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just WOW. This game has changed. I encourage those who haven't to give it another go.
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Yeah you are right, it looks 200% better then in beta.
A lot has changed to the good and the game can entertain.
Nevertheless i canceled my subscribtion a second time already.
That is, because SWTOR was always extreme in all ways.
While for me, the broken tab-targeting is a funkiller in PvP, other people may have other reasons.
And thats, why i found SWTOR always so extreme, extreme good in some points, extreme bad in others.
I dont care about sub numbers, i care about other things, my own problems with this game.
Other people just have other opinions and its fine.
At all, people who havnt played the game since some months, may have a nice experience.
Ok, now I don't really care what people play, in the end if it makes you happy then fine. I do however dislike when people try and claim something, that in the end isn't that true. This game has not changed all that much, some of it is alright, but at it's core it's still the same game that left a sour taste in people's mouthes.
The cash shop is a complete joke, and the F2P plan is one of the worst I have ever seen.
EA/Bioware simply do not know how to make and run an MMO, and no matter what this game will always suffer because of this.
also, as others have stated the article is old, therefore not sure how it is relevant.
I actually did try and log in a week ago, 90 people in fleet (empire side as well...so yeah)
If you enjoy it, that's fine, keep on playing it
....just please don't try and spread false information, or makes statements that aren't true
90 people is low? it only takes like four to make a group. Anways I just logged off and there were 326 people in fleet. so not sure. Maybe people don't stay logged on all of the time or something.
That was the last I heard about sub numbers until the above poster. Even still 500,000 players seems fine to me and it appears to be closer to 1 million. It still has more than every other MMO to date. Unless you count GW2 which doesn't have subs (but just talking population wise).
I guess if this game is dying then every other game besides WoW is comatose.
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
SWTOR is the same, the only things that's better now is the community is bigger and there's a group finder.
Gameplay is still same, same type of content.
I'll stick to GW2,Age of Wulin and Dota 2.
I think why I find so much enjoyment out of it is because I look at it like a living breathing KOTOR rather than an MMO. I see it as KOTOR (which the gameplay is exactly the same except you paused in KOTOR) but there are other people doing their own thing and you can contribute or not.
Thus I see it like the best RPG bioware ever made and after I 'beat' it with one character I start a different class or just make different decisions. As I would with their other games. I can pay 15 bucks a month for that as I'd pay almost 60 a month looking for new games to play.
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
Idk why but GW2 bored me. I was a huge advocate (see sig) and still like a lot of what it does. But I prefer storyline maturity and vast worlds over WvWvW and free combat. Dota 2 looks interesting but I'm not huge into MOBAs. Age of wulin?
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
SWTOR is good for 4 months, so enjoy
I bought the Collectors Edition for full price, plus 2 standard copies, and 2 60 day time cards.
Now I have no more funds left and patince to run through the same series of quests again. It would have helped if every class had their own quests, like WOW/LOTRO/EQ2 etc but after the starting areas, all side quests in SWTOR are shared across the 4 classes, so you only get 2 100% unqiue 1-50 storylines, one from Republic the other on Empire . I would like to play through all 8 or 16 or 32 sceanrios but not at the expense of a monthly fee doing the same quests over and over.. The F2P after playing it as P2P is too restrictive, and not enjoyable, and can not create another character YET as they only allow 2 atm, soon will be 6 with ability to unlock more, but they have been saying that since just after F2P on Nov 15th.
I personally have more desire to play through KOTOR over and over again, which is currently on sale on steam for another 23 hours.
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They went from 120 servers to 20 total overall. The article the op pointed to was not just released that was old news back in may. Rofl pointing at old fact and saying the game has changed. The only real change was free to play.
Those numbers would be fine....if SWTOR wasn't supposed to be the cash cow it was created to be. SWTOR was not a small, niche crowd product to be released..it was a major AAA MMO that was intended to have a massive playerbase.....
This however is not what it did...if it was a smaller game then sure, it would be doingg great right now, this is not the case however
Sadly KOTORs graphics are too dated for me or else I'd buy it and two in a heart-beat. Graphics are some of the appeal to me for video games however and it often limits what I can stomach. The side quests are the same for every MMO out there. Every class does have their own quests.. just not side quests. WoW doesn't even really have what constitutes as a class story. You have a little starting area and then the story basically ends more or less.
In every MMO you are essentially doing the same thing over and over again. I've found the most variation in TOR.
Anyways I just basically came on to say that its definately not dead. There are tons of players online. If it weren't proftiable anymore they wouldn't be releasing an expansion.
I will continue subscribing though until its no longer fun. It seems like people here are only satisfied with old games like star trek or EVE. Which are horrible in my OP.
I can always find groups in TOR, there isn't anyone spamming the chats. Lots of people LFG. It takes like 2 seconds to get into a flashpoint and less to find groups for heroic quests.
Idk I just don't see any reason to not have fun with the game. It all seems like great fun but w/e. Just came to say give it another go. 15 bucks a month is practically nothing. especially sense you don't pay an initial box fee, just the sub.
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
Is this a necro thread or a troll thread?
The article was just released?
1.3 million subs?
Come on OP, you can't post a thread like this on a site like this.
In fact, the subs were so low, the EA CEO hang up on the investors call when he was challenged on his "SWTOR has less than 1 million subs but over 500K." Everybody on this site knows that SWTOR needed 500K subs to stay afloat. They didn't and went F2P. They closed over 200 servers. And on and on...
THAT is what happened since the article was published.
It only take 500,000 to break even. If the game wasn't profitible EA would just shut it down and would definitely not be making an expansion for the thing.
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
it went F2P because they thought it was just a better business model, not because they felt they had to. Also there was a post above that noted it has having more than 500,000 which is more than enough for me. It has an expansion coming out for gods sake. Dying games do not release expansions. It has a small but nice population. Its not a troll thread I just don't see the game dying like others seem to claim. It looks fine and healthy to me.
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
lol Expansion? Okay. xD
Not sure what this is getting at. Yes..expansion. Scheduled in january..
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
They HAD to. It wasn't doing well as a sub ONLY game. Which is why it took forever for them to bring out "content".
Also, one would think an actual expansion would be better than a DLC, IF their sub based payment plan worked. But it didn't. So...they had to do something to remedy that. F2P was the answer. To compete and gain back possible members. Their F2P isn't even true F2P, it's a way for them to force people to sub.
We will see the health of the game after the shiny new F2P has worn out. Until then, it's the SAME game as it launched minus a few adjustments. So no, gameplay wise, one can subjectively argue about whether it's better or not.
Stop spreading misinformation.
Disclaimer: I played until 1.2 hit. When that hit, I was gone. PvP is a joke.
I'm pretty sure the expansion is coming late spring.
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You think it's an expansion? ROFL okay. I guess DLCs are good enough as an expansion.
Storm Legion = A REAL expansion
Mists of Pandaria = A REAL expansion
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It just feels like a different experience to me. Combat is tighter, there have been lots of tweaks. PvP is pretty balanced, there aren't a ton of CC abilities anymore. Space combat has recieved a lot of love in customizability and a PvP element. I play on a PvE server though so I'm unsure about world PvP but the battlegrounds are always fun.
The skill tree's make more sense.
The graphics got an update and everything looks even better.
I just think for some reason the game has gotten a bad rap and I can't figure out why. It seems great at what it does. Where does it fall flat? The combat is the best that MMO's have to offer (unless you don't like the trinity system anymore). It looks flashy and exciting. The storylines are the best MMO's have to offer. The flashpoint dungeons are actually interesting and also the best dungeons MMO's have to offer.
Where exactly doesn't it hold up to this invisible standard of other MMOs? And what MMO does it better? Because I'd like to play that game then.
http://www.wix.com/guardiansofthegarter/home
Each to his own. Unlike others I dont feel the need to be offended if someone likes a game I'm not currently playing.
Glad you've found a game you like, enjoy :-)
Player base has nothing to do with state of the game, reason mmorpgs have been a in rut for so many years is because a majority of the " player base " is noobs who enjoy this sort of lame mmo.I like how in the story lines, when you go into a building to speak with a important NPC, and say he's your general black guy, every single one of his underlings is a exact copy of a different little blackguy, no variation just clones. You can see how much thought and creativity they put into there "story lines".
3 cheers for false lore, this game just as bad as TES is going to be.