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firefall still feels like vaporware in the sense that they don't seem very geared towards a release. theres been lawsuits and financial wrangling about the game they got desparate enough to recruit sci fi celebs to promote the game...where's all that $$$$ coming from what basically is an indie studio? Ps2 is live and is a worth successor to the only true mmofps ever....hands down ps2 wins
so say we all
i been in firefall beta since the first wave when it was pvp testing only ( nda dropped a long time ago ) A huge amount of what is being said about firefall online is false. The broadstrokes laid down by the OP were pretty accurate, but firefall is doing a lot of things that no game on the market currently is doing. Also, in terms of pve there is still a ton more to do, the visual time line on their website shows beta at the mid-way point. The first stages of the RTS elements of fighting the chosen have just been implemented. So i mean a huge amount of pve is not even in the game yet. They still have not decided on what form open world pvp will take, etc.
So trying to judge a game that is out already, vs. a game that many of the final decissions have not even been made yet is kinda silly. Besides all that this is one of the few companies where they actually really listen to the fans and the CEO posts every day on the forums. Their is not going to be a AAA company funding this game so its gonna take time because its a small talented stuido. So in short the usuall hey this is a MMOFPS type terms don't always fit this game.
No one has ever made a online open world pve shooter that was ay good or was not highly instanced. They are breaking new ground.
if people really wanna understand what firefall is going for watch the extra credits video on staged content
Not quite sure why they are compared. Just because a game has guns doesn't really mean they are the same.
Firefall and Planetside 2 are just to different. I actually enjoy both games and both of them forfill me in vastly different ways from one another.
Originally posted by mmoguy43 Originally posted by bossalinie Originally posted by mmoguy43 Firefall PvE > Planetside 2's Planetside 2's PvP > Firefall's
PS2 has no PvE. It is a multipler FPS at heart. It's more of a child prodigy of the Battlefield series more so than any MMO
Player vs Environment in PS2 is fighting the terrain to navigate over it and the the fall damage. I didn't say it was good.
seeing as Planetside was around a long time before the battlefield series was even a concept, its probably the other way around. Planetside 2 is a sort of stripped down version of Planetside, simplified perhaps, but, it is a clear successor to Planetside, well i use the 'successor' title a bit loosely as the original Planetside had far more functionality than Planetside 2, more vehicles, ground and air, and skills that had a great deal more 'depth' to them than the ones you find in Planetside 2. It is possible that the degree of 'simplification' inflicted on Planetside 2 was influenced by Battlefield 3 though, as the degree of Nerf from Planetside 1 to Planetside 2 is extremely high.
Imo then this is like comparing BF3 with Quake.
Where planetside would be BF3, and Firefall would be Quake.
Originally posted by Phry Originally posted by mmoguy43 Originally posted by bossalinie Originally posted by mmoguy43 Firefall PvE > Planetside 2's Planetside 2's PvP > Firefall's
well this is simply not true. battlefield 1942 came out well over a year before PS1 officially launched.
Not really a fair or even valid comparison, they are very, very different games.
Planetside 2 is ALL about open world, large scale PvP battles. Firefall is much more focused on PvE, exploration, lore, and story driven content (not much of it is currently in-game, but it's planned). It does have PvP in it and there are plans to add open world PvP but we are no where near that point currently. The plans for the Melding are very interesting to say the least. Right now in Firefall only 10 sqm are available to explore, in the end the entire world will be 1/10th the scale of earth so we are extremely far away from having a full world like Planetside 2 does.
If you like PvP and large scale battles, PS2 will probably be more your thing currently. If you like PvE content, having random fun with a small group of friends (events requiring larger amounts of people will be added later too though), lore, exploration, Firefall may be more to your liking.
Originally posted by ipeka who cares, as long they are better than COD , im satifsied enough.
Define "better". CoD is not really comparable to Firefall either. Firefall is more like Unreal Tournament and Tribes got together and had offspring with some rather nice pve thrown in.
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Originally posted by ShakyMo Vion Not really planetside 1 and 2 is beyond bf3, its a fully persistent bigger world not match based like bf3. In traditional mmo terms. Firefall Is like wow battlegrounds. Instanced mini game match pvp Planetside is like daoc Bf3 is like lake wintergrasp in wow
You nailed in your comparison, exactly on the money, FF is trying to go beyond that and shortly we will have new events and other stuff that are going to make PVP even better and improve PVE as well.
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I played both now, PS2 and FireFall beta weekend and I must say these games are totally different.
PS2 is more of a real shooter, big classic battlefield with a lot of shooting and squading.
Your character is nothing more than an avatar.
FireFall seems to have a little bit RP feeling and there is room for hangout moments, if you know what I mean. You kinda feel bound to your character.
PS2 and Firefall are two completely different games which are not comparable. The only things they have in common is FPS combat, and being 'MMO' sized.
I personally like both. I play PS2 and am keeping an eye on Firefall (mainly when they get around adding world PvP and the incentives for it, I do hope it won't just be a token grind but rather be based on proper objectives).
i play them both
well, firefall is on break waiting for wipe
prefer firefall because of the pve - no where near as intense as PS2 (this is a good thing) - does not piss me off (7 kills/80 deaths PS2 = me needs practice) - love the jet boots and gliders
As I've been playing both both have their upsides and down but neither one is any where near to being similar other than the fact that one class has a jet pack in PS2- All characters in Firefall have some form of a jet pack. That and guns but this is pretty much where the similarities end.
Firefall you fight either in arena style squirmeshes or open world AI and eventually other players once they add open world pvp.
Firefall has way more RPG elements to it than PS2. PS2 is just giant faction vs faction vs faction all out open world warfare which is fun in its own right but I've been running into alot of hackers recently in game.
Firefall will probably have those as well its got plenty of bugs in it that can be exploited and whether they'll see a fix in time before its game breaking is neither here nor there.
Both have their pro's and cons but both are entirely different genre's of games each has its own little niche its trying to carve out but only time will tell if they can work it out or not for now I'm not keeping my hopes up about either for different reasons but we'll see what happens.