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I wouldn't play a game that looked to activley exclude gamers regardless of my IQ.
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Would the game be expected to require a certain level of intelligence to use the game mechanics, or would it just be a test to make sure everyone is at least a certain intelligence, regardless of the intelligence needed for the game's mechanics?
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Only if the Developers had to take a test about the history of MMORPGs, the different types of gameplay and what THEY think the value and importance of each is...and end it with what they think of Raph Koster and his ideas. Then show us the results.
I will then base wanting to play such a thing on those results. Otherwise, no I would not waste my time taking a test to play what no doubt would be another bland boring MMORPG that is sorely lacking in many areas of gameplay.
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I could just see it. MMMORPG.
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Originally posted by OnomasI actualy like using my brain to solve things in mmorpg's, something that has been missing this past few years with exception to rift and tsw which i both enjoy.
Are you talking about steep learning curves like with EVE and AO?
The industry seems to be catering to the "everyone is a winner" generation. Which means dumbed-down.
I think games with steep learning curves will still come out, but very few. Those companies generally like to be try something different and happy with a modest population. Let me expand on that. That they can stay in business with a modest population.
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I see elitism is well and thriwing. And some people believe they are better than others and deserve more just by being "better".
Damn, where did I see this already.... ah I remember, Nazi Germany said "Hi".
Coun't me out. Elitists should drown in their egos.
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Originally posted by Avarix No. I would think it was trying too hard. The pretentious hipster of MMO games.
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Originally posted by Spiider
I see elitism is well and thriwing. And some people believe they are better than others and deserve more just by being "better". Damn, where did I see this already.... ah I remember, Nazi Germany said "Hi". Coun't me out. Elitists should drown in their egos.
People that hold themselves to higher standards = Nazis?
Well there is a difference between saying you are an elite and people that dont want to dumb things down and lower their standards.
Doesnt make them elitists, just they get tired of the poor quality games where everything is handed to them, paths are told, story is given, and you are led around on a leash everytime you log in. Im no elitist, but im tired of the sub-par games being pumped out that requires no brain function whatsoever to beat.
No one here can say the industry is doing great with these cookie cutter games. We have have had more games go f2p, shut down, companies sold/bankrupt, and even worse this past 2 years than the entire length of the mmorpg history. Just saying.
The question is kinda moot to those who wouldn't make the cut. Also I think it's obvious that whoever bothered taking, passing and exceeding the prerequisite IQ test is interested in playing the MMO, unless he simply wants to know his IQ.
Of course all I said misses the point if the goal of this thread is to weed out those who think they have higher IQ than the mass MMO players.
I'd be game but under these conditions.
The publisher and development staff must take it prior to developing the game. I'd also require the publisher to take and pass a code of ethics exam.
I would probably not play a game that forced an arbitrary IQ test on its players just to weed out the undesirables. Mainly because it further promotes the kind of elitist behaviour that has been plaguing online gaming for years. This would basically build a community of entitled twats, thinking they are above the rest of the mmo-world due to their incredible intelligence.
In truth I'd would rather spend my time alongside a somewhat dull-witted person, I would practically need to take by hand and explain everything to, as long as he's humble and of cheerful personality, than spending my time along someone intelligent but socially inept, having to put up with the classic lectures on how to play the game, and being told you have to do things in a certain order for peak efficiency, have a certain build, and use a particular piece of equipment because otherwise I'd be inferior statistically, and gods forbid that!
Low IQ most certainly isn't the problem in MMOs.
I, for one, would not play such a game. I spend most of my day having to solve a wide variety of problems, and already have to spend even more learning new things and moving forward to work my way up the financial ladder to improve the quality of life and opportunities for my family. Gaming is a disconnect from that. If I enjoyed taking tests that much I'd just take some college classes for fun.
I will gladly play with all the dummies and bring myself "down to their level" in order to avoid that scenario.
Originally posted by KhinRunite Also I think it's obvious that whoever bothered taking, passing and exceeding the prerequisite IQ test is interested in playing the MMO, unless he simply wants to know his IQ.
Not necessarily. There are plenty who just want to be part of something exclusionary. Hell, look at the suggestions that regularly get put forth on these forums. Elitism isn't about what one likes but about excluding others from what they might like.
Look at the poll - 68% said Yes. No information was given about the theme, genre, gameplay or features. Their answer is based on one sole piece of information - an IQ gate.
Maybe this is an alternative idea:
Why not make the game sufficiently intellectually challenging and immune to cheating so the content itself acts as a gene pool filter?