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World of Warcraft: MOBA Feature Coming in v5.2?

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  • SirFubarSirFubar SeoulPosts: 397Member

    Originally posted by InFlamestwo

    Originally posted by darkrain21
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Originally posted by ichihaifu
    Originally posted by GeekieDave
    If people are going to complain and say that they are trying to milk everything they can out of this game, You need to rethink about where World of Warcraft actually came from. Warcraft started as a MOBA game and was a huge hit. I personally look at this new feature to be a homeage to what they were like once and where they have made it to now!

    Warcraft was not a MOBA game lol. Term MOBA was created for the mod called Defence of the Ancients map that was created for Warcraft 3.

     

    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Blizzard is doing everything ArenaNet is doing. Doesn't surprise me at all.

    This has nothing to do with ArenaNet dude, dont bring them to this topic.

    -

    Honestly I just want from the bottom of my heart for WoW to just die off already. Its existence itself is destroying many other games that come out that try to imitate it, not that its a good thing itself, but they only try to imitate WoW because its what it is, a giant of a game that has the attention of practically everyone of this world. If it didnt exist, we would have other innovative games. Thankfully we're slowly breaking out of copy-the-wow world of gaming we're so used to seeing.

    Dont get me wrong here, I loved the game for 6 long years, but now its just boring to me as I've already seen everything wow itself has to offer, but it hasnt really presented us anything new during the past couple of years. That is why I feel like it HAS to retire, so that Blizzard could make something new and maybe even better than WoW itself was.

     

    It has. ArenaNet brought up a MOBA gamemode to PvP a long time ago, now WoW want to try to get into e-sport aswell. Milking that cow for years now and still doing it. Icefrog should put a stop to Blizzard.

    Wow is already an e-sport and has been since before LoL made an apperance and GW2 got denied because it didnt have a diverse enough PVP system.

    WoW is not in e-sport, not even close. GW2 will go into e-sport soon, GW1 was in e-sport.

    WoW was in esport, it just stopped at a certain point because of various reasons. GW2 MIGHT be an esport when they will be able to add all the content that is missing in PvP. GW1 wasn't an esport whatsoever, sure it had some tournaments with cash prizes and some ladder on ESL, but it was never an esport. I've never seen someone getting paid to play GW1. If people playing the game aren't paid professional, then the game is not an esport.

    Originally posted by InFlamestwo

    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

    So Blizzard copied C&C with Warcraft1/2/3, Which spawned DOTA, which was copied by Anet, and now fans of Anet are claiming Blizzard is copying them??? Pot-Kettle-Black

    lol bingo. They don't see the irony in it. It's hilarious.

    Fixed that for you. (with a lie)

    C&C release 1995

    Warcraft release 1994

    Explain how they copied C&C? Using telepathic powers? crystal ball?   :)

    Please refrain from spreading lies.

    Yeahk, I should have just credited Westwood and not C&C in particular.  Blizz did totally rip off the Westwood.  Please at least be honest about Blizz and the fact they rarely innovate and most every single one of their design moves is reactionary to what other games are doing.

    You are correct sir. They are known to rip off idea and they rarely innovate.

    But for some reason people think Blizzard ripped off Anet, because it make them feel better I guess. When in actuality a more plausible assumption is they ripped off LoL. The same people Anet are ripping off as well. 

    LoL is the worst MOBA that exist. HoN, Dota and Bloodline Champions are the only ones worth mentioning.

     

    Edit: Yes they are ripping off Anet by adding a dota style gamemode to their PvP. ArenaNet announced they are working on one about 1 year ago or maybe longer. All blizzard do is competing with other games and adding similar types of content to keep their players interested and so they can say other developers rip off their features.

    LoL is actually the biggest esport on the planet. Sure its still the easiest MOBA compared to DOTA or HoN but you can't deny the fact that its the most played game and the biggest esport.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,680Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ichihaifu
    Milkin everything out of the cashcow yo

    Actually, it's rather brilliant and something a lot of players probably want but don't know it yet. I'm not talking about DotA specifically, but the ability to have one login, one persistent stable of characters and a plethora of games to play with them. All the resources you've accumulated shared across each of the games. They could add plenty of games within World of Warcraft and most of them would have an equal or greater appeal than one someone would have to create a new login for, roll new characters for and pay extra for.

    muvfuxxin brilliant. To go to what's probably an extreme, think PlayStation Home with progression, or Steam with a 3D world for its client.

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
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  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member
    Originally posted by SirFubar

    Originally posted by InFlamestwo

    Originally posted by darkrain21
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Originally posted by ichihaifu
    Originally posted by GeekieDave
    If people are going to complain and say that they are trying to milk everything they can out of this game, You need to rethink about where World of Warcraft actually came from. Warcraft started as a MOBA game and was a huge hit. I personally look at this new feature to be a homeage to what they were like once and where they have made it to now!

    Warcraft was not a MOBA game lol. Term MOBA was created for the mod called Defence of the Ancients map that was created for Warcraft 3.

     

    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Blizzard is doing everything ArenaNet is doing. Doesn't surprise me at all.

    This has nothing to do with ArenaNet dude, dont bring them to this topic.

    -

    Honestly I just want from the bottom of my heart for WoW to just die off already. Its existence itself is destroying many other games that come out that try to imitate it, not that its a good thing itself, but they only try to imitate WoW because its what it is, a giant of a game that has the attention of practically everyone of this world. If it didnt exist, we would have other innovative games. Thankfully we're slowly breaking out of copy-the-wow world of gaming we're so used to seeing.

    Dont get me wrong here, I loved the game for 6 long years, but now its just boring to me as I've already seen everything wow itself has to offer, but it hasnt really presented us anything new during the past couple of years. That is why I feel like it HAS to retire, so that Blizzard could make something new and maybe even better than WoW itself was.

     

    It has. ArenaNet brought up a MOBA gamemode to PvP a long time ago, now WoW want to try to get into e-sport aswell. Milking that cow for years now and still doing it. Icefrog should put a stop to Blizzard.

    Wow is already an e-sport and has been since before LoL made an apperance and GW2 got denied because it didnt have a diverse enough PVP system.

    WoW is not in e-sport, not even close. GW2 will go into e-sport soon, GW1 was in e-sport.

    WoW was in esport, it just stopped at a certain point because of various reasons. GW2 MIGHT be an esport when they will be able to add all the content that is missing in PvP. GW1 wasn't an esport whatsoever, sure it had some tournaments with cash prizes and some ladder on ESL, but it was never an esport. I've never seen someone getting paid to play GW1. If people playing the game aren't paid professional, then the game is not an esport.

    Originally posted by InFlamestwo

    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

    So Blizzard copied C&C with Warcraft1/2/3, Which spawned DOTA, which was copied by Anet, and now fans of Anet are claiming Blizzard is copying them??? Pot-Kettle-Black

    lol bingo. They don't see the irony in it. It's hilarious.

    Fixed that for you. (with a lie)

    C&C release 1995

    Warcraft release 1994

    Explain how they copied C&C? Using telepathic powers? crystal ball?   :)

    Please refrain from spreading lies.

    Yeahk, I should have just credited Westwood and not C&C in particular.  Blizz did totally rip off the Westwood.  Please at least be honest about Blizz and the fact they rarely innovate and most every single one of their design moves is reactionary to what other games are doing.

    You are correct sir. They are known to rip off idea and they rarely innovate.

    But for some reason people think Blizzard ripped off Anet, because it make them feel better I guess. When in actuality a more plausible assumption is they ripped off LoL. The same people Anet are ripping off as well. 

    LoL is the worst MOBA that exist. HoN, Dota and Bloodline Champions are the only ones worth mentioning.

     

    Edit: Yes they are ripping off Anet by adding a dota style gamemode to their PvP. ArenaNet announced they are working on one about 1 year ago or maybe longer. All blizzard do is competing with other games and adding similar types of content to keep their players interested and so they can say other developers rip off their features.

    LoL is actually the biggest esport on the planet. Sure its still the easiest MOBA compared to DOTA or HoN but you can't deny the fact that its the most played game and the biggest esport.

    It doesn't matter if it's big, Justin bieber is big and he's not a legend or a memoreable singer. LoL will be forgotten soon. Dota and HoN are the true mobas.

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  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member
    Originally posted by Myrdynn

    what I get from this 

    ANet announced they are gonna do something

    Blizzard said good idea

    ANet years later still working on it allegedly

    Blizzard has the system in place.

    Everything in the MMO universe is copied from something.  Im not a huge Blizzard fan, but I will say they still have the best combat engine (response time is instant) , and are the best at implementing and perfecting ideas

    Guild Wars 2 has does absolutely NOTHING innovative, not 1 thing

     

     

    ArenaNet have innovated alot more with GW1 and GW2 than Blizzard have ever done with WoW. WoW's good innovations was dungeon finder and talent trees.

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  • KinkykelKinkykel DevonportPosts: 4Member
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Originally posted by Myrdynn

    what I get from this 

    ANet announced they are gonna do something

    Blizzard said good idea

    ANet years later still working on it allegedly

    Blizzard has the system in place.

    Everything in the MMO universe is copied from something.  Im not a huge Blizzard fan, but I will say they still have the best combat engine (response time is instant) , and are the best at implementing and perfecting ideas

    Guild Wars 2 has does absolutely NOTHING innovative, not 1 thing

     

     

    ArenaNet have innovated alot more with GW1 and GW2 than Blizzard have ever done with WoW. WoW's good innovations was dungeon finder and talent trees.

    Name 2 things Arena Net have innovated in their games that hasn't already been done in the genre. I'll sit here and wait while you rummage around.

  • black_isleblack_isle IstanbulPosts: 239Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kwintpod
    God I hate mobas

    Seconded. I hate MOBAs and the culture it cultivates.

  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Beaumont, CAPosts: 1,518Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kinkykel
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Originally posted by Myrdynn

    what I get from this 

    ANet announced they are gonna do something

    Blizzard said good idea

    ANet years later still working on it allegedly

    Blizzard has the system in place.

    Everything in the MMO universe is copied from something.  Im not a huge Blizzard fan, but I will say they still have the best combat engine (response time is instant) , and are the best at implementing and perfecting ideas

    Guild Wars 2 has does absolutely NOTHING innovative, not 1 thing

     

     

    ArenaNet have innovated alot more with GW1 and GW2 than Blizzard have ever done with WoW. WoW's good innovations was dungeon finder and talent trees.

    Name 2 things Arena Net have innovated in their games that hasn't already been done in the genre. I'll sit here and wait while you rummage around.

     

    still waiting, fwiw Asheron's Call 2 did talent trees

  • IzikIzik Granite Bay, CAPosts: 111Member
    Mobas = Lazy, dumb downed RTS games  that are killing any chance of the Industry producuing innovative MMO pvp.
  • Sovren1Sovren1 camarillo, CAPosts: 312Member

    Just to let everyone know who doesn't know, Guild Wars 2 did in fact release a moba style map during the Halloween event to test the waters. It was called Reapers Rumble. Google it.

    Anyhow, does it matter what mechanic makes into w/e game or who copied who? Be pleased that developers are making content for gamers to mess around in. It ain't that serious. Play what you like.

    I hope WoW last another 10yrs. I hope GW2 last 10yrs.

    If WoW brings in this game mode, maybe it'll hit thier next MMO out the door. More content means more satisfied gamers, which is all I really care about.

  • LionexxLionexx Lindale, TexasPosts: 679Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Serenes
    Originally posted by Lionexx
    Originally posted by Serenes
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

    So Blizzard copied C&C with Warcraft1/2/3, Which spawned DOTA, which was copied by Anet, and now fans of Anet are claiming Blizzard is copying them??? Pot-Kettle-Black

    lol bingo. They don't see the irony in it. It's hilarious.

    Fixed that for you. (with a lie)

    C&C release 1995

    Warcraft release 1994

    Explain how they copied C&C? Using telepathic powers? crystal ball?   :)

    Please refrain from spreading lies.

    Yeahk, I should have just credited Westwood and not C&C in particular.  Blizz did totally rip off the Westwood.  Please at least be honest about Blizz and the fact they rarely innovate and most every single one of their design moves is reactionary to what other games are doing.

    You are correct sir. They are known to rip off idea and they rarely innovate.

    But for some reason people think Blizzard ripped off Anet, because it make them feel better I guess. When in actuality a more plausible assumption is they ripped off LoL. The same people Anet are ripping off as well. 

    They are reacting to GW, LoL, and DoTA.  GW1 was a wildly successful esport and GW2 I think is very popular and Blizz wants to keep players focused on what they offer.

    Yes because Blizzard does not already have control one of the biggest if not the biggest Esport game. GW1 was mildly successful at best.

     

    The fact of the matter is Blizzard made a map editor with SC and WC3 that did not come with most good RTS of the time, not even speaking of the stolen models names and item mechnics, that DOTA and AoS benefited from. Do you truly believe it would have been as easy to make DOTA without Blizzard?

     

     

    I don't like alot of the things that Blizzard has done lately, but they did not steal anything from ArenaNet. Lets talk about game mechanics that Anet is stealing.

     

    Siege PvP - Countless Games.

    Dynamic Events - Funny how this happened after rift, strickly speaking Trion did say it first, and sense you wanted to say Blizzard copied this Idea from them then, well there you go. Guild Wars 2 did do DEs with more grace.

    Player Driven Story - Oh goddd this has been done by everyone.

    Well, just about anything Guild Wars 2 does has been done, its just wrapped up and made to look pretty. It is no better then Blizzard after all ArenaNets management is all ex-Blizzard.

     

    Do some research please, Blizzard had copyed game's workshop to start with (AKA Warhammer) 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_Workshop(1975) Vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment (1991)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle (1983?)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000 (1987?)

    But really when it comes down to it Games workshop got there influance from Tolkin and prior writers.

     

    If you dig deeper you would know that warcraft would NEVER exist if game's workshop and blizzard didn't ever team up to make a video game to begin with. Just do some research, you might find a lot. :)

    Did anything I said lead you to believe I did not already know this?

    I know Blizzard benefited from other companies work.

    That is my point that Blizzard is no more a copy cat then any other game company, a good idea is a good idea.

     

     

    Does it make you feel smart to say "Do research" when the research you told me to do had nothing to do with the topic in which I was talking about? If it was related it was obscure.

     

    But as far as I can see I did not say "BLIZZARD COPIED NO ONE ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHER WISE IS A LIAR AND A NITT WITT." No what I said is Blizzard is no more guilty of coping then ArenaNet/Riot/Bioware/etc/etc. I do defend WoW but I defend it on factual evidence of the game, I have no plans to deny WoW has copied endless amounts of mechanics but if you can blame one without seeing the others then they are blind and ignorant and all I wanted to do was educate them on the fact, that everyone does it.

     

    I apologize, I should have stated my statment wasn't to you; It was to everyone else that had commented about things which they know nothing about. So please calm down i was in more of an agreement with you and adding what iknow to the collective pool to help other people learnabout something before opening there fatmouths.

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    I have played every MMO that has ever come out.

  • LionexxLionexx Lindale, TexasPosts: 679Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Myrdynn
    Originally posted by Kinkykel
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Originally posted by Myrdynn

    what I get from this 

    ANet announced they are gonna do something

    Blizzard said good idea

    ANet years later still working on it allegedly

    Blizzard has the system in place.

    Everything in the MMO universe is copied from something.  Im not a huge Blizzard fan, but I will say they still have the best combat engine (response time is instant) , and are the best at implementing and perfecting ideas

    Guild Wars 2 has does absolutely NOTHING innovative, not 1 thing

     

     

    ArenaNet have innovated alot more with GW1 and GW2 than Blizzard have ever done with WoW. WoW's good innovations was dungeon finder and talent trees.

    Name 2 things Arena Net have innovated in their games that hasn't already been done in the genre. I'll sit here and wait while you rummage around.

     

    still waiting, fwiw Asheron's Call 2 did talent trees

    Asheron's call 2, Greatest MMO ever :D

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    I have played every MMO that has ever come out.

  • SerenesSerenes johnson city, TNPosts: 352Member
    Originally posted by Lionexx
    Originally posted by Serenes
    Originally posted by Lionexx
    Originally posted by Serenes
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

    So Blizzard copied C&C with Warcraft1/2/3, Which spawned DOTA, which was copied by Anet, and now fans of Anet are claiming Blizzard is copying them??? Pot-Kettle-Black

    lol bingo. They don't see the irony in it. It's hilarious.

    Fixed that for you. (with a lie)

    C&C release 1995

    Warcraft release 1994

    Explain how they copied C&C? Using telepathic powers? crystal ball?   :)

    Please refrain from spreading lies.

    Yeahk, I should have just credited Westwood and not C&C in particular.  Blizz did totally rip off the Westwood.  Please at least be honest about Blizz and the fact they rarely innovate and most every single one of their design moves is reactionary to what other games are doing.

    You are correct sir. They are known to rip off idea and they rarely innovate.

    But for some reason people think Blizzard ripped off Anet, because it make them feel better I guess. When in actuality a more plausible assumption is they ripped off LoL. The same people Anet are ripping off as well. 

    They are reacting to GW, LoL, and DoTA.  GW1 was a wildly successful esport and GW2 I think is very popular and Blizz wants to keep players focused on what they offer.

    Yes because Blizzard does not already have control one of the biggest if not the biggest Esport game. GW1 was mildly successful at best.

     

    The fact of the matter is Blizzard made a map editor with SC and WC3 that did not come with most good RTS of the time, not even speaking of the stolen models names and item mechnics, that DOTA and AoS benefited from. Do you truly believe it would have been as easy to make DOTA without Blizzard?

     

     

    I don't like alot of the things that Blizzard has done lately, but they did not steal anything from ArenaNet. Lets talk about game mechanics that Anet is stealing.

     

    Siege PvP - Countless Games.

    Dynamic Events - Funny how this happened after rift, strickly speaking Trion did say it first, and sense you wanted to say Blizzard copied this Idea from them then, well there you go. Guild Wars 2 did do DEs with more grace.

    Player Driven Story - Oh goddd this has been done by everyone.

    Well, just about anything Guild Wars 2 does has been done, its just wrapped up and made to look pretty. It is no better then Blizzard after all ArenaNets management is all ex-Blizzard.

     

    Do some research please, Blizzard had copyed game's workshop to start with (AKA Warhammer) 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_Workshop(1975) Vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment (1991)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle (1983?)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000 (1987?)

    But really when it comes down to it Games workshop got there influance from Tolkin and prior writers.

     

    If you dig deeper you would know that warcraft would NEVER exist if game's workshop and blizzard didn't ever team up to make a video game to begin with. Just do some research, you might find a lot. :)

    Did anything I said lead you to believe I did not already know this?

    I know Blizzard benefited from other companies work.

    That is my point that Blizzard is no more a copy cat then any other game company, a good idea is a good idea.

     

     

    Does it make you feel smart to say "Do research" when the research you told me to do had nothing to do with the topic in which I was talking about? If it was related it was obscure.

     

    But as far as I can see I did not say "BLIZZARD COPIED NO ONE ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHER WISE IS A LIAR AND A NITT WITT." No what I said is Blizzard is no more guilty of coping then ArenaNet/Riot/Bioware/etc/etc. I do defend WoW but I defend it on factual evidence of the game, I have no plans to deny WoW has copied endless amounts of mechanics but if you can blame one without seeing the others then they are blind and ignorant and all I wanted to do was educate them on the fact, that everyone does it.

     

    I apologize, I should have stated my statment wasn't to you; It was to everyone else that had commented about things which they know nothing about. So please calm down i was in more of an agreement with you and adding what iknow to the collective pool to help other people learnabout something before opening there fatmouths.

    Oh then I appolgize.

  • LeviathonlxLeviathonlx Cleveland, OHPosts: 135Member
    Originally posted by Sovren1

    Just to let everyone know who doesn't know, Guild Wars 2 did in fact release a moba style map during the Halloween event to test the waters. It was called Reapers Rumble. Google it.

    Anyhow, does it matter what mechanic makes into w/e game or who copied who? Be pleased that developers are making content for gamers to mess around in. It ain't that serious. Play what you like.

    I hope WoW last another 10yrs. I hope GW2 last 10yrs.

    If WoW brings in this game mode, maybe it'll hit thier next MMO out the door. More content means more satisfied gamers, which is all I really care about.

     

    To be fair Blizzard showed the concept of the MOBA BG when they announced MoP during 2011.

  • LionexxLionexx Lindale, TexasPosts: 679Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Leviathonlx
    Originally posted by Sovren1

    Just to let everyone know who doesn't know, Guild Wars 2 did in fact release a moba style map during the Halloween event to test the waters. It was called Reapers Rumble. Google it.

    Anyhow, does it matter what mechanic makes into w/e game or who copied who? Be pleased that developers are making content for gamers to mess around in. It ain't that serious. Play what you like.

    I hope WoW last another 10yrs. I hope GW2 last 10yrs.

    If WoW brings in this game mode, maybe it'll hit thier next MMO out the door. More content means more satisfied gamers, which is all I really care about.

     

    To be fair Blizzard showed the concept of the MOBA BG when they announced MoP during 2011.

    TO be fair, This map was created long before MoP and was in the works as a new BG for wotlk or cata can't remember, I think cata, It was going to be a new type of CTF(Read what i said, NEW type of CTF, Not CTF but a NEW type of it) but they dumped the idea until now when they oh this map if reworked a little bit could do something else" which it did..

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  • red_cruiserred_cruiser Milwaukee, WIPosts: 472Member Uncommon
    I'd actually like to see a MOBA in a MMORPG; provided it's presented in a traditional format.
  • MarirranyaMarirranya Ortario, OHPosts: 154Member

    like sort of a battleground?

    I dunno how you can merge MOBA into a MMO but i think it would be interesting :P

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  • Konner920Konner920 Noble, OKPosts: 293Member
    Originally posted by expresso
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
     

    So Blizzard copied C&C with Warcraft1/2/3, Which spawned DOTA, which was copied by Anet, and now fans of Anet are claiming Blizzard is copying them??? Pot-Kettle-Black

    lol bingo. They don't see the irony in it. It's hilarious.

    Fixed that for you.

    It's not like Blizz isn't in the copy / paste business which I think was the point.  Even if not, Blizz does a ton of copy / paste.  This is most certainly in direct response to the popularity of GW2 and the mobas.  If they had really been interested in integrating it into the game just as an improvement then they could have done so long ago.  They didn't and the timing is telling.

    Blizz deserves some criticism.  It doesn't seem like they have a focused design goal anymore.  They seem to be taking the SoE approach of "add it in, bolt it on, and see if it works".  The pokemon pet battles is one of the latest examples of this.  I'm sure they're fun and the moba system probably will be too, but let's be honest about what they're reaching for here and why.

     

    cept C&C was relased a year after WC..... but anyway Blizzard are keeping up with trends - they might not be driving them but they sure do know what is hot and what is not and prompty provides their player base with what they want, thats good business no?

    To correct you both, not sure if anyone has, Dune and Dune II is where blizzard got the influence for warcraft. As Dune II is essentially the game that actually kickstarted the RTS genre.

  • AoriAori Carbondale, ILPosts: 1,886Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Konner920
    Originally posted by expresso
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Nevulus
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
     

    So Blizzard copied C&C with Warcraft1/2/3, Which spawned DOTA, which was copied by Anet, and now fans of Anet are claiming Blizzard is copying them??? Pot-Kettle-Black

    lol bingo. They don't see the irony in it. It's hilarious.

    Fixed that for you.

    It's not like Blizz isn't in the copy / paste business which I think was the point.  Even if not, Blizz does a ton of copy / paste.  This is most certainly in direct response to the popularity of GW2 and the mobas.  If they had really been interested in integrating it into the game just as an improvement then they could have done so long ago.  They didn't and the timing is telling.

    Blizz deserves some criticism.  It doesn't seem like they have a focused design goal anymore.  They seem to be taking the SoE approach of "add it in, bolt it on, and see if it works".  The pokemon pet battles is one of the latest examples of this.  I'm sure they're fun and the moba system probably will be too, but let's be honest about what they're reaching for here and why.

     

    cept C&C was relased a year after WC..... but anyway Blizzard are keeping up with trends - they might not be driving them but they sure do know what is hot and what is not and prompty provides their player base with what they want, thats good business no?

    To correct you both, not sure if anyone has, Dune and Dune II is where blizzard got the influence for warcraft. As Dune II is essentially the game that actually kickstarted the RTS genre.

    Eh warcraft was more influenced by warhammer than anything. Blizzard only used the momentum from westwood to push their own RTS games.

  • expressoexpresso mePosts: 2,183Member Uncommon
    I think the response from blizzard more or less means there wont be a MOBA BG in 5.2 - maybe it will be a headline feature of the new expansion which we might get some info about at blizzcon this year.
  • WabbaWayWabbaWay Posts: 101Member
    MOBA? The already have MOBAs in the form of BGs, they're just adding a DOTA version to their roster of MOBAs.

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  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member
    Originally posted by red_cruiser
    I'd actually like to see a MOBA in a MMORPG; provided it's presented in a traditional format.

    Except WoW's combat doesn't feel like a MOBA at all. GW2 combat feels like a MOBA however. If blizzard want a moba gamemode they need to fix the combat, because a moba would suck with normal mmorpg combat.

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  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member
    Originally posted by WabbaWay
    MOBA? The already have MOBAs in the form of BGs, they're just adding a DOTA version to their roster of MOBAs.

    The term MOBA started to be used when Dota was made. You can guess the rest.

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  • DiemosDiemos Portsmouth, VAPosts: 129Member

    For those that state ANET hasn't done MOBA PvP with GW2, take a look at the wiki. During the Halloween event they had a PvP minigame in the mad kings zones. So yes, GW2 has already implemented it, just a matter of time before its a permanent minigame.

     

    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reaper's_Rumble

     

    "Reaper's Rumble is a structured PvP MOBA-style map located in the Mad King's Realm"

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  • MuppetierMuppetier SouthamptonPosts: 277Member
    Just to let everyone know I have now moved this thread into the GW2 forum so that we can continue the discussion in the correct context.
  • cronius77cronius77 Fairfax, VAPosts: 1,355Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Originally posted by WabbaWay
    MOBA? The already have MOBAs in the form of BGs, they're just adding a DOTA version to their roster of MOBAs.

    The term MOBA started to be used when Dota was made. You can guess the rest.

    why dont you stop hijacking the topic to push your guild wars 2 agenda . If people wanted to hear about your guild wars 2 garbage they would be there posting there. Seriously Can we get some moderation in here for this guy ? every post on this thread has been about guild wars 2 and bashing wow .

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