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[Interview] ArcheAge: Jake Song On Teaming with Trion

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  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Awesome!

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • ragz45ragz45 rochester hills, MIPosts: 686Member Uncommon
    I can't help but wonder if this has anything to do with Scott Hartsman leaving trion?

     

  • troublmakertroublmaker St. George''s, NFPosts: 337Member

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

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  • ZooceZooce B, FLPosts: 586Member
    Such great news!
  • ZetsueiZetsuei Dana, KYPosts: 252Member

    Trion is a really good choice.  Let's hope they handle the game with respect and keep gamers in mind instead of milking them.

     

    I only have 2  concerns with AA.

     

    Price of game and monthly fee/cash shop: I just wish they would go the GW2 route for sell and handling of the game.  The days of monthly fees are drawing to a end and a monthly fee + cash shop will just help kill the game faster.  Box sale + cash shop of only convenience items is a great system. Add  being able to buy items from the cash shop with in-game money and its a even greater system. 

     

    Servers: I know the game is a open PvP game, but give players choice. The game is truly amazing, but honestly, i would just want to play the game in peace and actually enjoy it on a PvE server.

     

    The game has a lot going for it, but if I have learned anything over the years of playing tons of MMOs it is this: the eastern devs don't like change and once they decide on something it will stay that way.  Unless your FFXIV and your game bombs so hard you have to completely re-design it.

     

     
  • firefly2003firefly2003 Los Angeles, CAPosts: 2,555Member
    Originally posted by vtravi
    Hmm 30 levels of tutorial. How many players are gonna quite before they get through the tutorial. I only need about an hour to figure out how a game works. This seems excessive

    May seem excessive to some but remember there are plenty of people that will probably need it since the MMORPG genre went down hill since WoW there aren't that many bright players these days.

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  • KanylKanyl a cold placePosts: 246Member Uncommon
    Best choise ever! Awesome game (from what I have heard) with an awesome company! Win/win! Makes me very happy! :)
  • NilenyaNilenya TMIPosts: 364Member Uncommon

    Trion is a great choice. 

     

  • IstafeinIstafein New York, NYPosts: 70Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kanyl
    Best choise ever! Awesome game (from what I have heard) with an awesome company! Win/win! Makes me very happy! :)

    Yeah! I had the whole 'cautious optimism' thing going for this game until now. Now I'm going to let myself get excited. xD

    “So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." - Matthew 6-34


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  • PigEyePigEye campbellsville, KYPosts: 78Member
    As others have stated, blessed be, it's not NCsoft!

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  • gundamwinggundamwing Mechanicsville, MDPosts: 49Member
    So glad it is not Ncsoft! XL Games made a great choice with Trion Worlds. There dev and CM teams are top notch. I am now excited more than ever to play Archeage.

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  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Somewhere in nowherePosts: 2,325Member Uncommon

    Well dang, sure didn't expect that!

    But I think it's a good choice as well.

    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

    In the Rift beta, you could see that the developers were listening to the feedback and the amount of fixes released with each patch to the game was incredible.

    Also for Rift, Trion has put out metric shittons of new content over the past year, especially compared to other MMO's, that seem to go into long periods of nothing being added.

     

    The least you can say is indeed that they have a vision of things, they dare to make decisions like removing the gear grind from PvP or developing new open forms of PvP. Making a game that syncs with a TV show and publishing something like End of Nations isn't exactly standard fare either.

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  • tkoreapertkoreaper Castroville, TXPosts: 401Member Common
    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

    Just because they don't have a billion games doesn't mean they're not good. They have a very positive track record as a company and anyone who has personally dealt with them or at least took the time to research the company knows this. As an ex-Rift player I personally have never seen such a great development team anywhere else. The money they make is spent wisely and they are not greedy like most companies these days. They really do put their players first and don't hold back on anything.

     

    In Rift's first year Trion generated more than $100 million dollars in revenue... Something that shouldn't be taken lightly for a new company. They also recieved several investment deals, one of which that was over $85 million... Obviously other companies see their potential.  

     

    I challenge you to give us a much better choice for a publisher. What other companies have had success such as this? Would you really trust EA, Mythic, Blizzard? Anet is a sibsidiary of NCsoft and all they have is Guild Wars, would you see them as a success considering they've only released 2 games in the past 8 years... Since it seems you think more poducts = more success.

     
  • XiaokiXiaoki White Pigeon, MIPosts: 2,603Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Only 10 abillities?
    "Abilities" isnt really the right word but thats what they call them.


    Theres 10 skill trees and each skill tree represents a God and has a list of spells/abilities.


    Heres a partial list:

    http://archeagewiki.com/Ability

  • xSh0xxSh0x Scottsdale, AZPosts: 125Member
    Originally posted by Xiaoki

     


    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Only 10 abillities?

    "Abilities" isnt really the right word but thats what they call them.

     


    Theres 10 skill trees and each skill tree represents a God and has a list of spells/abilities.


    Heres a partial list:

    http://archeagewiki.com/Ability

    http://archeagescandinavia.se/skillcalc.html

    The only significant downsides to ArcheAge are the 50v50/time limited sieges.  And some skill balance issues. 

  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Wolcott, NYPosts: 671Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by PsychoPigeon
    Optional? There's 50 levels in the game it's not optional.

    Wait! There are 50 levels in the game and the tutoral part takes up over half those levels? Hmmm..... they better be some great tutoral levels lol.

    Now Trion bringing the game to the west... not a bad choice, but the direction they took Rift in recently is sad. They were a great team, but some have and are leaving the team so time will tell what they will become over there at Trion.

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  • ezpz77ezpz77 Beale, CAPosts: 227Member
    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

     

    They really support their game and the community. From a gamer's perspective, what more could you ask for?

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Posts: 2,114Member Uncommon

    Good decision with Trion.

    Would be nice to see the game out ...in the west...this year.

    30 levels to give you a sense of the game.Fine with me...but "grist for the mill" for those looking to worry and complain.

  • SygrisSygris WilPosts: 26Member
    Originally posted by Shadanwolf

    Good decision with Trion.

    Would be nice to see the game out ...in the west...this year.

    30 levels to give you a sense of the game.Fine with me...but "grist for the mill" for those looking to worry and complain.

    trion is planning on releasing aa later this year.

    source: http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/24/trion-to-publish-xl-games-massive-online-game-archeage-in-western-markets-exclusive/#EHJ77rD3og1pMjDQ.99

    you should find it right over the picture of the hariharan.

    "Trion aims to launch the game later this year in North America, Europe, Turkey, Australia, and New Zealand."

  • RizelStarRizelStar Raleigh, NCPosts: 2,773Member
    That's good Trion isn't bad, I stil hope for no sub but I doubt that, if so it'll be [one of] the greatest MMOs I never played, should also add if it does have a sub I won't bash the quality of the game itself, I'm sure Sandbox/park fans are happy as they should be I think. 

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,209Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

    They really support their game and the community. From a gamer's perspective, what more could you ask for?

    How have they really supported their game and community?  They pumped out content at a good pace for the first 18 months, then xpac, and now few months later?  Unless they can match their first 18 month pace then they were full of a lot of hot air and marketing bull.  So far they're not on pace.

    The fact is they don't have an outsanding record as a publisher.  I can see being excited that EA isn't the publisher, but that's different than throwing accolades at Trion where they haven't earned them yet.

  • ezpz77ezpz77 Beale, CAPosts: 227Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

    They really support their game and the community. From a gamer's perspective, what more could you ask for?

    How have they really supported their game and community?  They pumped out content at a good pace for the first 18 months, then xpac, and now few months later?  Unless they can match their first 18 month pace then they were full of a lot of hot air and marketing bull.  So far they're not on pace.

    The fact is they don't have an outsanding record as a publisher.  I can see being excited that EA isn't the publisher, but that's different than throwing accolades at Trion where they haven't earned them yet.

     

    So you're saying that they've been slacking in the last six months in terms of updates to the game? They've patched the game over 50 times, and have made significant changes to the game 10 times. They're already gearing up for 2.2. This is all while developing and preparing for a major expansion.

     

    What do you want from them? A reacharound and a sandwich after?

  • steelwindsteelwind Folsom, CAPosts: 345Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

    They really support their game and the community. From a gamer's perspective, what more could you ask for?

    How have they really supported their game and community?  They pumped out content at a good pace for the first 18 months, then xpac, and now few months later?  Unless they can match their first 18 month pace then they were full of a lot of hot air and marketing bull.  So far they're not on pace.

    The fact is they don't have an outsanding record as a publisher.  I can see being excited that EA isn't the publisher, but that's different than throwing accolades at Trion where they haven't earned them yet.

    One thing to consider is IF they need to update Archeage that frequently compared to Rift. It seems to me that out of the box content is huge and there will be a considerable amount to keep players busy for longer compared to Rift where they pretty much had to update it frequently due to a lack of content. If you have to tools to entertain yourself (sandbox), then you won't need updates as much because you will just focus on another area of the game.

     

  • Slappy1Slappy1 columbus, OHPosts: 458Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Not to rain in on people's parade but what makes Trion such an outstanding publisher?  They've published one game so far and it's had less than average success.

    The other game they were publishing, End of Nations is no longer being developed... or has had severely delayed development.

    That other game they're working on Defiance isn't out yet.

    Crytek's Warface (which they're publishing) isn't out yet.

    They don't really have an outstanding record as a publisher.

    They really support their game and the community. From a gamer's perspective, what more could you ask for?

    How have they really supported their game and community?  They pumped out content at a good pace for the first 18 months, then xpac, and now few months later?  Unless they can match their first 18 month pace then they were full of a lot of hot air and marketing bull.  So far they're not on pace.

    The fact is they don't have an outsanding record as a publisher.  I can see being excited that EA isn't the publisher, but that's different than throwing accolades at Trion where they haven't earned them yet.

    From what I just looked at SL release was 11/13/2012 they had 6 hotfixes and then 2.1 patch on 12/12/2012 and have had 5 hotfixes since that.I fail to see that they're anywhere near being full of hot air.In 2 month's and 11 day's to have 11 hotfixes and a 2.1 patch.

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  • dadante666dadante666 buford, GAPosts: 404Member Uncommon
    Trion was the perfect fit to be honest,ncsoft have experience whit Kor games but all fail fast and ncsoft really dont work well whit it they love to make change and is to the worst for Kor games,not saying NCSOFT is not good its great  but not whit kor games and trion will fix better ,cause theres no other better companny other than Ncsoft  and trion ,blizzard are like the redneck companny  and funcom well you know.. peace

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