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  • dimnikardimnikar ZanistanvillePosts: 271Member
    Originally posted by evilastro
    I would say WoWs population is closer to 2.5 million in the west, they only sold 2.7 mil of the expansion and some of those would have left already.

    In the first week. They sold 2,7 in the first week.

    Which is nearly as much as GW2 sold in 4 months. To paint a picture.

     

    I'm not denying GW2 is a success sales-wise, but let's not delude ourselves here. In pure numbers it doesn't beat WoW, not even in the west - YET.

  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    It was a expansion, 95% who were ever going to get it would have gotten it in the first week.
  • dimnikardimnikar ZanistanvillePosts: 271Member
    Originally posted by evilastro
    SWTOR is a lot smaller in size so it probably seems more populated, also it's free. I can't run more than 10m in GW2 without seeing another player.

    Yeah slip up there, meant 2012. And GW2 was consistently higher in the charts than WoWs expansion after its launch week, so yeah I'd say it sold more. Blizzard would have announced 3 mil if they had hit it.

    GW2 was not in the top 100 all format over the holidays, while MOP was. Pretty important season for games.

     

    Also, why would Blizzard report a new figure after only 300k sales (2,7-3 mil)? Does that make any sort of sense?

  • dimnikardimnikar ZanistanvillePosts: 271Member
    Originally posted by evilastro
    It was a expansion, 95% who were ever going to get it would have gotten it in the first week.

    Like it never happened with the previous expansions? They all sold at least a million more beyond the first week.

     

    Also - their figure didn't include asian sales either, which people tend to forget. They reported the 2,7 million the day they released in the East.

     

    Some funny figuring you guys are doing, I'll tell you that. It'll be a fun day quoting this thread come early Feb when Blizz reports their Q4.

  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    GW2 was higher than MOP on the PC chart, why would multi format be any different?
  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by evilastro
    It was a expansion, 95% who were ever going to get it would have gotten it in the first week.

    not really.  you only need the expansion for level 86-90 stuff, or the monk class.  you can play a panda just fine without it.  so it's quite possible that many people, would have chosen to wait to buy it until they actually needed it, probably a month away at least (getting a panda to 85).

    You make me like charity

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by evilastro
    GW2 was higher than MOP on the PC chart, why would multi format be any different?

    What PC chart is that?

     

    A PC chart SWTOR ranks higher than GW2, namely the Star Wars chart.

     

    It's all about perspective.

     

    BOTTOM LINE:  GW2 getting awards is as meaningful as SWTOR getting awards last year.  Hipp Hipp Horrayy!

     

    SWTOR got game of the year 2011.  Quite a game.  SWTOR is a perfect game and the measures to judge game qualities are fair and accurate.

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  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    As I said earlier, no metric or review will satisfy the haters. This conversation is a bit pointless as your goal posts will just keep shifting. The game is successful and popular. Lurking in the GW2 forums being a troll won't make your preferred game more popular or successful.
  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by evilastro
    As I said earlier, no metric or review will satisfy the haters. This conversation is a bit pointless as your goal posts will just keep shifting. The game is successful and popular. Lurking in the GW2 forums being a troll won't make your preferred game more popular or successful.

    I challenge you on that in <red>. Of all my real-life friends who play computer games, I now know 1 of 10 who currently plays Guild Wars 2 (who also played it).  The other 9 are mixed into going back to older games, or none at all.

     

    Popular?  Not where I live.

     

    2 play PS2 (shiver), some went back to their old games (EQ2 & WoW) .. and a few more are with me, just waiting for either ArcheAge or EverQuest Nect .. whichever comes first.

     

    GW2 just isn't a game that someone stays with.  It's rather boring.  The first couple weeks it was cool .. but after you see that every zone is like the last .. every mob is like the last (with a new name) .. every zone is just a big square .. no interaction (or little interaction) with other players and Mmmphh .. game isn't for me.

     

    Dynamic Events are also a snooze fest .. Hey escort this unknown important dude .. hey collect some crap for this unimportant dude  .. hey defend this unimportant town from this unimportant wave of attacks!!   Yup that pretty much sums up GW2 lore.  Lore is what binds you to a game, talk to WoW fans.

     

    GW2 lore is .. ohh brave warrior defends, and valiant knight comes forward!!  EPIC!!!!!  Come to think of it, this game should get an academy award!  The side story plots (dynamic events) carry this plot forward!

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  • OnomicOnomic TønsbergPosts: 196Member
    Originally posted by boxsnd
    Originally posted by Onomic

    3 million sales is pretty damn good for any genre on pc.

    I stopd playing gw2 after i hit 80, but so far its my favorite mmorpg. Most i quit long befor i hit the cap. Just waiting for an expansion pack now.

    I you didn't play an MMO for 2+ years either you didn't like it or it isn't an MMO. Stop lying to yourself.

    Thats pretty ignorant. I playd a few mmorpg i liked and i never lasted 1 year in em even. You need to have a certain personality to last that long in any game no matter how much you like em.

  • mikahrmikahr ZagrebPosts: 1,066Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by evilastro
    No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

    Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

     

    My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

    Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

    SWTOR has 23 WORLDWIDE.

    GW2 has 51 only in the WEST (US+EU)

    You obviously played heck out of GW2, i can tell.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by evilastro
    No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

    Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

     

    My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

    Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

    SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

     

    And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
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    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • mikahrmikahr ZagrebPosts: 1,066Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by evilastro
    No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

    Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

     

    My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

    Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

    SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

     

    Your SWTOR count is OK, we know it flopped and had 2 rounds of server merges. OTOH your GW2 count is...

    Oh, and i did count Oceanic servers....which ARE actual a ghost towns and whole Oceanic community is literaly begging to merge those...

    Originally posted by Karteli

    SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

     

    And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

    Im sure reading about it was great, wasnt it.

    While SWTOR has more players in starting areas (being F2P) number drops rapidly after Tatooine.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by evilastro
    No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

    Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

     

    My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

    Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

    SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

     

    Your SWTOR count is OK, we know it flopped and had 2 rounds of server merges. OTOH your GW2 count is...

    Oh, and i did count Oceanic servers....which ARE actual a ghost towns and whole Oceanic community is literaly begging to merge those...

    My GW2 count is ...   ... you were saying?

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  • mikahrmikahr ZagrebPosts: 1,066Member
    Originally posted by Karteli

    My GW2 count is ...   ... you were saying?

    That you have no idea what youre talking about.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli

    My GW2 count is ...   ... you were saying?

    That you have no idea what youre talking about.

    I see.

     

    But, if ArenaNet shifts their "full" server status down from 100% to 25%, such that servers are still "full" at peak times, that is OK.

     

    It's all in the wording apparently.. well see through the bottom line - ArenaNet adjusted their threshholds already multiple times.  Full on launch was several thousand players .. now it's a couple thousand.

     

    So, if EA reduces the server threshhold for their SWTOR game thats one thing.

     

    Lets see, if EA reduces their server threshhold to 500 players for "FULL", and they fill all 20 servers at "FULL" with queue times, will that impress you?

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
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  • mikahrmikahr ZagrebPosts: 1,066Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli

    My GW2 count is ...   ... you were saying?

    That you have no idea what youre talking about.

    I see.

     

    So, if EA reduces the servers for their SWTOR game thats one thing.

     

    But, if ArenaNet shifts their "full" server status down from 100% to 25%, such that servers are still "full" at peak times, that is OK.

     

    It's all in the wording apparently.. well see through the bottom line - ArenaNet adjusted their threshholds already multiple times.  Full on launch was several thousand players .. now it's a couple thousand.

     

     

    Lets see, if EA reduces their server threshhold to 500 players for "FULL", and they fill all 20 servers at "FULL" with queue times, will that impress you?

    Now point where did i mention ANYTHING about thresholds/whatever and your strawman can live.

    OTOH saying GW2 has 10 servers is....nothing about wording but just brings a question about you and GW2.

    Everyone who reads can judge for themselves how much weight your words carry. Especially since you also managed to mention SWTOR...in the same context lol

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli

    My GW2 count is ...   ... you were saying?

    That you have no idea what youre talking about.

    I see.

     

    So, if EA reduces the servers for their SWTOR game thats one thing.

     

    But, if ArenaNet shifts their "full" server status down from 100% to 25%, such that servers are still "full" at peak times, that is OK.

     

    It's all in the wording apparently.. well see through the bottom line - ArenaNet adjusted their threshholds already multiple times.  Full on launch was several thousand players .. now it's a couple thousand.

     

     

    Lets see, if EA reduces their server threshhold to 500 players for "FULL", and they fill all 20 servers at "FULL" with queue times, will that impress you?

    Now point where did i mention ANYTHING about thresholds/whatever and your strawman can live.

    OTOH saying GW2 has 10 servers is....nothing about wording but just brings a question about you and GW2.

     

    Where I live, when someone says you have no idea what you are talking about, there is no need to mention specifics.  It is inclusive. <red> both times above.

     

    Meh, I'll probably not check back on this thread.. I find GW2 topic unproductive and boring, honestly.  /peace

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  • mikahrmikahr ZagrebPosts: 1,066Member
    Originally posted by Karteli 

    Where I live, when someone says you have no idea what you are talking about, there is no need to mention specifics.  It is inclusive. <red> both times above.

     

    Where i live we actually stay to the discussion and dont make strawmen to divert attention for you being awfully wrong about GW2 server number, something that every player goes through when first starting the game. Which you obviously didnt do, you just missinformed yourself somewhere that GW2 has 10 servers.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli 

    Where I live, when someone says you have no idea what you are talking about, there is no need to mention specifics.  It is inclusive. <red> both times above.

     

    Where i live we actually stay to the discussion and dont make strawmen to divert attention for you being awfully wrong about GW2 server number, something that every player goes through when first starting the game. Which you obviously didnt do, you just missinformed yourself somewhere that GW2 has 10 servers.


    Whatever you say, it has massive servers, like SWTOR used to .  Or it has 15 or 20 servers ..it was small. So nyah nyah .. whatever.  Is that what you wanted?

     

    The server count is small, from what I saw.

     

    Each server is dead, from what I saw.

     

    My observation.  Good day.

     

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
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  • waynejr2waynejr2 West Toluca Lake, CAPosts: 4,479Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Warband
    Guild Wars 2 has sold over 3 million copies since its August, according to an update on the MMO’s website from director Colin Johanson, who also outlined the team’s 2013 plans for the title starting with expanding and leveraging the achievement system.
     
     
    So now that the game has sold 3 million, what are peoples opinions on it's relative success or dissapointments in comparison to recent themepark mmo's and people, still playing there views on the state of the game.

     Well, it's only 3million.  In a pre-wow universe it would be amazing.  In a post-wow universe, well, not so much.

  • mikahrmikahr ZagrebPosts: 1,066Member
    Originally posted by Karteli


    Whatever you say, it has massive servers, like SWTOR used to .  Or it has 15 or 20 servers ..it was small. So nyah nyah .. whatever.  Is that what you wanted?

     

    The server count is small, from what I saw.

     

    Each server is dead, from what I saw.

     

    My observation.  Good day.

     

    Yes, server count is "whatever i say" lol

    Its easy to just log in and count it yourself, one thing that you obviously CANNOT do.

    Have a nice day.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,829Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by waynejr2
    Originally posted by Warband
    Guild Wars 2 has sold over 3 million copies since its August, according to an update on the MMO’s website from director Colin Johanson, who also outlined the team’s 2013 plans for the title starting with expanding and leveraging the achievement system.
     
     
    So now that the game has sold 3 million, what are peoples opinions on it's relative success or dissapointments in comparison to recent themepark mmo's and people, still playing there views on the state of the game.

     Well, it's only 3million.  In a pre-wow universe it would be amazing.  In a post-wow universe, well, not so much.

    Still no other western MMORPG was able to gather that many in the west.

    Currently playing: GW2
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  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli


    Whatever you say, it has massive servers, like SWTOR used to .  Or it has 15 or 20 servers ..it was small. So nyah nyah .. whatever.  Is that what you wanted?

     

    The server count is small, from what I saw.

     

    Each server is dead, from what I saw.

     

    My observation.  Good day.

     

    Yes, server count is "whatever i say" lol

    Its easy to just log in and count it yourself, one thing that you obviously CANNOT do.

    Have a nice day.

    Thanks for explaining that to me, in a way that myself and everyone can understand.  Have a fabulous night.

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,829Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by mikahr
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by evilastro
    No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

    Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

     

    My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

    Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

    SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

     

    And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

    According to XFire metrics SWTOR has less than half the players.

    Currently playing: GW2
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