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  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Somewhere in nowherePosts: 2,325Member Uncommon

    Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

    I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

    Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  • GrayKodiakGrayKodiak Nada, FLPosts: 576Member
    Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

    Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

    I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

    I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

    The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Somewhere in nowherePosts: 2,325Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GrayKodiak
    Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

    Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

    I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

    I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

    The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

    The massively article talks about paying to level up your skills and renting items for money.

    Both are not really appealing to me.

    Will still try the game even if the EU version has the same deal though.

    Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  • GrayKodiakGrayKodiak Nada, FLPosts: 576Member
    Originally posted by Fdzzaigl
    Originally posted by GrayKodiak
    Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

    Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

    I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

    I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

    The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

    The massively article talks about paying to level up your skills and renting items for money.

    Both are not really appealing to me.

    Will still try the game even if the EU version has the same deal though.

    The items it talks about are the vanity items,

    the leveling up your skill for money is not cash shop related but related to the prayer event going on where you can pray and get random rewards including some exp pills I belive not useful to me as my exp is normally maxxed anyway and I have way too much cultivation points to spend unless I take a week from getting anymore.

    The biggest potential gripe is the ability to do martial arts training for silver coins (which you can get with real money) this can be used to speed up the process. I bought 3 dollars worth of gold coins to test it out, it took about two hours off of my skill cultivation time. To me it is not worth it but yes I suppose someone could drop 300 dollars and speed it up considerably. Lotro has exp books in the cash shop, Eve has plex..it is almost become the norm that if you are dead set on spending real money you can get an advantage (Wow has gold farmers and multi account users).

     

    You can do the same martial arts training with coins you earn from being a crafter, you don't have to be spending real money on it. I would like to see a cap on how many coins you can buy with real money per day or week or something but I doubt that would happen.

  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Leland, NCPosts: 3,275Member
    Originally posted by Fdzzaigl
    Originally posted by GrayKodiak
    Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

    Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

    I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

    I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

    The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

    The massively article talks about paying to level up your skills and renting items for money.

    Both are not really appealing to me.

    Will still try the game even if the EU version has the same deal though.

    Always keep in mind that even though someone levels skills by paying out cash quicker, does not mean they know how to properly use those skills or know what they are doing.  Rental items however I agree suck but that would not keep me from playing the game in any fashion.

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vyeth

    I wish every MMO could say things like this:

    There has been some confusion regarding the consequences for deleting a character that we want to clear up. Let me start by saying that Age of Wushu is an unconventional MMO in many ways. The focus isn't on leveling as quickly as possible to reach an endgame, but instead participating in a persistent and living world. There are many features that encourage this, from characters remaining in game while offline to the emphasis on a player-driven economy. Age of Wushu encourages a connection with a single character, and the journey from newcomer to master.

    Simply put, the game was not made to support "alts." Each account is only allowed a single character for this reason. The choices you make are intended to have consequences.

     

    The choices you make are intended to have consequences..

    I have been enjoying my time in the Age of Wushu..

     

    Recommended.

    This is the part that grabbed my attention.

    "Elite and Deluxe Edition Rewards will not be sent to characters created after a character is deleted and a new one is created.

    VIP Status will remain, regardless of character deletion.

    It's important to be absolutely sure before making any lasting decisions. If you need help or information on which school you should join, there are many resources available, including our very own
    Schools forum as well as the School Spotlights posted on our official site.

    Additionally, you are free to use other Snail Accounts to create free trials and use the allotted 10 hours to evaluate a school before choosing on your main account."

    http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2101

    Should have been a message to people when they were buying the game that this was what would happen. Either way people should be sent their elite and deluxe rewards regardless if they reroll, seems real shoddy to me.

    image

    What happens when you log off your characters????.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
    Dark Age of Camelot

  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Somewhere in nowherePosts: 2,325Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by parrotpholk
     

    Always keep in mind that even though someone levels skills by paying out cash quicker, does not mean they know how to properly use those skills or know what they are doing.  Rental items however I agree suck but that would not keep me from playing the game in any fashion.

    It will be wait and see to find out how much the cash shop will affect the balance in-game.

    Must say I've heard the above argument many times, but usually it still turns out to be: pay = win...

    Not gonna say it's like that in this game though, I haven't played it yet.  It would just be a shame to let something that seems so promising go the way of Allods, or to see the soul of the PvP compromised by microtransactions.

    Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  • GrayKodiakGrayKodiak Nada, FLPosts: 576Member
    Originally posted by Tayah
    Originally posted by Vyeth

    I wish every MMO could say things like this:

    There has been some confusion regarding the consequences for deleting a character that we want to clear up. Let me start by saying that Age of Wushu is an unconventional MMO in many ways. The focus isn't on leveling as quickly as possible to reach an endgame, but instead participating in a persistent and living world. There are many features that encourage this, from characters remaining in game while offline to the emphasis on a player-driven economy. Age of Wushu encourages a connection with a single character, and the journey from newcomer to master.

    Simply put, the game was not made to support "alts." Each account is only allowed a single character for this reason. The choices you make are intended to have consequences.

     

    The choices you make are intended to have consequences..

    I have been enjoying my time in the Age of Wushu..

     

    Recommended.

    This is the part that grabbed my attention.

    "Elite and Deluxe Edition Rewards will not be sent to characters created after a character is deleted and a new one is created.

    VIP Status will remain, regardless of character deletion.

    It's important to be absolutely sure before making any lasting decisions. If you need help or information on which school you should join, there are many resources available, including our very own
    Schools forum as well as the School Spotlights posted on our official site.

    Additionally, you are free to use other Snail Accounts to create free trials and use the allotted 10 hours to evaluate a school before choosing on your main account."

    http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2101

    Should have been a message to people when they were buying the game that this was what would happen. Either way people should be sent their elite and deluxe rewards regardless if they reroll, seems real shoddy to me.

    What items do you really loose? A temporary mount for deluxe and?

    I never thought the "junk" it gave out was that good so I never understood the desire to keep it, the game give you a temp mount at the start regardless...the old horse, so you really don't even loose that you just get a different one. You keep the gold and the VIP.

    I think you get some armor that isn't that good as well, I don't know I just think if I wanted to swap schools the few trinkets it gave me wouldn't stop me one bit.

    edit: The lost time in character development might give me some pause though.

  • IIIcurrierIIIcurrier Kalispell, MTPosts: 88Member
    Originally posted by Rilman

      Front page, right hand corner saying "try it now" " Try Age of Wushu for free! With the start of the beta Dec 20th all registered players can explore the grandeur of Age of Wushu –for free! – on a limited trial basis. 10 hours of free play, with 60 minutes per day after"

    http://www.ageofwushu.com/home/

     

    I can't see that anywhere. I've got 'buy now' and 'download'.

    Its Pay to play beta which is a joke to be honest. It didn't say you could only play for one hour a day until I'd read all the website introduction, downloaded the game, made an account, installed the game, then came the one hour pop-up when I first logged in, I'm annoyed because it wasted my time, if I knew it was a pay to play Beta frigging test I never would have downloaded it in the first place. I posted on their forums and there was a dozen people replied aggreeing with me saying it was basically shite and they should tell you this first, it all seems a little underhand to me,  get you to install their game, make and account and THEN tell you you have to pay, to Beta test?

    If its not a Beta then don't tell me its a beta, its its an hour trial for 10 days then say so, don't try to trick people into installing the game and then tell them, the whole thing just comes of as dishonest trickery to get peoples money.

     

    http://www.ageofwushu.com/

    Front page as stated. Also first search on google this is top of list. Clearly states terms of beta, GL.
  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Sugar Grove, VAPosts: 1,548Member Uncommon
    Wait.. Isnt this game Age of Wulin? That game is terrible. Where are all of these " fans " coming from?

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  • GrayKodiakGrayKodiak Nada, FLPosts: 576Member
    Originally posted by SlyLoK
    Wait.. Isnt this game Age of Wulin? That game is terrible. Where are all of these " fans " coming from?

    I am in florida.

  • muthaxmuthax mondaPosts: 593Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by parrotpholk
    Always keep in mind that even though someone levels skills by paying out cash quicker, does not mean they know how to properly use those skills or know what they are doing.  Rental items however I agree suck but that would not keep me from playing the game in any fashion.

    For what I have seen, everything in game (either sold by an NPC or a crafter) has durability and when this gets to zero the item disappears. They do this to keep the economy from stagnating (SWG had a similar system). I believe the cash shop items are timed for similar reasons

  • muthaxmuthax mondaPosts: 593Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fdzzaigl
    It will be wait and see to find out how much the cash shop will affect the balance in-game.

    Must say I've heard the above argument many times, but usually it still turns out to be: pay = win...

    Not gonna say it's like that in this game though, I haven't played it yet.  It would just be a shame to let something that seems so promising go the way of Allods, or to see the soul of the PvP compromised by microtransactions.

    Right now the only stuff in the cash shop is cosmetic or mounts. Not sure if this is going to change. They might have potions and pills too (to speed up exp conversion rate) but you can get those in game too

  • BiskopBiskop AvalonPosts: 709Member

    @ SlyLok

    I'm from Sweden.

  • muthaxmuthax mondaPosts: 593Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Biskop
    I'm from Sweden myself.

    He was being sarcastic. He means he thinks AoW is crap and doesn't get why so many people like it

  • BiskopBiskop AvalonPosts: 709Member
    Originally posted by muthax
    Originally posted by Biskop
    I'm from Sweden myself.

    He was being sarcastic. He means he thinks AoW is crap and doesn't get why so many people like it

    What...!? Sarcasm? On the INTERNET? No way!!!

  • Necrite666Necrite666 BraunschweigPosts: 27Member
    F2P (without P2W) and sandboxy... sounds nice. Too bad the setting turns me off... So it might really be "the greatest sandbox you'll never play". At least for me. -.-

    I hate WoW and what it has done to the MMO genre.

  • muthaxmuthax mondaPosts: 593Member Uncommon

    This is what SnailGame had to say officially on the P2W 'accuse':

    http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2345

    Make whatever you want of it. I know I am not going to play the NA version but just because of latency (I am a VIP but the ability delay when you are at 300ms ping is really too much) 

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,279Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Biskop

    @ SlyLok

    I'm from Sweden.

    Detroit here.

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,279Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GrayKodiak

    The massively article talks about paying to level up your skills and renting items for money.

    Both are not really appealing to me.

    Will still try the game even if the EU version has the same deal though.

    The items it talks about are the vanity items,

    the leveling up your skill for money is not cash shop related but related to the prayer event going on where you can pray and get random rewards including some exp pills I belive not useful to me as my exp is normally maxxed anyway and I have way too much cultivation points to spend unless I take a week from getting anymore.

    The biggest potential gripe is the ability to do martial arts training for silver coins (which you can get with real money) this can be used to speed up the process. I bought 3 dollars worth of gold coins to test it out, it took about two hours off of my skill cultivation time. To me it is not worth it but yes I suppose someone could drop 300 dollars and speed it up considerably. Lotro has exp books in the cash shop, Eve has plex..it is almost become the norm that if you are dead set on spending real money you can get an advantage (Wow has gold farmers and multi account users).

     

    You can do the same martial arts training with coins you earn from being a crafter, you don't have to be spending real money on it. I would like to see a cap on how many coins you can buy with real money per day or week or something but I doubt that would happen.

    This is aswell as it can be said.

  • muthaxmuthax mondaPosts: 593Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Biskop
    Originally posted by muthax
    Originally posted by Biskop
    I'm from Sweden myself.

    He was being sarcastic. He means he thinks AoW is crap and doesn't get why so many people like it

    What...!? Sarcasm? On the INTERNET? No way!!!

    Shocking, I know...

    What sort of ping you get on teh NA server? Do you have problems with abilities not firing at the right time?

  • muthaxmuthax mondaPosts: 593Member Uncommon
    BTW anyone knows of a decent AoW forum? The official one (NA) is a wasteland and this isn't exactly....busy.
  • TheocritusTheocritus Gary, INPosts: 3,752Member Uncommon
        The martial arts and asian overtones of this game don't make it seem very appealing.....let us know when someone has a good fantasy sandbox
  • BiskopBiskop AvalonPosts: 709Member
    Originally posted by muthax
    Originally posted by Biskop
    Originally posted by muthax
    Originally posted by Biskop
    I'm from Sweden myself.

    He was being sarcastic. He means he thinks AoW is crap and doesn't get why so many people like it

    What...!? Sarcasm? On the INTERNET? No way!!!

    Shocking, I know...

    What sort of ping you get on teh NA server? Do you have problems with abilities not firing at the right time?

    I have had no issues whatsoever. I know some people complain about lag and latency issues but the game runs smooth as silk for me 99% of the time.

    I'll probably move to the EU server when Wulin launches though, since I hear the English translations will be better there (and also more people from my timezone playing ofc). Remains to be seen how well gpotato handles the whole "ptw" thing.

  • rwyanrwyan raleigh, NCPosts: 461Member

    I have attempted many times to play this game.  I've lost myself a few hours into this game here and there simply because I've tried to convince myself that the wonderfulness will just eventually reveal itself to me.  It seems many players experience some sort of epiphany at some point.... I simply don't quite "get it".

     

    There does seem to be something fairly deep here... life skills, various martial arts schools, cultivation, practice, spying, kidnapping, jail, patrols, etc...  However, it is all hidden by awful translation and an equally awful interface.  The only thing truly accessible is the cash shop :)

     

     

     

     

     

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