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[Column] Star Wars: The Old Republic: How SWTOR Can Own 2013



  • RyowulfRyowulf Greensburg, PAPosts: 664Member Uncommon

    SWToR's biggest most hyped feature is also its Acillics heel.  I don't know how much money it would cost to voice act another 10 levels for all the classes on both factions, but I doubt its a small number.

    I think EA is looking for some short term profits, because they don't plan on keeping this game viable in the long run. That makes the most sense with how they have done ftp, this tiny upcoming expansion, the endless promises of "we are working on this or that...for the furture."

    Some people are pointing to server numbers as if that equals $$$, but how many people are playing for free? How many out of those that do spend are spending more than 15 a month?

    Is there enough people spending money to dig this game out of its hole and be appealing enough for EA to keep around?

    I don't know, but I doubt it.

  • BeyornBeyorn Posts: 274Member Uncommon

    These are the things I would love to see:

    1. Continuing of class stories
    2. Bug Fixes
    3. Being able to use Companions more,  have them become a greater part of the story, right now I use only one and the rest are left on the ship to rot
  • PieRadPieRad Odense MPosts: 1,108Member staff, you should read rules of conduct, no baiting allowed.

    You trolls, you.


  • xpowderxxpowderx Radcliff, KYPosts: 2,063Member Uncommon

    I miss my Powertech. The issue with SWTOR is too much theme park. You play through it once and your done. I agree with Mike on the point that Bioware needs to constantly add expansions. If SWTOR had more of a open world/worlds the need for a expansion would be less.

    Would be nice to see Bioware expand on PVP. PVP in SWTOR is quite fun! It is SWTOR's real strong point. Towards my end of my SWTOR experience I only logged in to pvp.


  • YizleYizle Atlanta, GAPosts: 517Member
    Originally posted by PieRad staff, you should read rules of conduct, no baiting allowed. You trolls, you.


  • WahrHeitWahrHeit SantiagoPosts: 57Member Uncommon
    so...this is
  • McGamerMcGamer C.S.T., USAPosts: 1,024Member Uncommon
    While I don't agree that SWTOR could own any year without anything short of a miracle. I do however agree with Mike B. for once on his points in that those ideas would go a long ways to helping SWTOR get on the right track.
  • darkhalf357xdarkhalf357x Brooklyn, NYPosts: 1,188Member Uncommon

    Thanks Mike. Good article.  Completely agree.  SWTOR isn't the best game, but contrary to popular belief it does have some redeeming qualities which are fun.  Whats missing are side systems to flesh out the main story.  Give us housing or hell, make the cantina a social spot to congregate. Give us other things to do than just quest that adds to the Star Wars universe.

    Also believe space combat was a missed opportunity.  Adding something of greater depth and exploration here (dare I say travel to planets manually) would be a plus.

    Not convinced Bioware has the manpower to deliver this year.  But will see what happens. I'm currently playing my Bounty Hunter story in F2P and cant say its not fun.

  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Elmer, NJPosts: 1,857Member
    The game os long overdue for a switch over to DX11. That's actually one of my main beefs with it.

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  • leinad312leinad312 Kirkland, WAPosts: 314Member Uncommon
    I think they blew their chance to get people reinterested with their overly restrictive f2p model.

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  • LawlmonsterLawlmonster Posts: 1,021Member Uncommon

    I personally don't believe there's any hope left for this game. I wanted Pazaak, swoop racing, and a great space game at launch, and they could have delivered if holding to a stringent release date wasn't such a priority. Truth be told, it probably would have been better for the overall reception if they had managed to spend more time on the details, rather than releasing in a state of unfinishedness, turning F2P, and hoping they could fill in the gaps as they proceed.


    Man, it still gets me. I wanted to like it so much, but there's relatively nothing to do aside from questing and instanced PvP, which I think we can all recognize as important core features in a themepark, but that there needs to be more for players to justify subscription, or long term activity.

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  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member

    To make this game matter in 2013 it needs

    - housing system, housing zones

    - space combat revamp, add a space sim/trading/mining part with customizable ships

    - get rid of exhaustion zomes and corridor/maze design, game lacks open world feeling

    - revamp textures and engine features

    - add minigames

    - open world pvp objectives

    - better. quests.

    - revamp mob A.I.

    - add day/night changes on planets

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  • EsuarfeeeeEsuarfeeee cityofangelsPosts: 85Member Uncommon
    lol nope

  • FARGIN_WARFARGIN_WAR New York, NYPosts: 166Member

    I doubt very much that TOR can afford to even rent 2013.


    A few years ago the people in charge of the purse strings should have had the common sense to say no. Sadly they didn't and this game turned into the shambling frankenstein's monster we know today that eats money and creative resources like candy. I fail to see how they can turn the game around now that they have far less money resources and time to utlize the same ridiculous framework they've created.


    The creative team had some big dreams. Unfortunately they were the same kind of dreams that built Mad King Ludwig's castle.


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  • ezpz77ezpz77 Beale, CAPosts: 227Member
    Originally posted by xpowderx
    I miss my Powertech. The issue with SWTOR is too much theme park. You play through it once and your done. I agree with Mike on the point that Bioware needs to constantly add expansions. If SWTOR had more of a open world/worlds the need for a expansion would be less. Would be nice to see Bioware expand on PVP. PVP in SWTOR is quite fun! It is SWTOR's real strong point. Towards my end of my SWTOR experience I only logged in to pvp. CRIMSON ELITE      


    Class balance is about as bad as I've seen it in any MMO. Huttball is a ton of fun though. 


    I'm sort of confused by the themepark remarks I've seen in this thread. What exactly were people expecting from Bioware? They make linear story-driven games. They gave us a linear story-driven MMO. They were never going to make a game with depth and complexity like SWG. They need some more fluff features like ship customization, guild ships, mini-games etc. but I don't see where SWTOR, a one year old game, is lacking realative to other themepark styled MMOs.

  • eddieg50eddieg50 Tolland, CTPosts: 1,727Member Uncommon
    It is a Great game that just needs a Great Space game to go with it
  • iamrtaiamrta your momsPosts: 164Member Uncommon
    Needs Star Wars.
  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,278Member Uncommon
    The game does have some redeeming qualities, and they can take the punch and roll with it well enough if they try. However i think there is too much to do in a year for them to introduce for it to be 2013. 2014 if its alive maybe but they gotta pull up their socks NOW.

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  • OzmodanOzmodan Hilliard, OHPosts: 8,175Member Rare
    I would be willing to pay for a decent space expansion like SWG had, but I doubt very much they have enough staff left to do such.  I won't even play that ridiculous joke of a space on rails.
  • Jerek_Jerek_ tulsa, OKPosts: 409Member
    seems very overly optimistic to me, but I can agree with the suggestions that a boxed xpac, new space game, continued class story and maybe minigames  would be the best things they could do.  But the developers statements seem pretty clear to me-  they aren't doing class exclusive story going forward, and they don't have the people, resources, or time to do it anyway.  It don't see a real xpac being possible for the same reasons, but it would be nice.
  • orionblackorionblack Wichita Falls, TXPosts: 493Member Uncommon
    hahahaha laughed so hard!!! ^^
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Posts: 17,392Member Epic
    Originally posted by Burntvet
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Guess Bioware/EAturd paid you guys off for some more positive publicity.


    It really does make one wonder, how massively over-positive articles like this seem to pop up with surprising regularity here.

    Or maybe MikeB is just one of the people who likes SWTOR.  Even mediocre games usually have their fans.

  • SBE1SBE1 New York, NYPosts: 335Member

    Several problems with your column. 

    1) You cannot have large scale open world PvP with the current Hero engine.  It reduces too many players to unacceptably low FPS, creating a slide-show and it's not fun for anyone. Furthermore, they have to have objectives to fight over that can't be done by 1 person in 10 seconds and finally they would have to address the swapping of kills that was common.  It's way too much for this slimmed down development team to tackle.  

    2) They've added faction grinding and same-gender romances on a new planet for $10 charge.  Color me unimpressed.  Expanding the class stories would require MASSIVE expenditures because of the voice acting. They bet the farm on voice acting, and it's proving not to be worth it in a theme-park setting.  Perhaps in a sandbox version it might have paid off.

    3) The game is, and will remain, a single-player theme-park game that has some multi-player aspects such as warzones and some raids.  

    Finally, when was the last time a game closed about 90% of its servers, suffered this much reduction in players, gone F2P within 6 months of launch, and came back to "win"?  

    I'll just wait for a decent sand-box game to come around.  I think developers have learned that WoW was a 1-time kind of thing and that the best models are something similar to EvE because they require much less on-going funding and players stick around longer.

  • bambocheurbambocheur washington, DCPosts: 8Member Uncommon
    Sorry but the "Resolve Bar" issue has to be addressed by BW.   Class fixes aside, how many f2p's and subs will continue to play when they can't control their character?
  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 1,930Member Uncommon
    I'm gonna start drinking.
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