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Defiance is my top pick for a MMORPG in 2013.

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  • steamtanksteamtank Rochester, NYPosts: 385Member
    as a PC gamer i have no real hope of a cross platform game being exciting. So far any game I have played that from concept was meant to go cross platform has felt childish on a PC.
  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,057Member Uncommon
    Its going to be good. Probably better than GW2 even. People will be surprised. Cant wait

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  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member

    I have tried most MMOTPS/FPS in the market. So far Defiance seems to be the most complete of them all. It has taken the good aspects of several other games (Rift, Borderlands, Planetside, even Tabula Rasa) and blends them together. So far it feels like the first real MMORPG with Shooter combat.

    The only other MMO shooter that comes even close is PlanetSide 2, but then PlanetSide 2 has zero PvE, so two completely different markets.

    I think Defiance will do well if Trion manages to deliver a complete/polished product like they did with Rift.

  • dinamsdinams Muriae, VAPosts: 1,362Member

    Rocket spamming on PvP killed defiance for me as an option

    The PvE is fun, but meh, I dont really play a game solely for its PvE

    Well, now onwards to Wildstar I guess

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  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member
    Originally posted by dinams

    Rocket spamming on PvP killed defiance for me as an option

     

    Well, now onwards to Wildstar I guess

    Are you really judging a game by its PvP balance when closed beta just barely got started?

  • dinamsdinams Muriae, VAPosts: 1,362Member
    Originally posted by Krytycal
    Originally posted by dinams

    Rocket spamming on PvP killed defiance for me as an option

     

    Well, now onwards to Wildstar I guess

    Are you really judging a game by its PvP balance when closed beta just barely got started?

    It would need a major overhaul on the rockets to function otherwise

    plus, I added stuff on my post

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  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member
    Originally posted by dinams
    Originally posted by Krytycal
    Originally posted by dinams

    Rocket spamming on PvP killed defiance for me as an option

     

    Well, now onwards to Wildstar I guess

    Are you really judging a game by its PvP balance when closed beta just barely got started?

    It would need a major overhaul on the rockets to function otherwise

    plus, I added stuff on my post

    I'd expect that there will be major overhauls before the game is released. It's obvious to anyone who has PvPed that rocket launchers and other explosive weapons in general are a joke in PvP. I would be surprised if they don't get significant adjustments over the next few patches.

    It seems Defiance is first and foremost a PvE game, sort of like Borderlands. If you don't like PvE then I recommend Planetside 2. 

  • dinamsdinams Muriae, VAPosts: 1,362Member
    Originally posted by Krytycal
    Originally posted by dinams
    Originally posted by Krytycal
    Originally posted by dinams

    Rocket spamming on PvP killed defiance for me as an option

     

    Well, now onwards to Wildstar I guess

    Are you really judging a game by its PvP balance when closed beta just barely got started?

    It would need a major overhaul on the rockets to function otherwise

    plus, I added stuff on my post

    I'd expect that there will be major overhauls before the game is released. It's obvious to anyone who has PvP that that rocket launchers and other explosive weapons in general are a joke in PvP. I would be surprised if they don't get significant adjustments over the next few patches.

    It seems Defiance is first and foremost a PvE game, sort of like Borderlands. If you don't like PvE then I recommend Planetside 2. 

    Its not that I dont like PvE, but I believe that both should coexist equally

    Besides, if they make the overhaul on the rockets I might check back

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  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by deanobeano1
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

    I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

    My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

    its funny you call it top mmorpg. its not even an mmorpg. it was going to be, but they made uturn late development and decided to remove important features.

    youll be dissapointed, as defiance is nothing like rift. at first it sounded like it was going to be. but i know someone testing it and he says they recently made item drops flat across the whole game because they wanted everyone to be equal in pvp. by this i mean an item you find as a noob is your end game equipment. dont expect to find better gear because there is no progression.

    the game could not be more different than rift. the developers think that story and pvp is enough. if you enjoy hunt for better gear, dont bother, there is no hunt for better gear.

    uber fail incoming.

    LOL its a mmorpg and who ever told you about the gear is dead wrong sorry. I can't say much because of the NDA but I love the game and its got some real cool stuff  and some great ideas from a game that people love so much. 

    This game is far from fail.

  • RednecksithRednecksith Madison heights, MIPosts: 1,238Member
    Can't break NDA... but I think Defiance is utter crap. Doesn't help that it runs & looks like shit either. Played 20 minutes and couldn't stand another second of 25 FPS generic action.
  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member
    Originally posted by dinams
    Originally posted by Krytycal
    Originally posted by dinams
    Originally posted by Krytycal
    Originally posted by dinams

    Rocket spamming on PvP killed defiance for me as an option

     

    Well, now onwards to Wildstar I guess

    Are you really judging a game by its PvP balance when closed beta just barely got started?

    It would need a major overhaul on the rockets to function otherwise

    plus, I added stuff on my post

    I'd expect that there will be major overhauls before the game is released. It's obvious to anyone who has PvP that that rocket launchers and other explosive weapons in general are a joke in PvP. I would be surprised if they don't get significant adjustments over the next few patches.

    It seems Defiance is first and foremost a PvE game, sort of like Borderlands. If you don't like PvE then I recommend Planetside 2. 

    Its not that I dont like PvE, but I believe that both should coexist equally

    Besides, if they make the overhaul on the rockets I might check back

    I guess we'll have to wait and see how the PvP turns out in the game. From my experience so far, it seems they're taking the direction of Rift/WoW/SWTOR with most of the PvP being phased/instanced with hotspots in the open world.

    I'm mostly a PvPer and I'm okay with that. I've always though the biggest reason why MMO shooters aren't widely successful is because they are too PvP oriented (i.e. APB, Planetside). With PvE back to the forefront my bet is Defiance will pull in more traditional MMORPG players than any other shooter MMO before.

  • jimdandy26jimdandy26 salem, ORPosts: 527Member

    LOL its a mmorpg and who ever told you about the gear is dead wrong sorry. I can't say much because of the NDA but I love the game and its got some real cool stuff  and some great ideas from a game that people love so much. 

    This game is far from fail.

    Its a pretty mediocre 3rd person shooter with some people around, sometimes. It feels much like Gw2 honestly, you may be playing around others, but you are not playing WITH others. On top of that Trion starts off the story in one of the worst ways possible, telling you that you are a badass instead of making you feel like you are a badass. On top of the squishy gunplay (it feels like its designed for a gamepad, not a mouse and keyboard) and itemization that does not make sense they have a lot of the "little things" to fix that are super important if they truly want the game to be successful.

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  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member
    Originally posted by Rednecksith
    Can't break NDA... but I think Defiance is utter crap. Doesn't help that it runs & looks like shit either. Played 20 minutes and couldn't stand another second of 25 FPS generic action.

    The game ran smooth for me, and while it's no Farcry or Battlefield in terms of visuals, it looks better than most other MMOs in the market.

    Also, what were you expecting the action to be like? It played like every shooter game out there. That was the point. A game for people who are sick of the MMORPG tab combat.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by Rednecksith
    Can't break NDA... but I think Defiance is utter crap. Doesn't help that it runs & looks like shit either. Played 20 minutes and couldn't stand another second of 25 FPS generic action.

    Sorry your computer sucks but its nothing like that for me and it looks good not the best looking game but doesn't look like shit.

  • DeddpoolDeddpool alta loma, CAPosts: 192Member Uncommon
    Just a shooter with mmo elements..not bad, but nothing special.

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  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member
    Originally posted by jimdandy26

    LOL its a mmorpg and who ever told you about the gear is dead wrong sorry. I can't say much because of the NDA but I love the game and its got some real cool stuff  and some great ideas from a game that people love so much. 

    This game is far from fail.

    Its a pretty mediocre 3rd person shooter with some people around, sometimes. It feels much like Gw2 honestly, you may be playing around others, but you are not playing WITH others. On top of that Trion starts off the story in one of the worst ways possible, telling you that you are a badass instead of making you feel like you are a badass. On top of the squishy gunplay (it feels like its designed for a gamepad, not a mouse and keyboard) and itemization that does not make sense they have a lot of the "little things" to fix that are super important if they truly want the game to be successful.

    The game felt nothing like GW2 to me except maybe when it came to rifts/dynamic events. I think it resembles Borderlands the closest. A mix of Borderlands and Rift. The third person shooter combat is nothing to write home about, but I'd take it over tab combat any day.

    I do agree with you that there are a lot of things that will need fixing so I guess we'll have to wait and see if they actually do.

  • PigEyePigEye campbellsville, KYPosts: 78Member

    Nothing more than a gimmick.

     

    Those playing should be concerned about the shows ratings. When they go, so shall the game.

     

    Count on it.

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  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by jimdandy26

    LOL its a mmorpg and who ever told you about the gear is dead wrong sorry. I can't say much because of the NDA but I love the game and its got some real cool stuff  and some great ideas from a game that people love so much. 

    This game is far from fail.

    Its a pretty mediocre 3rd person shooter with some people around, sometimes. It feels much like Gw2 honestly, you may be playing around others, but you are not playing WITH others. On top of that Trion starts off the story in one of the worst ways possible, telling you that you are a badass instead of making you feel like you are a badass. On top of the squishy gunplay (it feels like its designed for a gamepad, not a mouse and keyboard) and itemization that does not make sense they have a lot of the "little things" to fix that are super important if they truly want the game to be successful.

    Not sure how its mediocre, it feels like a 3rd person shooter to me and it feels nothing like GW2 in anyway. I don't get the gamepad feel when playing the game. The menus are designed for the gamepad so its easier for the console group but not the game play it feels spot on with the mouse and keyboard. Still haven't played a mmo where I need a group right on that back, nothing new with that.

    As of right now I don't see to many problems at all. Its fun different and thats what this genre needs 

  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member
    Originally posted by Maitrader
    Originally posted by xpowderx

    Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

    I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

    My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

    [mod edit]

     

    It's almost as if they were intentionally using the beta to find bugs in an unfinished product.

    Quite the travesty.

  • aslan132aslan132 Tampa, FLPosts: 378Member Uncommon

    Im actually hoping the show fails honestly. It will open up alot more options for the game. As of right now, the game takes place in San Fransisco and the show will be in St. Louis. 

     

    They are keeping them separate indefinately, so that they can show "cross-over" through dialogue, but thats the only influence you will see between them. It was never meant to be more than something written into the script at the last minute. The shows plots and direction are predetermined, so if you expect more influence like determining the direction of the show itself you are very naive. Its not even something they would be arrogant enough to claim.

     

    So if the show succeeds, they have to make sure the show locations and the game locations never cross paths. Now if the show fails, they can expand the game, anywhere they want, without having to worry about the nerds raging if a building or landmark is/isnt the way it was in the show. 

     

    I give them big props for trying something different, and Im sure its going to be a fun gimmick, but thats all it is, and it will soon wear thin on people. All new shiny toys get old, and lately thats been sooner rather than later.

  • Effin_RabbitEffin_Rabbit Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 773Member Uncommon
    Forget Miss Cleo im coming here to get my fortune read next time, heads must get heavy with all that knowledge trapped inside of them its a good thing you have a place to release those rays of brilliance.
  • DeniZgDeniZg ZagrebPosts: 669Member Uncommon

    The game runs great for me, on my 2 year old gaming laptop. Much better than GW2, to be honest.

    Without breaking NDA, all I can say is that this game will appeal to console/borderlands fans who would like to experience some MMO in a shooter game. I can't see it being interesting to tradional MMO fans, especially the fantasy genre fans, of course. 

    However, due to market saturation with tab target fantasy MMO's, Defiance might fare better than expected. 

     

  • the420kidthe420kid Hamilton, ONPosts: 440Member Uncommon

    The defiance engine is OLD.. its apparent from the first moment you play the game this is a seriously old engine, however it is smooth and clean but theres nothing fancy or shiny about it.

    Overall I would say the game is OK but thats it

    I think the success of this game will depend on what serious FPS players (none come to this site) think of the game

    The biggest factor is going to be the TV show, If the show is really really good the game will do well cause as I said its ok but nothing special.  It has some depth in skills growth and cool pve but if the show flops the game flops if the show is a hit then people will get into the game imo

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by aslan132

    Im actually hoping the show fails honestly. It will open up alot more options for the game. As of right now, the game takes place in San Fransisco and the show will be in St. Louis. 

     

    They are keeping them separate indefinately, so that they can show "cross-over" through dialogue, but thats the only influence you will see between them. It was never meant to be more than something written into the script at the last minute. The shows plots and direction are predetermined, so if you expect more influence like determining the direction of the show itself you are very naive. Its not even something they would be arrogant enough to claim.

     

    So if the show succeeds, they have to make sure the show locations and the game locations never cross paths. Now if the show fails, they can expand the game, anywhere they want, without having to worry about the nerds raging if a building or landmark is/isnt the way it was in the show. 

     

    I give them big props for trying something different, and Im sure its going to be a fun gimmick, but thats all it is, and it will soon wear thin on people. All new shiny toys get old, and lately thats been sooner rather than later.

    So what your saying is that trion and syfy are not smart enough to hold a event in game then do a episode based on what we did or did not do? Yep that would be impossible. How about this, lets not assume that you no this to be fact and lets wait and see sounds goos to me :)

  • OnomasOnomas Rock Hill, SCPosts: 1,128Member Uncommon
    This, The Repopulation, and AA are the three im looking forward to this year.
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