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Some kind of help needed!

GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon

Me again! This time with a new kind of topic. These are some important things, so do mind your answers.

I am currently at one month of playing and I still don't have what you would call "main" character. But later about that. I have more pressing concerns.

In human starting zones(Queensdale+Kessex Hills) I can't find anything to keep up the pace. Compared to Wayfarer Foothills it is slow as a snail and it even has tracts of terrain where there is NOTHING-well maybe some creep or like that. Again, Wayfarer guide you from one place to the other in a "groundpounding" rhytm-that's what I like. Then again I like humans but the zones are so drab. Are they really so badly designed(haven't tried Charr or Asura starting zones, Caledon Forest is ok)?

In general in PvE I tend to just get stuck and keep doing nothing. I feel like cutting of quests is a bad decision(they should've just thinned them). Hearts are ok, but they should work with quests and not without them. DEs->I don't really like them. They just keep repeating over and over and over again. Nay, they are really bad replacement for quests->they provide just bare context instead of ample descriptions of quests. I LOVE to read and to imagine, I do not like this experience yourself cr@p. Must be personality issue.

What follows when I get stuck is I must basically grind crafting or go do Hearts that are above me(PvP does not interest me in mmos). I should be doing content of my level and not above or below my level. Nay, I feel that ANet has LOOOONG way to go concerning PvE. Is really drab.

Lack of grouping(I don't consider those DE gimmicks grouping) also bothers me very much. I feel like just another DPS, no matter what I spec into. That the skills are balanced around sPvP doesn't help either(use of PvE/PvP skill split would be justified here->I don't want to have skills that inflict 3s of daze with no dmg on a 30+s recharge->that's just stupid).

Concerning classes:

I like mobility, fortitude, condition damage and depth of combat. Versatility is good to have as well. Melee and come and hit me! is a big no no. I don't care if the class is currently UP or OP(well I don't want OP, UP is ok). Are my Norns good match(Ranger, Engineer and Elementalist)?
If so, any other advices(what to try next and what to avoid)?
I have thief but he is the epitome of skill and agility(Black Powder doesn't hurt either :D) and I like him.
Then again I like Knights, hm(maybe I should be Knight in essence and not in form?)...

I'd like you to concentrate on the first issue the most. Because I can't find this PvE enjoyable. Without that I can't play MMORPG. Second part is optional since I have my norns so I am ok. I'd like to hear your thoughts there as well. Overall I like this game, but some segments are really drab and even subpar to the standard MMO tropes.

Thank You!

Comments

  • aejoriiaejorii SF, CAPosts: 26Member

    If I am understanding this correctly.. why not just move your human character to level in the norn areas? I think the only downside is that you have to travel back to human areas if you want to do the story stuff. But as far as hearts/DE's, you can do them anywhere.

     

    And from a personal experience, Human areas have a reaaaally bad DE flow at certain spots. I find it best for me to diversify my leveling areas. It keeps it interesting and I get a better leveling flow.

  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,396Member Uncommon

    Why do you want to do content of your level? Just go to any area that's of your level or less. You'll get downscaled. Actually, I prefer exploring areas that are below my level, because you can just run around them without worrying about the enemies' levels. If you want dialogue or descriptions, talk to any named NPC. They always have something to say and are often quite talkative.

    Elementalist and Thief are probably the most mobile professions in the game, but they're also squishy in direct combat. A profession that's mobile and tanky would probably be OP in GW2.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,830Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gorwe

    Me again! This time with a new kind of topic. These are some important things, so do mind your answers.

    I am currently at one month of playing and I still don't have what you would call "main" character. But later about that. I have more pressing concerns.

    In human starting zones(Queensdale+Kessex Hills) I can't find anything to keep up the pace. Compared to Wayfarer Foothills it is slow as a snail and it even has tracts of terrain where there is NOTHING-well maybe some creep or like that. Again, Wayfarer guide you from one place to the other in a "groundpounding" rhytm-that's what I like. Then again I like humans but the zones are so drab. Are they really so badly designed(haven't tried Charr or Asura starting zones, Caledon Forest is ok)?

    In general in PvE I tend to just get stuck and keep doing nothing. I feel like cutting of quests is a bad decision(they should've just thinned them). Hearts are ok, but they should work with quests and not without them. DEs->I don't really like them. They just keep repeating over and over and over again. Nay, they are really bad replacement for quests->they provide just bare context instead of ample descriptions of quests. I LOVE to read and to imagine, I do not like this experience yourself cr@p. Must be personality issue.

    What follows when I get stuck is I must basically grind crafting or go do Hearts that are above me(PvP does not interest me in mmos). I should be doing content of my level and not above or below my level. Nay, I feel that ANet has LOOOONG way to go concerning PvE. Is really drab.

    Lack of grouping(I don't consider those DE gimmicks grouping) also bothers me very much. I feel like just another DPS, no matter what I spec into. That the skills are balanced around sPvP doesn't help either(use of PvE/PvP skill split would be justified here->I don't want to have skills that inflict 3s of daze with no dmg on a 30+s recharge->that's just stupid).

    Concerning classes:

    I like mobility, fortitude, condition damage and depth of combat. Versatility is good to have as well. Melee and come and hit me! is a big no no. I don't care if the class is currently UP or OP(well I don't want OP, UP is ok). Are my Norns good match(Ranger, Engineer and Elementalist)?
    If so, any other advices(what to try next and what to avoid)?
    I have thief but he is the epitome of skill and agility(Black Powder doesn't hurt either :D) and I like him.
    Then again I like Knights, hm(maybe I should be Knight in essence and not in form?)...

    I'd like you to concentrate on the first issue the most. Because I can't find this PvE enjoyable. Without that I can't play MMORPG. Second part is optional since I have my norns so I am ok. I'd like to hear your thoughts there as well. Overall I like this game, but some segments are really drab and even subpar to the standard MMO tropes.

    Thank You!

    Didn't have that problem - the human zones are really good and seem to be some of the most popular.

    The humans zones are very non-linear though.

    Well the advantage of DEs is that you don't need to imagine because it is happening.

    Talk with the scouts, talk with the NPCs (since you like reading). Conjugating that with your personal story and the DE's you will understand why things are happening.

    Also linger a bit after a DE finish and agressively stalk DE NPCs - often they will lead to other DEs and offer interesting stories/lore.

    Lore in GW2 is optional so you will have to work for it and get all the pieces.

    For example do you ever wonder why the bandits are burning the farms in Queensdale?

    Doesn't make much sense until you do the personal story.

    Or why are bandits poisoning the water?

    One of the personal stories deal with the bandits acquiring the poison and why they want to use it.

     

    Sorry but grouping for questing in an MMORPG is not something very common in the biggest MMORPGs. At least in GW2 you play around other people.

    3s DAze is awesome - you can prevent a ton of damage and deal a ton of damage in that time, and also be 3 seconds closer to your self heal recharge or have regained enough endurance to dodge.

    Elementalists are very versatile as long as you keep shifting elements and the Engineer can be dull if you go towers or more interesting if you have kits.

    Even though you don't like melee both warrior and guardians have ranged weapons (longbow and rifle for warrior) and magic (guardian).

    I thing the guardian would surprise you.

    Mesmer can also an option, with cunning use of images and conditions.

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon

    And the Guardian is the biggest disappointment. I really don't find him fun even tho I have awesome chivalrous character ready for such a role. Idk...

    I want linear. Yes I said it. I want to be pulled-I don't like wandering around Like a plonker wondering what the Bloody hell is he doing. I Like strong narration and I Like emotion/thought provoking storylines. I see RPGs as a way to make some book/story more interactive at the opportunity cost of intricate details that are fed to you by the art team(in the book you can imagine anything within context-I LOVE that part). Exploration is fine, but I don't want to go somewhere unless MY CHARACTER has a reason to go there-and without story, there is really no reason. That's where Wayfarer/Snowden shine, you see. They pull you Like a magnet, while human zones leave you floating around.

    Nay, even races are meh. Humans are weak, deluded and totally unbelievable. Charr shouldn't even be playable-I don't Like them even a single bit(Like feline mix of Orcs and Dwarfs). Asura are smartass and just the type of race I'd punch just for the sake of it(and I am pacifist mind you!). Sylvari are too alien+I don't want to play as mr.Tulip or mrs.Orchif or even more outrageous-mr.Cabbage. The only good race that I can relate to are Norns. For whatever reason. This is coming from an Elf lover and a Knight lover...


    Come to think of it-is this game even for me? I mean it has loads of nice ideas, but each of those ideas needs further iteration(Plate mail Crusaders dodging around-just lol!). They have begun the revolution but who will be the Main benefactor of it? Obviously playerbase, but between companies? ANet? Zenimax Online? Trion? Hell even Bli$$ard? In other words-the one who finishes what ANet set out to do...

    Big shame.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,830Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gorwe

    And the Guardian is the biggest disappointment. I really don't find him fun even tho I have awesome chivalrous character ready for such a role. Idk...

    I want linear. Yes I said it. I want to be pulled-I don't like wandering around Like a plonker wondering what the Bloody hell is he doing. I Like strong narration and I Like emotion/thought provoking storylines. I see RPGs as a way to make some book/story more interactive at the opportunity cost of intricate details that are fed to you by the art team(in the book you can imagine anything within context-I LOVE that part). Exploration is fine, but I don't want to go somewhere unless MY CHARACTER has a reason to go there-and without story, there is really no reason. That's where Wayfarer/Snowden shine, you see. They pull you Like a magnet, while human zones leave you floating around.

    Nay, even races are meh. Humans are weak, deluded and totally unbelievable. Charr shouldn't even be playable-I don't Like them even a single bit(Like feline mix of Orcs and Dwarfs). Asura are smartass and just the type of race I'd punch just for the sake of it(and I am pacifist mind you!). Sylvari are too alien+I don't want to play as mr.Tulip or mrs.Orchif or even more outrageous-mr.Cabbage. The only good race that I can relate to are Norns. For whatever reason. This is coming from an Elf lover and a Knight lover...


    Come to think of it-is this game even for me? I mean it has loads of nice ideas, but each of those ideas needs further iteration(Plate mail Crusaders dodging around-just lol!). They have begun the revolution but who will be the Main benefactor of it? Obviously playerbase, but between companies? ANet? Zenimax Online? Trion? Hell even Bli$$ard? In other words-the one who finishes what ANet set out to do...

    Big shame.

    Obviously it is a combination of magic armor and super strenght.

    Warhammer 40K: Space Marine a good example of a plate male powered armor super human (genetic and surgery enhancement) dodging.

    For someone that likes to imagine I sense a disturbing lack of imagination.

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    Oh lol have you just compared typical Fantasy lowlife to a Space Marine???

    Guy whose DNA is resequenced? So he can be the best combatant there is?

    No comment
  • KingJigglyKingJiggly Simpsonville, SCPosts: 777Member
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    Oh lol have you just compared typical Fantasy lowlife to a Space Marine???

    Guy whose DNA is resequenced? So he can be the best combatant there is?

    No comment

    No different than comparing lotr with sw...

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    Who did that?

    I certainly wouldn't do that...
  • zastrophzastroph UranganPosts: 242Member
    If you go to the main city in the game (take the short cut through the pvp arrival zone), you will find portals to most of the starting zones, where you can mix and match to level up!
  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    Meh. Ditch that! I've given up on way larger things than lame wars(I will not even call it Guild Wars, for the Sequel DOES NOT D.E.S.E.R.V.E. that name). So fk this piece of shit! There's web full of games waiting to be played...

    This game is too 14-18 year old oriented as is. Cabbage people, Mole people, cow/cat interbreeds, Polar Bears, ... Where is my Gritty GW1? I, for one, can't imagine Fall of Ascalon in GW2-It'd be too Dark/harrowing for pimply teenagers. Meh...

    What baffles me the most? They forgot the loot! YEAH! In an MMO! What were they thinking!??? And then they forgot RPG mechanisms. I don't know even how to call lame wars-ULG perhaps(Ultra Lame game?)...
  • erinyserinys middelburgPosts: 388Member Uncommon
    you dont want to be helped, get you head out of your ass already.
  • xm522xm522 Miami, FLPosts: 114Member Uncommon

    I actually thought this was going to be an honnest post about someone needing help with the game... I've never been more wrong in my life.

    OP you sound like your mind about the game was made up long long long time ago. Simply see no reason for you to make this thread other than to grab attention. sorry to seem rude, but that's a serious pathologthatical/psychological problem and i suggest you get that checked (dont feel alone, many posters in this forum suffer from the same thing).

    anyways hope you find a game you enjoy.

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    So I am sick because I don't Like a game that you do...?

    What has the world come to...

    And I'd rather be dead than insane/on pills. There is no way I am giving my mind over to Chaos...
  • Br3akingDawnBr3akingDawn a City, CAPosts: 1,361Member Uncommon
    If its boring you, just explore or move to another zone. Every zone isnt always perfect and filled with stuffs to do every inch. And if your done with a zone and not high enough for another higher lvl zone, maybe you can consider repeating some events when people shout and ask for help, you can lend a hand and get exp. I think the PVE side of the game is not all about just one heart after another. Its about exploring helping and maybe find some friends along the way. Events can be repeated if your behind too, you dont have to craft. I have a character I basically leveled 1-50 just from Queensdale :|.

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  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    So I am sick because I don't Like a game that you do...?

    What has the world come to...

    And I'd rather be dead than insane/on pills. There is no way I am giving my mind over to Chaos...

    You should really hear all the people rallying around with a collective "awwwwww" at the sound of your departure.  We were really hoping to keep you in the fold.  Shuckers. You can't possibly imagine how long you will be missed.

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon

    Hell, just one example why GW sucks. I want positional, tactful combat. In GW it is spam spam spam. Really mindless. And no, you can come and defend GW all you want but that is the truth. GW is a bland Zerg/spamfest mix of confusion and half finished mechanics.

    However, since my Life is dull and basically comes to Down to PC n tellie n books, I'll stay. Maybe it gets better with upcoming patches. Who knows right?

  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,396Member Uncommon
    Ah, so your opinion is the truth, Great One? Alright, we'll keep that in mind.
  • alkarionlogalkarionlog SPosts: 1,125Member Uncommon

    ok op since you missed my post on the last topic you started I will repost here so you can read again.

     

    ok to fix this I need you to follow this steps, ok?

    first close all programs, and shut off your computer.

    second go out and go for a walk, after that call a friend and try to spend time having fun far your computer (or go on a date, that would be better)

    third step, go sleep take a rest you sure will need.

     

    FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
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  • IndromeIndrome NortheimPosts: 292Member

    "Some kind of help" is definitely needed on this one. But I don't think it can be given via the computer.

     

    Gorwe, want the truth? GW2 is not for you. Try TSW or Tera (once it goes F2P). You'll be happier for it.

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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Gorwe

    Hell, just one example why GW sucks. I want positional, tactful combat. In GW it is spam spam spam. Really mindless. And no, you can come and defend GW all you want but that is the truth. GW is a bland Zerg/spamfest mix of confusion and half finished mechanics.

    However, since my Life is dull and basically comes to Down to PC n tellie n books, I'll stay. Maybe it gets better with upcoming patches. Who knows right?

     

    Spamfest? No wonder you don't like it... you don't know what you're doing! If you're spamming skills on cooldown you are, quite simply, doing it wrong. The skills have multiple elements to them, many of them are better used tactically than off cooldown. You actually need to learn the skills and what they do as well as consider when best to use them to be most effective and to really get into the flow of the combat system.

     

    Oh... you want positional... many skills are effected by position greatly. You can use terrain to block things from hitting you, you even have skills that do more damage or have different effects based on your relative position to the foe.

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    OMG these fanbois!!!

    I can play it casually but it is so far from GW 1 that I find it an insult. I'll just delete it(what-another garbage game, it's not the first and it's definitely not the last).

    TSW is much Like GW1 yes?

    TERA does not interest me. Asian art(if I wanted that, I'd go Aion actually).

    If there only was a good Warhammer Fantasy game present, so I can sink 4 or so years into it(Like I did with DoW)...
  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    OMG these fanbois!!!

    I can play it casually but it is so far from GW 1 that I find it an insult. I'll just delete it(what-another garbage game, it's not the first and it's definitely not the last).

    TSW is much Like GW1 yes?

    TERA does not interest me. Asian art(if I wanted that, I'd go Aion actually).

    If there only was a good Warhammer Fantasy game present, so I can sink 4 or so years into it(Like I did with DoW)...

    Well... shouldn't you delete it and be gone then? Why delay, wasting this time trolling the forums looking for other haters to reinforce your negativity? Delete, take care, and good like finding a game more to your liking that will give you the years you want to spend there.

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    Because I have nothing else to do(sad fact).
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