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Rift: Scott Hartsman Leaving Trion Worlds

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

In the Rift Year Two State of the Game letter, Scott Hartsman has announced that he is leaving Trion Worlds. According to the post, Hartsman indicated that he will still be playing Rift but does not indicate where he is going post-Trion.

I wanted to let you know that I'm stepping down from my position here at Trion. It's been an amazing time, working with some of the best developers anywhere, getting the company's first game off the ground, taking it all the way through a multitude of amazing updates, then to Storm Legion, and even a little bit beyond.

Thanks for all of your support and dedication throughout.

The good news is that if you enjoy what's been going on in RIFT lately, the folks who are now in charge are the same ones who have been making all of the game-impacting decisions, both to content and gameplay, for some time now. You’ll definitely be hearing from Bill Fisher, the lead game designer soon with some exciting updates. They love and play the game a lot as well and I feel strongly that RIFT couldn't be in better hands.

This time at Trion has truly been an amazing journey. It's been my great privilege to have been a part of it.

And I'll still see you in RIFT.

Scott Hartsman

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,985

    I didn't find RIFT to be a long term game, but I did appreciate that he and his company delivered a pretty polished product at release.  It was a welcome change from the typical half-baked trash that is pawned off on players...

     

     

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  • jimdandy26jimdandy26 Member Posts: 527
    He did not even post the letter himself. Good riddence.

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    Let's see what they'll announce in their update (part 2) tomorrow.

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  • cronius77cronius77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,652
    i honestly think this might be a good thing. Rift never ever stepped away from medeocre success and a lot of that had to do with who was in charge and making the decisions there. I know some hard core fans will disagree but you can look at the amount of servers over its lifetime and see its been steady decreasing population since release and only seeing small spikes around major patches and the expansion. Maybe its just time to get some fresh creative talent to call the shots even if they worked on rift before. I think if they were smart as well they would listen to the playerbase a lot more than before. I personally paid for storm legion and leveled to level 54 and was so bored out of my mind i quit and regret paying for it. It was just exactly more of the same only even longer to level up and with the nurfing of classes constantly it just got really old after awhile especially for warriors.
  • AtrocitusAtrocitus Member UncommonPosts: 85

    RIFTs supporting team is top notch.

     

    Obviously Scott was a huge catalyst for this game, and its a negative to see him go. HOWEVER, the supporting cast has learned alot from the man, and are in a great position to oversee the game.

     

    RIFT is still one of the best MMO's out there...

     

     

    TY for all you did Scott.....

  • erictlewiserictlewis Member UncommonPosts: 3,022
    I just hope that soe does not let him come back to eq2 or to vangaurd.   We got enough stuff wrong with our game without letting him back in. 
  • thecapitainethecapitaine Member UncommonPosts: 408
    I don't know why but I have a feeling that tomorrow's update is going to announce a new business model for Rift.  I've always had the feeling that Scott was someone who kept the game from going F2P (or B2P) almost by will alone.  I guess we'll have to see.  In any case, I'm sorry to see him go and I wish him the best.  I really like his vision of MMOs as service and dedication to pushing out content that makes a sub worthwhile.
  • cippalippacippalippa Member UncommonPosts: 108
    Originally posted by jimdandy26
    He did not even post the letter himself. Good riddence.

    not a good sign :/

  • bbbb42bbbb42 Member UncommonPosts: 297
    .___. free wift  4 aull

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  • Rthuth434Rthuth434 Member Posts: 346
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Let's see what they'll announce in their update (part 2) tomorrow.

    for those who are old enough to remember his EQ2 days.....What was announced and instated shortly following him leaving SOE? same might be in the works for RIFT.

  • azzamasinazzamasin Member UncommonPosts: 3,105
    Now maybe they can go Free to Play and actually attract a larger playerbase.

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    He hasn't left trion, presumably he's working on their next mmo.
  • PittyHPittyH Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by erictlewis
    I just hope that soe does not let him come back to eq2 or to vangaurd.   We got enough stuff wrong with our game without letting him back in. 

    Eh? The guys been at the helm of both eq2 and rift, when they were at thier peaks in popularity.

    Coincedence ? who knows ?

    My geuss is he's come back to SOE for EQ2 next. or he's at some big MMO coming soon.

    In his bio it says he's been involved with over a billion dollars of MMO revenue.

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  • Rthuth434Rthuth434 Member Posts: 346
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    He hasn't left trion, presumably he's working on their next mmo.

     

    he definitely is adamantly against non-subscription mmo's and since defiance is a cash shop driven b2p title and end of nations is f2p(and in imbo) i'd say he's looking for work elsewhere.

     

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Member UncommonPosts: 2,049
     
    I wish you could delete posts.
  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Member UncommonPosts: 2,049
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    He hasn't left trion, presumably he's working on their next mmo.
     

    It is in the first sentence of the announcement "I wanted to let you know that I'm stepping down from my position here at Trion."

  • AcidonAcidon Member UncommonPosts: 796

    This may explain the uneasy feeling we've almost collectively been having for the past month.

    I love the crap out of Rift.  But I can't say this bodes well.

     

    EDIT TO ADD:  In case Mr. Hartsman reads this.  You were an amazing force in Trion.   You will be missed and best of luck wherever you may be heading.

  • AZHokie54AZHokie54 Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Well, there goes that game.
  • itchmonitchmon Member RarePosts: 1,999

    his games might not have been for everyone but they've been great games for the folks who  appreciate them.  I always considered firt a very good game although its really not exactly the style of game i'm looking for now.

     

    my guess is his finger print will appear on either EQN or titan.

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  • tiddytiddy Member Posts: 23

    aawwwhmmm :( ......

    This is sad news for Trion fans. I hate seeing him go.

    His Rift raised the bar for MMOs and set new standards for the whole industry. He did an awesome awesome job. 

    I Wish him all the best.

  • azurreiazurrei Member UncommonPosts: 332
    This SCREAMS B2P conversion is on the way..
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    I guess no one can dispute that he did a great job and i gave him credit for not going to some shitty "freemium"-model in a time in which mmorpgs went F2P (=failed2pay)  by the dozen.

    But then on the other hand, he couldn't lift the game to proper numbers above estimated 150-200k subs. I can very well imagine that they let him hold the handle until Storm Legion launched and that it's sales would decide what would happen then.

    We've never heard any numbers for a suspicious length of time and long before SL, my personal guess would be SL sits at around 120k + sold, which on today's market is nothing. In the end, all of their PR spin (trial server and cash shop lies) couldn't prevent what many saw long ago: mediocre game, bad numbers bound to happen down the road, investors not happy with their $85mio, heads roll. If Rift was an EA, SOE or NCSOFT game, it would have been gone already.

    But i see Rift has a second chance now. Perhaps this new guy is only hired as a janitor to keep Rift in maintenance mode. Or perhaps for the very first time, Trion has someone in charge who actually dares to take the game somewhere up the path to an own identity and away from from low risk, blatant copy+paste of mechanics (some of them 15 years old) proven in other games.

    Seeing the dumbing down is already in full charge (probably to make the game easier on whats left of the team), i doubt it though.

     

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  • thinktank001thinktank001 Member UncommonPosts: 2,144
    This means that Rift is switching to a cash shop model.   I guess this is the end of meaningful development for the game.   
  • SiveriaSiveria Member UncommonPosts: 1,419

    Rift is doing fine. Though I do admit the game needs stuff for level 60's to do other than raid or some random dailies. As it is, there is really nothing to do for level 60's outside of raiding. My char is level 59 halfway thru to 60, and honestly I cannot say I am excited to hit 60 at all, from what I gather all you do is the same repetive dailies, grinding the same expert dungeons, same zone events for a long time to gear up, then raid once maybe twice a week.

    Now I don't want easy mode or shit handed to me, all I am asking is for something that is actually INTERSTING to do at 60 that lets me earn the gear needed to raid, insted of just redoing the same zone events and crap I been doing from 50 to 60.

    The lack of stuff for lv 60's to do is my only major gripe with Rift

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  • MesfenlirMesfenlir Member Posts: 208

    Although I like rift, last ex-pac was wrong for me.

    Why? Dont take me wrong its a great expansion but the decission to make the 50-60 level race sooo steep kill the game for me. As a altholic i had 3 50´s before the ex-pac (mage-priest- rogue) and one in its 30s.

    I found very very hard to level all to 60.

    Yeah i know thats my problem but still....

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