to buy special skins, but that's just a guess.

    2.  Not sure but you may be right.

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  • LatronusLatronus Lexington Park, MDPosts: 692Member
    Originally posted by Ambros123
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Plopping $200 first thing tomorrow.  I have never purchased any sort of Founder box, Collector Edition or Lifetime subscription but I am so positive that NWO is going to be that game, I want to insure they know I support their business.  Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Uhhhh huh.... just like SWTOR, TSW, AoC, and evey game that offered a lifetime sub also thought that their game was THE game of the second coming?

    Well, just for the record, there was no lifetime sub in SWTOR.  I think 6 months was max, but you are pretty spot on with the intent.

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  • Ambros123Ambros123 Neverneverland, TNPosts: 877Member
    Threads are being locked, posts being deleted, dmg control is being done, "stay tuned for more info details" are all happening in the official forums.  Sounds like whosever bright ideal with the news created a big ol' shit storm.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorPosts: 1,112Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Latronus
    Originally posted by redcap036

    A few questions; 

    Q) what is the, " Moonstone Mask Tavern" about and why do I need VIP acess to it?

    Q) Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta, why would I need this?

     it's only open beta, surly I would want Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Opening day, maybe it's a typo?

    thanks for any answers.

    1.  I'm gonna assume it works like the VIP area in SWTOR did.  Your account gets flagged and you get to go in there and socialize.  There may even be a special gera merchant that will allow VIPs to buy special skins, but that's just a guess.

    2.  Not sure but you may be right.

    You guys are confused  200$ pack give:

    [quote]• Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    • Beta Weekend Friend Invite code
    • Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade', a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do'Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
    • Unique ‘Armored Spider' mount
    • Unique ‘Panther Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title
    VIP Game Access to skip-the-line and get priority log-in access[/quote]

    Read carefully BY VIP they mean you skip to the head of the line on login if there a line up to get in game.

     

    The 60$ pack gives:

    [quote]• Three-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    Unique ‘Gold Moonstone Mask Regalia' head piece
    • Unique ‘Armored Horse' mount
    • Unique ‘Direwolf Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title[/quote]

    The other thing is  peace of armor or fashion not a place.  Regalia is usauly some kind of formal wear. 

     

    @azzamasin ; I am a fan of forgetten realms and RA salvatore too, I have all the books he wrote that take place in FR doesn't change my POV. I am able to be a fan without becoming a blind fanboy, btw this is an insult at you just using the expression.

     

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  • Ambros123Ambros123 Neverneverland, TNPosts: 877Member
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by Latronus
    Originally posted by redcap036

    A few questions; 

    Q) what is the, " Moonstone Mask Tavern" about and why do I need VIP acess to it?

    Q) Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta, why would I need this?

     it's only open beta, surly I would want Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Opening day, maybe it's a typo?

    thanks for any answers.

    1.  I'm gonna assume it works like the VIP area in SWTOR did.  Your account gets flagged and you get to go in there and socialize.  There may even be a special gera merchant that will allow VIPs to buy special skins, but that's just a guess.

    2.  Not sure but you may be right.

    You guys are confused  20$ pack give:

    [quote]• Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    • Beta Weekend Friend Invite code
    • Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade', a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do'Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
    • Unique ‘Armored Spider' mount
    • Unique ‘Panther Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title
    VIP Game Access to skip-the-line and get priority log-in access[/quote]

    Read carefully BY VIP they mean you skip to the head of the line on login if there a line up to get in game.

     

    The 60$ pack gives:

    [quote]• Three-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    Unique ‘Gold Moonstone Mask Regalia' head piece
    • Unique ‘Armored Horse' mount
    • Unique ‘Direwolf Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title[/quote]

    The other thing is  peace of armor or fashion not a place.  Regalia is usauly some kind of formal wear. 

    Ummm.... your $20 benefits is the $200 dollar benefits.  The $20 one is:

    • ‘Adventurer's Helper Pack' containing six different types of in-game items
    • ‘Small Bag of Holding' for twelve extra inventory slots
    • ‘Amulet of Protection' item

    No CB acess, no head start, just a few items that likely will be utterly worthless as you progress in the game.

  • augustgraceaugustgrace Cottonwood, CAPosts: 624Member Uncommon

    Bought the $20 pack so your characters would have the extra bag  space?  Well the jokes on you.

    Neverwinter Starter Kit purchasers

    • Small Bag of Holding for a single character per Starter Pack purchased
     
    Also kind of makes it sound as though the $60 and $200 packs don't include the contents of the $20 pack.
  • AsheramAsheram San Diego, CAPosts: 1,989Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MikeB
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Originally posted by Asm0deus

    Way to expensive for founders packs... what is this new BS where companies make us pay to supposedly beta test?

    You're really just paying for early access, guaranteed beta time, and a few perks.  If you can wait, might as well!  It'll be F2P after all.

    I can understand a 60$ founder pack. It's kind of like buying a ps3 game or buying the client if you will but 200$ is just retarded

    The $200 pack is obviously not meant for everyone, which is why there are three tiers to the program. I'm not sure why people react this way every time a new game announces a pack like this. Think back to any MMO you've ever played, didn't you know that 'one guy' who always played? Even when you took a break for six months and came back? He'd still be there happily playing like it was the first month of launch.

    That's the player who will be interested in the top-tier pack. It's not like PWE (or any other game offering this sort of thing) is only offering a single high priced tier.  No one's forcing you to buy the thing. The fact of the matter is that game development costs real money and being able to guarantee some sort of upfront revenue is pretty attractive, especially when you're giving away the game for free. I think offering excited and dedicated fans some additional value in exchange for an upfront cost can be a real win-win for both parties involved when done well.

    Have at it if you want to criticize the actual content:value ratio of this particular pack (or any other), but I think the kneejerk scoffing at the price of these high-tier packs and $150 Collector Editions is honestly a bit silly.

    Yeah I have to agree with you there has there has been ample opportunity to get a beta key w/o buying a founder's pack at all such as pre-ordering TL2 or what I did -which came from a poster on this VERY site- buy the January edition to PCGAMER which included a NW beta key and a mount and cost me all of 2bux for the digital copy from GooglePlay.

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorPosts: 1,112Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ambros123
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by Latronus
    Originally posted by redcap036

    A few questions; 

    Q) what is the, " Moonstone Mask Tavern" about and why do I need VIP acess to it?

    Q) Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta, why would I need this?

     it's only open beta, surly I would want Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Opening day, maybe it's a typo?

    thanks for any answers.

    1.  I'm gonna assume it works like the VIP area in SWTOR did.  Your account gets flagged and you get to go in there and socialize.  There may even be a special gera merchant that will allow VIPs to buy special skins, but that's just a guess.

    2.  Not sure but you may be right.

    You guys are confused  200$ pack give:

    [quote]• Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    • Beta Weekend Friend Invite code
    • Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade', a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do'Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
    • Unique ‘Armored Spider' mount
    • Unique ‘Panther Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title
    VIP Game Access to skip-the-line and get priority log-in access[/quote]

    Read carefully BY VIP they mean you skip to the head of the line on login if there a line up to get in game.

     

    The 60$ pack gives:

    [quote]• Three-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    Unique ‘Gold Moonstone Mask Regalia' head piece
    • Unique ‘Armored Horse' mount
    • Unique ‘Direwolf Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title[/quote]

    The other thing is  peace of armor or fashion not a place.  Regalia is usauly some kind of formal wear. 

    Ummm.... your $20 benefits is the $200 dollar benefits.  The $20 one is:

    • ‘Adventurer's Helper Pack' containing six different types of in-game items
    • ‘Small Bag of Holding' for twelve extra inventory slots
    • ‘Amulet of Protection' item

    No CB acess, no head start, just a few items that likely will be utterly worthless as you progress in the game.

    Eh ya typo missed a zero lol, how about fixing it in the quote so as not to confuse peeps thnx

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  • LatronusLatronus Lexington Park, MDPosts: 692Member
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by Ambros123
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by Latronus
    Originally posted by redcap036

    A few questions; 

    Q) what is the, " Moonstone Mask Tavern" about and why do I need VIP acess to it?

    Q) Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta, why would I need this?

     it's only open beta, surly I would want Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Opening day, maybe it's a typo?

    thanks for any answers.

    1.  I'm gonna assume it works like the VIP area in SWTOR did.  Your account gets flagged and you get to go in there and socialize.  There may even be a special gera merchant that will allow VIPs to buy special skins, but that's just a guess.

    2.  Not sure but you may be right.

    You guys are confused  200$ pack give:

    [quote]• Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    • Beta Weekend Friend Invite code
    • Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade', a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do'Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
    • Unique ‘Armored Spider' mount
    • Unique ‘Panther Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title
    VIP Game Access to skip-the-line and get priority log-in access[/quote]

    Read carefully BY VIP they mean you skip to the head of the line on login if there a line up to get in game.

    It states in the description that there is VIP to the tavern.  Go back and read the paragraph above the list.  I'd copy it but I'm on an iPad and copy/pasting gets touchy.  There is also early access to the foundry.

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  • azzamasinazzamasin Butler, OHPosts: 3,066Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ambros123
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Plopping $200 first thing tomorrow.  I have never purchased any sort of Founder box, Collector Edition or Lifetime subscription but I am so positive that NWO is going to be that game, I want to insure they know I support their business.  Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Uhhhh huh.... just like SWTOR, TSW, AoC, and evey game that offered a lifetime sub also thought that their game was THE game of the second coming?

    Only the person who paid for the service can say it is or it isn't.  As someone who has followed the game since the begining and have watched every gameplay video from all the Cons and read all the interviews I am convinced this is "that" game for me and only "I" can say it is, not someone else.

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

    image

  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community Manager Queens, NYPosts: 5,716Administrator Uncommon
    Originally posted by azzamasin
    Originally posted by MikeB
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Originally posted by Asm0deus

    Way to expensive for founders packs... what is this new BS where companies make us pay to supposedly beta test?

    You're really just paying for early access, guaranteed beta time, and a few perks.  If you can wait, might as well!  It'll be F2P after all.

    I can understand a 60$ founder pack. It's kind of like buying a ps3 game or buying the client if you will but 200$ is just retarded

    The $200 pack is obviously not meant for everyone, which is why there are three tiers to the program. I'm not sure why people react this way every time a new game announces a pack like this. Think back to any MMO you've ever played, didn't you know that 'one guy' who always played? Even when you took a break for six months and came back? He'd still be there happily playing like it was the first month of launch.

    That's the player who will be interested in the top-tier pack. It's not like PWE (or any other game offering this sort of thing) is only offering a single high priced tier.  No one's forcing you to buy the thing. The fact of the matter is that game development costs real money and being able to guarantee some sort of upfront revenue is pretty attractive, especially when you're giving away the game for free. I think offering excited and dedicated fans some additional value in exchange for an upfront cost can be a real win-win for both parties involved when done well.

    Have at it if you want to criticize the actual content:value ratio of this particular pack (or any other), but I think the kneejerk scoffing at the price of these high-tier packs and $150 Collector Editions is honestly a bit silly.

    Exactly Bill.

     

    As a fan of ALL things RA Salvatore, Drizzt, D&D, and Action Combat with Dungeon Delving (plus the Foundry)  I intend to show PWE & Cryptic my support with this pack.  I have disposable income so it's not that big of deal for me to spend money on things I like.  Glad PWE and Cryptic is offereing this for "us fans".

    I'm Mike, FWIW. :P

    Michael "MikeB" Bitton
    Community Manager
    Twitter: @eMikeB

  • AsheramAsheram San Diego, CAPosts: 1,989Member Uncommon

     

    Exactly Bill.

     

    I'm Mike, FWIW. :P

    lol yours and Bills initials are the same but in reverse maybe that did it =p.

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorPosts: 1,112Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Latronus
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by Ambros123
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Originally posted by Latronus
    Originally posted by redcap036

    A few questions; 

    Q) what is the, " Moonstone Mask Tavern" about and why do I need VIP acess to it?

    Q) Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta, why would I need this?

     it's only open beta, surly I would want Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Opening day, maybe it's a typo?

    thanks for any answers.

    1.  I'm gonna assume it works like the VIP area in SWTOR did.  Your account gets flagged and you get to go in there and socialize.  There may even be a special gera merchant that will allow VIPs to buy special skins, but that's just a guess.

    2.  Not sure but you may be right.

    You guys are confused  200$ pack give:

    [quote]• Five-day head start access to Neverwinter Open Beta
    • Beta Weekend Friend Invite code
    • Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade', a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do'Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
    • Unique ‘Armored Spider' mount
    • Unique ‘Panther Companion'
    • In-game and forum ‘Founder' title
    VIP Game Access to skip-the-line and get priority log-in access[/quote]

    Read carefully BY VIP they mean you skip to the head of the line on login if there a line up to get in game.

    It states in the description that there is VIP to the tavern.  Go back and read the paragraph above the list.  I'd copy it but I'm on an iPad and copy/pasting gets touchy.  There is also early access to the foundry.

    I'm pretty active in the NW forum and it doesn't say that there, Cmpinpointerror an actual dev was busy updating info their for awhile.

     

    Even here at kotaku they don't mention any VIP tavern, thinking maybe the info here at mmorpg is wrong.

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  • jaffrojonesjaffrojones Glendora, CAPosts: 42Member
    Originally posted by Rogal_Urson

    Ok. I am calling bullshit on the Hero of the North pack.  I want to see the actual accounting sheets with the amounts tabulated under GAAP to make my own determinations here.  I know business accounting, I also know sales and gaming.  I realyl don't see how anything in that pack is valued at over half a grand. 

    Show me the accounting numbers so I can see the money!!!

    Did you really just say "show me the money?"

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