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SWTOR adding Same-Gender-Romance to "some" NPC's (Gay, Lesbian romance)
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didnt you know? if the option is there, then they are forced to choose it. they cant help themselves and that scares them
Humans and Bothans? That's sick, I can not accecpt that. I need to start a Bothan hate group now.
What I see has nothing to do with norms. You can't say what is the norm, or what isn't the norm for someone you have never met. I have just never cared about nosing into peoples personal lives. I have more important things to do than wonder what people are doing in their bedrooms. If I am not in that bedroom then it is none of my business. I don't have time for anyone that is only one thing. If your straight fine. If your gay fine. Neither one of those things determines the type of person you are. If someone is so small of a person that they only have one thing to identify them as a person then I really have no use for that person. I don't think romancable NPC relationships belong in games either. MMO's are supposed to be about player interaction. I do have friends who met their spouses in games so I have no issue with that. I just don't understand why people want to spend time developing a one sided relationship with an NPC. Especially an NPC that is going to create controversy. No point to it. Some parents aren't comfortable with their kids seeing this. Real fixes where needed in this game, and this is just junk that causes more issues.
As I said, there isnt a single rational reason to be against same sex relations in a game but not opposite sex relations. Whatever his reason is, it can't possibly be rational because no such reason exists.
Again, if he is opposed to relationships in a 'kids game', I would disagree but I would understand why he could think this. But he doesnt seem to have an issue with whats currently in the game.
I agree that npc romances in an MMORPG is stupid. To me its a perfect example of what has gone wrong with the genre. But there is a difference between people who complain only about one type of npc romance.
If you need to break RoC to make your argument I'm not so sure you actually have a valid argument...
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Right here, friend.
It also happened in other Star Wars games, which are indeed canon.
And those people are sorry excuses for human beings, honestly. What happened to tolerance? It's optional content that Little Johnny doesn't have to play.
Futhermore I think it speaks volumes about a person that they'd let their kids play a game where you can torture people, but they're willing to ban the game only when they add optional content that Little Johnny won't access unless he specifically wants to. Those scary "gays", amirite?
It's not even same sex really. If I'm playing a female character and I want to do the romance option.....I don't want to romance the guy toon. That to me would be weird....well weirder than romancing a character at all :P
Nothing non-pg even happens in the romance options but it does lead to other character quest lines. I didn't do any of those options on my 2 female characters because I didn't want to chat up the guy NPC.
This is actually a major annoyance of mine. I really dislike anyone who tells me I need to be more accepting and tolerent, but insults and belittles people for believing in something different from them. Not aiming that at anyone, just speaking of people in general. You support gay marriage? cool. You don't support it? cool. I have my own opinion and I hate anyone that tries to force theirs on me or tells me that mine is "wrong".
here is what is getting to me. people are acting like this is some thing that must of taken alot of resources and time to add over putting in some new features. all it is, is a few extra dialogue options that are added to some quest npcs. thats all this really is. do i think romance options are needed at all for either one, no as they are mostly useless(although the results of some in the have yielded some funny dialogues later on or in the case of tropper made for very difficult decision of who to save). now if they had gone through all the companions to do this, then yea i wouldnt be thrilled as that would take quite a bit of time. which is exactly why they said that wont be coming for some time. so as a start there are a few extra dialogue options with some quest npcs on the new planet that if chosen will lead to a fade to black. im thinking that wasnt all that time comsuming and detracting from other features
I don't see why people can't understand that calling someone an intolerent bigot because they don't like something makes you an intolerent bigot because you are literally being intolerent of them. If someone is actively spreading hate, then more power to you, but if a regular person just says that they don't like gay marriage then that's their right and it doesn't make them wrong.
Is this link a joke? The only thing I see is what appears to be an automated reply from their facebook page. Even the authenticity of that is questionable. So if I contact the NRA about helping my community stock up for the zombie apocolypse, and their reply is similar, then they are taking me seriously?
Your argument is still silly. Disney also owns Marvel, and there are tons of gay super heroes. Just recently they celebrated the marriage of two men on the cover of a comic, actually. As for Star Wars being a family franchise, that's debateable. Star Wars is violent, features death, and in the recent movies even some pretty memorable dismemberment, not to mention the semi-final moments of Anakin. However, even if none of that were true, your 'family' argument would still be irrelevant; gay people have, want, and enoy families too, or did you assume they're all bumping and grinding at a club? Shopping, maybe? Finally, the game was never aimed at children, and while certain Star Wars franchises (i.e., the Legos/Clone series) were aimed at younger audiences, there were plenty of companion novels with more adult content not to mention the KOTOR games which dealt with things far above the heads of youth. In other words, not "family-friendly."
I could go on.
Edit - the above aside, I agree with what some others have said. This seems like oddball content to be working on when they have bigger fish to fry.
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Seems to be a good step in being accepted in who you are, is by accepting who they are? Some people can not accept the idea, believe it to be morally wrong or whatever. In fact adding a feature like this might actually be upsetting to people, while I doubt not having same gender stuff in a game would be upsetting at all. I mean if a game had only same gender I would not be offended or feel that someone is attacking my personality. While I could be offended if someone in a game add something that I would find morally wrong.
I never said his argument doesn't matter. I said it's just probably not valid. As in an argument that makes no sense or is a logical fallacy or something.
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I think you just skipped over what I said when you say my "buzz word".
If someone was truly tolerant, then they wouldn't ban their child from a game because it has that in there. The key point here is that the game will NOT be pushing it down the player's throat, it'll be something they'll have to go out and get on their own.
If you can't see how it's intolerant to draw a line in the sand about something because it merely "exists", then I'm not sure what to tell you. Tolerance is disagreeing with it and simply avoiding it, whereas intollerance is trying to have it removed or not exist entirely.
Reminds me of back in the day when they started segregating schools, and all those parents wanting to rip Little Johnnie out of school because there'd be black kids there. I'm sure they were actually tolerant, but just not accepting, amirite?
I bought at release and cancelled 1 day later. I occasionally keep an eye out for possible improvements, since I can't return the software to Fry's, but more and more it seems like EA/Bio is putting a gun to my head and saying "Don't you DARE resub!"
I mean, can anyone think of a more completely useless feature to add to a game that already teters on the edge of suck?
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous