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Defiance is my top pick for a MMORPG in 2013.

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  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by the420kid

    The defiance engine is OLD.. its apparent from the first moment you play the game this is a seriously old engine, however it is smooth and clean but theres nothing fancy or shiny about it.

    Overall I would say the game is OK but thats it

    I think the success of this game will depend on what serious FPS players (none come to this site) think of the game

    The biggest factor is going to be the TV show, If the show is really really good the game will do well cause as I said its ok but nothing special.  It has some depth in skills growth and cool pve but if the show flops the game flops if the show is a hit then people will get into the game imo

    Heres your so called old engine thats not that old. http://www.havok.com/client-projects/games/defiance

  • royalzetroyalzet Tehachapi, CAPosts: 19Member
    the pc, ps3 and xbox will all have different servers, as microsoft doesn't want xbox players to play with players from other consoles. So, the game is no longer crossplatform.
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Austin, TXPosts: 1,414Member Uncommon
    A lot of the user interface looks to be holdovers from the cross platform development.   Needs some serious work on the GUI for PC.

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • aleosaleos na, INPosts: 1,863Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

    I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

    My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

    you got a source for that? that was one of the questions i kept asking in their twitch stream last night. Then they look at each other and say "not talking about that right now"

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by aleos
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

    I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

    My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

    you got a source for that? that was one of the questions i kept asking in their twitch stream last night. Then they look at each other and say "not talking about that right now"

    only thing i heard about that was they mentioned top guild names could be mentioned or some top players names used in the show.. aside from that i wouldn't expect much as far as the game effecting the series.. now the direction of the series effecting the game is another story but still not sure about that as not much info has been revealed

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  • MardukkMardukk Posts: 1,556Member Uncommon
    Seeing quite a few differing accounts of the game. Some say no meaningful loot or character progression in a pve game.....huh? I hope these people are really wrong. I don't really care what the combat is as long as it has character building and some sort of open world freedom.
  • RecoreRecore Posts: 5,092Member Uncommon
    Played the game for about 30 minutes and that was enough for me.  Already uninstalled and crossed out on my list.
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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Mannish
    Played the game for about 30 minutes and that was enough for me.  Already uninstalled and crossed out on my list.

    unfortunatly same for me but i gave it 9 solid hours but sadly cancelled my pre-order.. will check back maybe after release

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  • RecoreRecore Posts: 5,092Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Mannish
    Played the game for about 30 minutes and that was enough for me.  Already uninstalled and crossed out on my list.

    unfortunatly same for me but i gave it 9 solid hours but sadly cancelled my pre-order.. will check back maybe after release

     

    Preorder? I thought this was going to be a FTP?

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Mannish
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Mannish
    Played the game for about 30 minutes and that was enough for me.  Already uninstalled and crossed out on my list.

    unfortunatly same for me but i gave it 9 solid hours but sadly cancelled my pre-order.. will check back maybe after release

     

    Preorder? I thought this was going to be a FTP?

    think it's b2p.. you can pre-order on amazon.. also it's a cross platform so doubt it would be free on consoles

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • VirgoThreeVirgoThree Tarzana, CAPosts: 1,220Member

    Wait since when is Defiance the only one to be cross platform? FFXI beat them to the punch a long time ago! Also FFXIV:ARR will be cross platform as well. I won't speak ill of anything else you posted, as I haven't tried the game personally.

    Honestly, I'm curious and want to try the game out. But I think I'm going to wait for release and not spoil the experience :)

  • EzhaeEzhae LondonPosts: 737Member
    Originally posted by Mardukk
    Seeing quite a few differing accounts of the game. Some say no meaningful loot or character progression in a pve game.....huh? I hope these people are really wrong. I don't really care what the combat is as long as it has character building and some sort of open world freedom.

    Beta is beta, as they say, but with release date aimed to be close to the TV show launching (April) I don't see much room for improvement (unless they have much more updated build ready and being tested) 

    As for the OP. I don't see how a MMO being cross platform is a good thing. On the contrary, I see it as one of worst things that a MMO can do. Why? Because MMOs live and die on updates, and ocnsoles have certification process for every single patch you want to apply to game. That means, that any fix to gameplay will be delayed because it has to go through beauractic machine of Microsoft. How is that good thing? 

    Another thing, pad vs mouse/keyboard controls in a twitch third person shooter combat. Forced aim assist, not a plus in my book.

    Plus of course ton of other limitations and design choices that come with the game being spread on 3 platform make it a mess on all of them. Dedicated design is always better option. 

     

     

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by steamtank
    as a PC gamer i have no real hope of a cross platform game being exciting. So far any game I have played that from concept was meant to go cross platform has felt childish on a PC.

    The only thing that concerns me is all the kids and obnoxious teens that will be playing it since it will be on PS3 and Xbox. No way I could play it and have to listen to kids chatting about.

    I hope it ends up being a good game, but I'd much rather play with more PC gamers when it comes to this title, the PS3 and Xbox will be a playground.

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  • AlberelAlberel LondonPosts: 1,121Member
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's.

    Just to point out that this is incorrect. FFXI was already cross-platform across all three consoles and FFXIV will also be cross-platform (though excluding the 360 because MS wouldn't allow cross-platform servers). This would also mean the 360 players of Defiance will not be on the same servers as the other platforms because MS simply won't allow it...

  • ezpz77ezpz77 Beale, CAPosts: 227Member
    Originally posted by Tayah
    Originally posted by steamtank
    as a PC gamer i have no real hope of a cross platform game being exciting. So far any game I have played that from concept was meant to go cross platform has felt childish on a PC.

    The only thing that concerns me is all the kids and obnoxious teens that will be playing it since it will be on PS3 and Xbox. No way I could play it and have to listen to kids chatting about.

    I hope it ends up being a good game, but I'd much rather play with more PC gamers when it comes to this title, the PS3 and Xbox will be a playground.

     

    Yeah, because PC gamers are any less obnoxious.

  • ereyethirnereyethirn KaiapoiPosts: 79Member
    Originally posted by Naudica777
    Originally posted by morbuskabis

    Just wonder how the EU ppl will be able to watch the Syfy part. Any news on that?

     

    I didn't know that people in EU didn't have Syfy lol that could be a problem. I guess they could stream the episodes on there website for people who dont have syfy. Though very interesting about the syfy in EU part because I am planning to move there haha.

    This is assuming we can't do anything illegal right? I'm in New Zealand and I plan on pirating it if I cannot get it here.

  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

    I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

    My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

    guess it will be good, but this whole "game influences series" thing is nothing but marketing hype hot air, just like "dynamic events" were some months ago

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ezpz77

    Yeah, because PC gamers are any less obnoxious.

    I'm not saying they're less obnoxious, but with this particular title the kiddies and teens will flock to it with the PS3 and Xbox, I'd only play it if I could play with PC only people, just because there'd be less chance to have to play with kids/teens since most of them will be on their PS3 and Xbox.

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  • xpowderxxpowderx Radcliff, KYPosts: 2,131Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Alberel
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's.

    Just to point out that this is incorrect. FFXI was already cross-platform across all three consoles and FFXIV will also be cross-platform (though excluding the 360 because MS wouldn't allow cross-platform servers). This would also mean the 360 players of Defiance will not be on the same servers as the other platforms because MS simply won't allow it...

    Actually FFXI was only on PC and Sony Playstation 2(2002) up to 2006. Then it was converted to the Xbox in that year. By then the game was already into its deep slide(in the U.S).  While it is the first game to be fully crossplatform. It is not the first mmorpg to crossplatform from day 1. Also, Defiance play will influence the Syfy television series. Which means that Defiance is intregated into all the major media/entertainment vices. Also to note, I mentioned crossplatform on PS3,PC and Xbox 360. Which are the current console systems available. And Defiance is the first mmorpg to crossplatform on all three of those types of systems.

     

  • AmanaAmana New York, NYPosts: 2,538Moderator Uncommon

    Guys, the game is under NDA. Nothing can be posted about your beta experiences until that's lifted. Saying "not to break NDA, but..." is still breaking the NDA.

    You can discuss whatever's been officially released by Trion/SyFy.

    To give feedback on moderation, contact community@mmorpg.com

  • AlberelAlberel LondonPosts: 1,121Member
    Originally posted by xpowderx
    Originally posted by Alberel
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's.

    Just to point out that this is incorrect. FFXI was already cross-platform across all three consoles and FFXIV will also be cross-platform (though excluding the 360 because MS wouldn't allow cross-platform servers). This would also mean the 360 players of Defiance will not be on the same servers as the other platforms because MS simply won't allow it...

    Actually FFXI was only on PC and Sony Playstation 2(2002) up to 2006. Then it was converted to the Xbox in that year. By then the game was already into its deep slide(in the U.S).  While it is the first game to be fully crossplatform. It is not the first mmorpg to crossplatform from day 1. Also, Defiance play will influence the Syfy television series. Which means that Defiance is intregated into all the major media/entertainment vices. Also to note, I mentioned crossplatform on PS3,PC and Xbox 360. Which are the current console systems available. And Defiance is the first mmorpg to crossplatform on all three of those types of systems.

    You never said anyrthing about day 1 in your original post so my point still stands. And FYI FFXI can be played on the PS3 and 360 as well so that point still stands too... so yeah, you're wrong. /shrug With FFXIV just round the corner for PS3 as well I struggle to see how Defiance is going be at all unique on the cross-platform MMO scene. The 360 version can be totally ignored as the servers will be isolated from the others so it's not really 'cross-platform' in the MMO sense.

    The whole 'influences the TV series' is just hot air though... it simply wouldn't be feasible for them to do it. Do you have any idea how much money they would have to waste on filming stuff they wouldn't use if that was remotely true? 

  • RenoakuRenoaku Posts: 1,005Member Uncommon

    I agree I think defiance might top the best mmo of 2013 on release.

    However there are serious questions I have about the game, and given the fact the game is still under NDA I doubt anyone can answer them here so I have to wait to find out more about it but here are my concerns.

    1. Is the game going to be.

     Pay 2 Play.

     Buy 2 Play

     Free 2 Play with cash shop.

    2. If it goes in a style similar to GuildWars 2 will the game become a big failure like Tera, and FunCom TSW with lack of customization and such.

    3. Hackers, IF there is PVP in the game is there any plan to add Anti Hacking to the game, or will this game become just like Fallen Earth with the hackers, and exploiters in PVP when the game comes out.

    I think this will still be the best game of 2013 but it really concerns me, and being that there isn't a lot of info about the game I am debating on if I should PreOrder on game stop. Also I am curious to what the collectors edition actually gets me for $100 gametstop doesn't say.

    I would overall hate to see this game take the same route that Tera, or TSW, or Fallen Earth  with their over priced respecs and costs to customize a character.

    Here are the editions of the game I can buy, what I get for that price I don't know.

    http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-defiance

    http://defiance.com/en/series/ Here is their actual site I see advertised over TV a lot, which to me makes the game look good, I just hope its not a faiilure.

    http://defiance.com/en/game/?CAS_REDIR=true Here is the game site.

  • ReklawReklaw Am.Posts: 6,474Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Naudica777
    Originally posted by morbuskabis

    Just wonder how the EU ppl will be able to watch the Syfy part. Any news on that?

     

    I didn't know that people in EU didn't have Syfy lol that could be a problem. I guess they could stream the episodes on there website for people who dont have syfy. Though very interesting about the syfy in EU part because I am planning to move there haha.

    Yes we have Syfy in Europe, most EU country's have their own syfy channel spoken in their own language

    But While the concept of Defiance is great mixing a MMO together with a live action tv series, I have yet to see how much impact both actually will have on eachother. It's actually the only innovative thing I know/read/seen from Defiance .......

    Let me just say let's not get to over hyped and lets actually see when both are out how well the concept works.

  • ComanComan Hattem, AKPosts: 2,031Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Naudica777
    Originally posted by morbuskabis

    Just wonder how the EU ppl will be able to watch the Syfy part. Any news on that?

     

    I didn't know that people in EU didn't have Syfy lol that could be a problem. I guess they could stream the episodes on there website for people who dont have syfy. Though very interesting about the syfy in EU part because I am planning to move there haha.

    I hvae syfy, but still it wont be on here the same day and that is what you want. Although I do not think you need to watch the series to understand the plot. I do think it might make the game and series more interesting though if you do both and in sync.

  • EzhaeEzhae LondonPosts: 737Member
    Originally posted by Renoaku

    I agree I think defiance might top the best mmo of 2013 on release.

    However there are serious questions I have about the game, and given the fact the game is still under NDA I doubt anyone can answer them here so I have to wait to find out more about it but here are my concerns.

    1. Is the game going to be.

     Pay 2 Play.

     Buy 2 Play

     Free 2 Play with cash shop.

    The game, from all the news I gather, will be Buy to Play, with optional subscription, if you don't pay subscription you have ot buy the DLCs, there is cash shop (as to contents, no idea at this point, expect vanity stuff and boosts)

    2. If it goes in a style similar to GuildWars 2 will the game become a big failure like Tera, and FunCom TSW with lack of customization and such.

    No way to tell at this point.

    3. Hackers, IF there is PVP in the game is there any plan to add Anti Hacking to the game, or will this game become just like Fallen Earth with the hackers, and exploiters in PVP when the game comes out.

    Again, no way to tell at this point. Beta is beta which means a lot of security stuff is not implemented and code may not be fully optimized. 

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