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  • cronius77cronius77 Fairfax, VAPosts: 1,347Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Stizzled

    I've read through your idiegogo proposal, as well as your post history, and all I can say is wow. I don't believe that your intentionally trying to scam, but a scam is exactly what this is.

     

    Your first game was never completed because of money issues, leaving you with nothing but the art assets.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4965200#4965200

     

    Your second game was supposedly nearly complete, you just lacked the funding to market it. The concept of this almost finished game sounds quite similar to this one, what ever happend with it?

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4965007#4965007

     

    Based on your previous game developement history, it looks like any money given to you will be wasted. You seem to think that your going to get someone else to create a quaility game for you on the cheap, allowing you to do nothing but rake in the dough and come up with more ideas. I'm sorry, but that just isn't how game development works, especially indie game development.

     

    People such as yourself hontestly anger me. There are people like me, who have ideas for games, games that we think could be great. I myself have been going to school for the past few years studying game design and programming, creating small games and trying to teach myself the basics of pixel art and 3D modeling in my free time. i have ideas that I want to get out of my head and into the hands of gamers around the world, and I'm actually doing something about it.

     

    Then you have people such as yourself, who have an idea, and instead of putting in the hard work to make it happen you just want to skip everthing and get someone else to do it for you. What's even worse is you want other people to fund this crap for you. You don't want to put in any of the work, you don't want to put in any of your money. You just want someone to do everything for you because you are so special and your game idea is the best ever, I mean you have a GDD afterall. You make me sick.

     

    I'm sorry if that was overly harsh, I just get tired of seeing these "best MMO ever" idea threads pop up every week. This was the first time that I've ever seen one come with a crowd funding attempt attached, it just left a rotten taste in my mouth.

    better get used to it man as with these new kickstarter sites coming up now its only a matter of time before people actually start getting really scammed for tons of money until like most other older sites that used to do similiar , have to pull the plug because legit companies cannot get funding for fear of everyone thinking they are shady and scammers to.

    Remember when craigslist was actually safe for everyone ? where you could buy and sell without fear of being scammed or robbed? lol its only a matter of time before the crooks and cons find a way to do the same with this stuff and rake in 1000s. I know i personally wouldnt fund a dime of my hard earned money to a bunch of wishes and lazy people who cannot even bother learning enough to make a demo or put out some actual work.

  • JacxolopeJacxolope Jackson, MIPosts: 924Member
    Originally posted by cronius77
    Originally posted by Stizzled

    I've read through your idiegogo proposal, as well as your post history, and all I can say is wow. I don't believe that your intentionally trying to scam, but a scam is exactly what this is.

     

    Your first game was never completed because of money issues, leaving you with nothing but the art assets.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4965200#4965200

     

    Your second game was supposedly nearly complete, you just lacked the funding to market it. The concept of this almost finished game sounds quite similar to this one, what ever happend with it?

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4965007#4965007

     

    Based on your previous game developement history, it looks like any money given to you will be wasted. You seem to think that your going to get someone else to create a quaility game for you on the cheap, allowing you to do nothing but rake in the dough and come up with more ideas. I'm sorry, but that just isn't how game development works, especially indie game development.

     

    People such as yourself hontestly anger me. There are people like me, who have ideas for games, games that we think could be great. I myself have been going to school for the past few years studying game design and programming, creating small games and trying to teach myself the basics of pixel art and 3D modeling in my free time. i have ideas that I want to get out of my head and into the hands of gamers around the world, and I'm actually doing something about it.

     

    Then you have people such as yourself, who have an idea, and instead of putting in the hard work to make it happen you just want to skip everthing and get someone else to do it for you. What's even worse is you want other people to fund this crap for you. You don't want to put in any of the work, you don't want to put in any of your money. You just want someone to do everything for you because you are so special and your game idea is the best ever, I mean you have a GDD afterall. You make me sick.

     

    I'm sorry if that was overly harsh, I just get tired of seeing these "best MMO ever" idea threads pop up every week. This was the first time that I've ever seen one come with a crowd funding attempt attached, it just left a rotten taste in my mouth.

    better get used to it man as with these new kickstarter sites coming up now its only a matter of time before people actually start getting really scammed for tons of money until like most other older sites that used to do similiar , have to pull the plug because legit companies cannot get funding for fear of everyone thinking they are shady and scammers to.

    Remember when craigslist was actually safe for everyone ? where you could buy and sell without fear of being scammed or robbed? lol its only a matter of time before the crooks and cons find a way to do the same with this stuff and rake in 1000s. I know i personally wouldnt fund a dime of my hard earned money to a bunch of wishes and lazy people who cannot even bother learning enough to make a demo or put out some actual work.

    What angers me is that I plan on using Kickstarter to help fund my game. Its not an MMO but an RPG and is no way ready to be placed on kickstarter at this time because...Well...I made the placeholder graphics myself and they are pretty damn terrible if I do say so myself 

    (not trying to "push my non existant game- Just showing that I am really working on one and not just talking smack)

    -Anyhow, by the time I am in a position to try to get some funding the scam artists will have people too scared to give a dime and it will hurt legitamite people .

    -And it pisses me off.

  • wartyxwtwartyxwt margatePosts: 172Member
    Originally posted by mcool

    do you know what even sadder?  the fact none of you bothered to read my indiegogo campaign proposal and have jumped to all sorts of conclusions.

    Yeah, I did that. But you insulted me and then asked for money, even though your insult was based off an entirely different demographic. I hope you can work out what you did wrong.

  • tharkthark FalunPosts: 1,147Member Uncommon

    As someone already mentioned, why not save a few hundred dollars each month and fund your own project, since all you need is 5500 dollars ?

    No one feels confident in you, you are angry and aggressive ..So many people in this thread are "actually" trying to help you, you know..tips and hints is also "donations" of sorts. You should take these tips in consideration, some of them are valueble.

    And all you do is blame and accuse, and feel sorry for yourself etc..

    I can gladly tell you that I'll pay for AAA game titles, and I watch huge movies like Avatar and The Hobbit, because they entertain me, with high budgets and lots of nice scenery and state of the art graphics. On the other hand, if a indie producer or game developer can set up a game that can hold my interesst I will gladly support it. I had much fun in Terraria for example

    2012 has been the year we have seen so many indie titles rise, some even sold more than the AAA market. Things like Greenlight on STEAM all indicates that the small time developers also get's their chance now more than ever. Every month my gaming magazine report and review indie titles, and some of them get's much higher scores than the AAA titles.

    Then we have the backside, titles like WAR Z , that tries to get money for half finished products

  • atuerstaratuerstar melbournePosts: 234Member
    Originally posted by Jacxolope

    they couldnt continue because i had paid so little for the devlopement.. i tried my best to get a good deal but obviously it backfired.. it is still thier fault since we agreed on finishing the game

    -And that about sums it up.

     

    His profile also claims he is in his 30s so youth is not an excuse here...

     

    Now I feel bad for even trying to help and be constructive. In my defense he really did sound like an arrogant 16 year old with big idea's and no real clue.

  • DibdabsDibdabs FelvershamPosts: 2,604Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mcool
    how is it offputting, its the reality.. people arent looking or supporting indie games. 

    Far too many are long on promise and short on delivery.  The few good game that are made are swamped by oceans of dross, some of which fail to even get released.  I used to like Kickstart, for example, but it's overrun by wannabe game makers who have little talent.

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