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Hey guys, so I'm building a new computer, I'm 15 and I don't know much about this sort of stuff, I'm replacing my 6 year comp finally, I have a Zotac GTX560 1GB 256BIT DDR5 video card already, but that's about all I want to keep from my current PC. So I have $980 total to cover all of the parts, tax, shipping (I'm in Canada) and I was wondering if you guys could help me out, I don't want 1 part way better than the other, I'd like to have something that's about equal power with everything. Please help me out guys! Thanks! - Mix
P.S. I have a monitor, keyboard (kinda crappy keyboard) a good mouse, and speakers. So I just need parts. I'll be building this PC with my brother.
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So you can browse, soon someone will post what they think is best setup. But always best for you to go look and do some research when making that kind of investment.
Thanks man, I know. Kinda scared to spend that much money haha, but it's needed cuz I love video games.
Oh, and Quizzical is really helpful here, if he posts what parts to get I'm gonna listen to him I think lol.
Processor: $210
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70541&vpn=BX80637I53570K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1033
Motherboard: $155 before a $30 rebate
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69234&vpn=Z77A%2DGD65&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1033
Power supply: $80 before a $15 rebate
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59617&vpn=P1750SNLB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1033
Memory: $60 before a $10 rebate
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76335&vpn=CMX16GX3M2A1600C11&manufacture=Corsair&promoid=1033
CPU heatsink: $19
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&vpn=RR%2DB10%2D212P%2DG1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER&promoid=1033
Case: $80
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65171&vpn=ELEVEN%20HUNDRED&manufacture=Others&promoid=1033
Optical drive: $15
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76258&vpn=SH%2D224BB%2FBEBE&manufacture=Samsung&promoid=1033
SSD: $150
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=71916&vpn=AGT4%2D25SAT3%2D256G&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1033
Hard drive: $60
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1033
Operating system: $85
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=77180&vpn=WN7%2D00404&manufacture=Microsoft&promoid=1033
Total: $914 before $55 in rebates.
I'm not sure how much NCIX will charge for shipping, but those prices are all in Canadian dollars, and they're based in Canada. If you need to cut back a bit to fit a strict $980 budget (and I'm guessing it's a strict budget, or else you'd have said $1000), a cheaper motherboard is probably the best place to cut back. Depending on how much capacity you need, with a 240 GB SSD, you might be able to skip the hard drive entirely.
If you get this, then you plan on upgrading the video card in the future whenever you decide that it isn't good enough anymore. That might take you a few years, but the rest of the system should still be decent then.
I'm also assuming that you already have a surge protector, since you have the rest of the normal peripherals. If you don't, then you'll need one.
Also, if you dislike your keyboard, it's cheap to get a different one. You probably don't need anything fancy, and most desktop keyboards will work fine. Laptop keyboards are dicier, but that's due to the form factor.
Oh, and I have Windows 8 already, so -$85 and keeping the Harddrive, that should be enough to cover $980 right?
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If you're just going to use it for bulk data while putting everything that is performance-sensitive on the SSD, then it doesn't really matter how slow the hard drive is. I don't think there are any recent models that are especially failure-prone, so reusing the hard drive should be fine if it's fairly recent. If it's five years old already, then it should probably be replaced.
As for SSD IOPS numbers, once you're into the tens of thousands, adding more doesn't matter for consumer use.
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As for Windows 8, if you already have a legal Windows 8 license that hasn't previously been used in some other computer, then sure, use that. But you can't just take a Windows 8 license from an old computer and use it in a new one.
If a game runs on Windows 7, then it should run on Windows 8. Most game developers probably aren't going to use Metro, and online game developers will never or essentially never use Metro, but you can still run games just fine without it, and without developers doing anything special to support it.
its a GoOd dAy to diE !!
As you're new to computer building, I would suggest to first familiarize yourself with technology each part represents. If you're not reading any computer related magazines, just go to review/comparison pages for the parts that you're interested in buying (google 'em sites), read it all and if you don't understand what something means, try looking for wikipedia articles.
For example many novice people would just go for the best and priciest parts without knowing how much performance boost they'll really receive while using the applications (programs/games) they usually do. Imo getting a 2% performance boost while paying an extra $100 isn't very smart.
And always remember, as soon as you unwrap those parts, their resell value plummets, so invest with care.
Cheers.
We are going to have to act, if we want to live in a different world.
They changed the terms for windows 8 to not be as restrictive as 7 and the previous OS's were. They let you move the license over to a new computer now, just don't let you run it on multiples.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x8GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M2A1333C9/dp/B0085IZVKI/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1356810689&sr=1-3
If you're just going for cheap ram, then yeah, corsair XMS or equivalent is fine.
Like many others in this threat, I suggest you do some of your own research before jumping to buy some things someone else has linked for you. You should know more about how a computer works and what the specs of the items you are buying affect it before blowing all your cash.
It is less restrictive, but most of the same rules apply:
* A Retail copy can be moved or virtualized, Vista can only be transfered once, all other OSes can be transfered multiple times
* An OEM copy cannot be moved and must run as the host OS
* An Upgrade license has the same rules from whichever of the two editions the upgraded OS was
No consumer licenses can be run on multiple computers (only enterprise licenses, which would be like a large school or company)
Most copies are OEM copies or Upgrade copies which are ultimately based on OEM licenses - if it came pre-installed on a computer (like an eMachines), it's almost certainly an OEM copy. Retail copies are very expensive, and most people don't buy them, and they almost never come pre-installed on machines. Most people building their own computer tend to get an OEM license (even though it technically doesn't cover). Most people upgrading from one OS to the next will get the Upgrade license, because it's usually about $100 cheaper, and the Upgrade license then is based on whatever root OS you upgraded from (Retail or OEM).
Windows 8 does add a new System Builder license, which let's you virtualize (OEM does not), but still locks you to a single computer (like the OEM does now). Rumor has it that MS may drop the Retail edition of Windows 8 in favor of System Builder editions, which have just recently become available; the System Builder license is cheaper than Retail, but it would legally prevent you from transferring the license to a new computer.
Almost all RAM is made in one of just a handful of foundries, so it's all really just about the same.
All your really paying for are the packaging (the pretty colors on the heat spreaders, the box it comes in), and most importantly, for the warranty & support.
RAM is the single most likely component to be shipped faulty, because it's very static sensitive and has a lot of exposed connection points. Aside from making sure that you have a good return policy with the company you buy it from, and at least enough warranty support to get you out to 90 days, RAM is pretty much all the same.
Make sure it's compatible with your motherboard (DDR3), that the stock voltage is low (1.5V or less), the timings are tight (9-9-9, CAS latency of 9 or lower). The clock largely doesn't matter (or at least not nearly as much as the other numbers do), anything at or over 1333 (10666) is fine, but they tend to charge a lot more as they crank the clock up, and this only really matters if your using integrated video (and you are not).
I trust Kingston for most of my personal computers. I've used Mushkin, Corsair, Crucial, and G.Skill before without issue as well. No brand is impervious to being DOA, but with these brands, it's relatively painless to get a replacement.
thats more than i had, i had under 400 to work with and i think my computer kicks BUTT!
Asus Maximus IV mobo
8G DDR3 8000mhz
Geforce GTX 560 2G DDR5 (overclocked)
I5-3570K (overclocked)
Corsair CPU watercooling
NZXT case with 5 fans
128G Kingston SSD
550W Ultra Powersupply
got all that for under 400 shipped to my door! Pays to buy at the right time and place, i found newegg to be a lil pricey so i bought all my stuff from directcanada. (im canadian)
ALSO i HIGHLY recommend using http://pcpartpicker.com BEST site that collects all the prices on the net for what your looking for and shows them to u at once.
I have yet to find a game i cant run. I even can run Crysis 3 on max settings.(i got n beta) and BF3 on ultra with over 30 FPS. Kinda pissed off my friend cuz his 560 TI is running at the same specs as my 560 but he paid 120 more lolz
Ok thanks man, do you know any that's decent that would work with the other parts that Quizzical picked? It looks like I need 16gb of ram.
16G kit (2x8G) - best I could find from ncix without going pretty high on the price.
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76779&vpn=PV316G160C0K&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1033
Timing is a bit high (10-10-10), but won't make a huge difference. It's on stock and on sale:
$68.99 CAD Savings Code 76779-1033. Special price ends 01/02/2013. (Not sure what shipping price is here)
Similar RAM, with 9-9-9 timings and 1333 clock from Newegg.ca
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220619
$62.99 CAD, $9.99 shipping
Newegg.ca has a lot better selection on RAM, NCIX is a bit limited, but shipping may play a factor here.
That being said - are you sure you need 16G? Most people can't use over 4G, and 8G is plenty for most people an will save you a bit on your budget - 8G kit (2x4G):
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced&promoid=1360
$37.99 CAD Savings Code 55544-1360. Special price ends 12/31/2012. (Not sure what shipping price is here)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095
$32.99 CAD, $9.99 shipping
Same thing from Newegg.ca
Well, it may not be all the same as Quiz's build, but I just did one up on Newegg.CA (which has excellent parts availability, even though shipping may be a bit more):
Intel Core i5 3570: $214.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2: $30.99
SAMSUNG 840 Series 2.5" 250GB SATA III (SSD): $189.99
SILVERSTONE Strider Essential 600W Power Supply: $60.49
Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case: $39.99
Mushkin 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 SDRAM Model 996770: $32.99
ASUS P8Z77-V LK Intel Motherboard: $129.99
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner: $17.99
Grand Total:* $717.42 (without shipping)
$10.00 USD Mail-in Rebate
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
Not so hard... everything you need except a video card, and second storage hard drive
I went cheap on the case, dropped to 8G of RAM to keep the price low - that's a good deal on a 250G SSD, so I picked it up, you could drop to 120G and save some cash there. The motherboard and CPU are "entry level" - if you want to overclock you'd need something a bit heartier on the motherboard, and bump to the K edition CPU. I put a basic aftermarket heat sink on there, but running stock you could do without.