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Is Black Deserts the real Elder Scrolls Online?

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  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    Originally posted by DSWBeef
    First Archeage now this. Korea knows the future of mmos. Korea you finally have my attention.

     1. I dont care what anyone says, 3:30 mark...now THAT is an escort quest!

    2. Korea has had the pulse of the MMO market for a very long time. The Lineage games had Asian combat but a western world for a long time, NCsoft is Korean and they proved with Guild Wars 1 they were making games with a Western market in mind. Nexon another Korean company is the second largest game company on the planet now behind only EA in terms of profits, think about that for a second...Perfect World, they opened offices in America and Europe and hired developers to make western style updates for their asian games a few years ago because they want their games to be for everyone...how many companies do that?

    So, with games like Lineage, Guild Wars, Tera...Archeage, Black Deserts is not a surprise to me!

    “I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  • VorthanionVorthanion Laguna Vista, TXPosts: 2,121Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Grotar89
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Archeage is CryEngine3 which is about 100x better than whatever crap is used in this game.

     

    AA is also on rails quest grinder, with tab target combat  1+2+3+4 spam that crap has been in MMOs since EQ, No ty.

    Almost all upcoming MMOs have actipny combat.

    ArcheAge doesnt look that impressive if you watched some streams from open beta you would see that game is nothing like trailers charachter models are also bland and boring.....

    I will take Black Desert anytime before AA, and it has more sanbox elements than AA.

    Thank goodness not every single MMO coming out in the near future is going to embrace action combat.  There are an awful lot of gamers like me who would be more than happy to play without the twitch.  Also, I think you are vastly underestimating the number of MMO gamers who don't like action combat.  We are more than enough reason to keep making at least a few games that play at a slower pace.

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  • koboldfodderkoboldfodder Danbury, DEPosts: 390Member Uncommon

    The World Graphics and the Character Graphics simply do not mesh.

     

    The world LOOKs amazing.  Looks perfect.  Looks like a Skyrim type of world, where things are based on realism.  Then you look at the characters in action, and it looks like some sort of console action/combo game....where people in plate armor are flipping about in the air.

     

    Asian MMOs have NEVER be able to mesh combat/character style with a real world setting.  It's all about cliche anime stock players.  You have the tall, effiminate elven race.  You have the short, cute race.  There is probably a girl only race that has fur or ears.  There there is the standard human race.  Oh, and the giant "beast" race which looks metro sexual.

     

    Everyone is pretty in an Asian MMO.

     

    I am totally fine with them making that type of game....if the world looks like it fits the characters that inhabit it.  Like FFXIV....yes, the game sucks, but the characters and the world seem to fit nicely together.

     

    Western developers cannot create the actual game world right.  They get the characters down great.  But they screw up with the world, creating some sort of themepark hybrid that no one really wants.  Easter developers totally nail the world aspect of creation, but they always screw up on the characters.

     

    Traditional high fantasy VS Anime fantasy.  It's a pretty big difference.

  • Kenshin_HimuraKenshin_Himura Philadelphia, PAPosts: 75Member
    After watching the video I don't see anything in this game to look like TES but looks like what Lineage 3 would have been specially the fighting system remind me old Korean grinders and not action like fighting of TES.

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  • dinamsdinams Muriae, VAPosts: 1,362Member
    Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
    After watching the video I don't see anything in this game to look like TES but looks like what Lineage 3 would have been specially the fighting system remind me old Korean grinders and not action like fighting of TES.

    What?

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vorthanion
    Originally posted by Grotar89
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Archeage is CryEngine3 which is about 100x better than whatever crap is used in this game.

     

    AA is also on rails quest grinder, with tab target combat  1+2+3+4 spam that crap has been in MMOs since EQ, No ty.

    Almost all upcoming MMOs have actipny combat.

    ArcheAge doesnt look that impressive if you watched some streams from open beta you would see that game is nothing like trailers charachter models are also bland and boring.....

    I will take Black Desert anytime before AA, and it has more sanbox elements than AA.

    Thank goodness not every single MMO coming out in the near future is going to embrace action combat.  There are an awful lot of gamers like me who would be more than happy to play without the twitch.  Also, I think you are vastly underestimating the number of MMO gamers who don't like action combat.  We are more than enough reason to keep making at least a few games that play at a slower pace.

    Slow combat doesn't have to be boring though.  The problem with a lot of tab-targeted slower combat systems, like LotRO, VG, and EQ2, is that the combat system is boring and slow.  Rift hasn't really done anything to make the static combat system any better or feel more engaging.  Some of the older turn-based combat systems of console games were more interesting (PS1: Legend of the Dragoons) than the same old static combat we've seen over and over and over again.

    What do you have to back up your claim that he's vastly underestimating the number of players who don't like action combat if given a choice in a new game?  Is that based on intuition and feeling?  Because I have the opposite feeling, but no real evidence to support it.

  • VarthanderVarthander BarcelonaPosts: 471Member
    Looks nice but im not impressed, for me looks like a Vindictus with open world.

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAPosts: 18,462Member Uncommon
    love it, sign me up.
  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    Originally posted by Varthander
    Looks nice but im not impressed, for me looks like a Vindictus with open world.

     That is actually an excellent idea. Vindictus had perfect action combat and a great setting, the MMORPG genre needs a good action based game to end the bad attempts at it like Tera.

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  • DeserttFoxxDeserttFoxx North York, ONPosts: 2,360Member Uncommon
    Another MMo that is 3 years off, and probably wont be translated into english.

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  • shathirashathira Greenfield, WIPosts: 8Member
    Seems like that was an awful lot of cutscene animation, which everyone has the capability to make look astounding these days.  The gameplay seemed like the camera was very choppy, trying to keep up with character animation, and I agree with a previous comment about the constant flashes on hit/swing were headache enducing.  We'll see where it goes to from here.
  • steelheartxsteelheartx Biloxi, MSPosts: 432Member Uncommon

    Thought that it looked pretty good for being a few years out.  Curious to see how it shapes up!

     

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  • IstavaanIstavaan CorkPosts: 1,350Member
    Korean mmo trailers never make any sense, it's ooh that looks nice but what the fuck is going on. here?
  • IstavaanIstavaan CorkPosts: 1,350Member
    Originally posted by alyosha17

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SNFSw107MQs

     

    It seems like it has more features relevant to an Elder Scrolls game.  Action combat, mounted combat, housing, seamless world, plus the aesthetics are similar.  It has a very western, almost Tolkien-esque look.

    How can you make that assumption when you know pretty much nothing about TESO?

  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
    Another MMo that is 3 years off, and probably wont be translated into english.

     Actually they are shooting for a Q2 open beta which means a late 2013 or early 2014 release.

    Also, the developers have given interviews, in English and has stated they are trying for a WORLD WIDE RELEASE near the same time as the Korean release.

    Quote from the interview, page 2 "We are still working on contracts with other publishers from other countries, so the testing schedule could change at anytime. For now, our goal is to have a public version by 2013 in South Korea. Depending on how much progress we make, I think our first test is scheduled sometime in the first half of 2013."

    Full interview is here http://steparu.com/previews/mmo-rpg-previews/897-black-desert-online-interview

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by xmenty

    Black Desert housing and tent system video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tsD_FLgpGr4

    I hadn't seen the housing video yet, thanks.

    It all looks good except for the combat animations. If the game is a good sandbox though, I can ignore the combat animations.

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  • jtcgsjtcgs New Port Richey, ILPosts: 1,777Member
    Originally posted by Tayah

    It all looks good except for the combat animations. If the game is a good sandbox though, I can ignore the combat animations.

     Yeah but try to keep in mind that this isnt even in open beta yet so we could be talking alpha or early beta 1 so those will improve. just looking at their other games, I would say they wont ignore that.

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jtcgs
    Originally posted by Tayah

    It all looks good except for the combat animations. If the game is a good sandbox though, I can ignore the combat animations.

     Yeah but try to keep in mind that this isnt even in open beta yet so we could be talking alpha or early beta 1 so those will improve. just looking at their other games, I would say they wont ignore that.

    Good Point, aye we'll see once we can get our hands on it one day :)

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    What happens when you log off your characters????.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
    Dark Age of Camelot

  • VorthanionVorthanion Laguna Vista, TXPosts: 2,121Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Vorthanion
    Originally posted by Grotar89
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Archeage is CryEngine3 which is about 100x better than whatever crap is used in this game.

     

    AA is also on rails quest grinder, with tab target combat  1+2+3+4 spam that crap has been in MMOs since EQ, No ty.

    Almost all upcoming MMOs have actipny combat.

    ArcheAge doesnt look that impressive if you watched some streams from open beta you would see that game is nothing like trailers charachter models are also bland and boring.....

    I will take Black Desert anytime before AA, and it has more sanbox elements than AA.

    Thank goodness not every single MMO coming out in the near future is going to embrace action combat.  There are an awful lot of gamers like me who would be more than happy to play without the twitch.  Also, I think you are vastly underestimating the number of MMO gamers who don't like action combat.  We are more than enough reason to keep making at least a few games that play at a slower pace.

    Slow combat doesn't have to be boring though.  The problem with a lot of tab-targeted slower combat systems, like LotRO, VG, and EQ2, is that the combat system is boring and slow.  Rift hasn't really done anything to make the static combat system any better or feel more engaging.  Some of the older turn-based combat systems of console games were more interesting (PS1: Legend of the Dragoons) than the same old static combat we've seen over and over and over again.

    What do you have to back up your claim that he's vastly underestimating the number of players who don't like action combat if given a choice in a new game?  Is that based on intuition and feeling?  Because I have the opposite feeling, but no real evidence to support it.

    The size of the player bases for these slower paced games would be an indication as would the overall numbers of players who play slower paced games versus the overall numbers of gamers who play action MMOs would also be an indication, don't you think?

    You may find EQ2 and WoW combat boring, but I do not.  In fact, I prefer it be even slower like EQ Live and Dark Age of Camelot.  I'm interested in my character's ability to overcome adversity, not my twitch skills.

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