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The War Z: Just When You Think It Can't Get Worse....

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Yahoo, COPosts: 4,990Member
    Originally posted by chelan

    MOARCONSPIRACIES! MOARCONSPIRACIES!

    /run xmas_entertainment

     

    Lol

    This seriously just keeps getting better and better

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • TalonsinTalonsin Posts: 1,478Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    What false pretenses please do tell

    Dozens of skills to spend XP on.

    Map that is 100km to 400km in size when it has been clearly shown to be 72km

    Private servers - not int he game yet.

     

    Seriously dude, dont let your fanboism blind you.  Sergy purposely created a sales page with FALSE information.  Not only was he told to fix it but after valve dug into the issue further, they dropped the game off steam.  That didnt happen because the game was awesome. 

  • elvenwolfelvenwolf RomePosts: 139Member
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    Originally posted by elvenwolf
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    Originally posted by elvenwolf
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    Originally posted by elvenwolf
    Originally posted by creedgaming

    The game was sold with you knowing it wasn't ready it was sold in beta how dumb are you?

    How original was World of warcrap , not original at all.... It was a Ultima online knockoff in ever sense of the world..... How original was Call of duty ; Not very original at all..... 

    I got a feeling almost all of you come from Xbox gaming...  

    You mean the fact that it was a "release" or the fact that on teh steam page tehre was nothing to point to the fact the game was in that alpha state that the developers desperately want to call beta?

    If the game wasn't ready why are they even trying to sell it? Why there was anywhere on the page a disclaimer "This game is in a sorry state, we should not even call it beta but we are selling it" ?

    I checked the WarZ site, in NO part of it , especially on the "Buy" page is a disclaimer the game is still in beta.

    the only disclaimer present is a "PC only" game.

    So again, how is this not a scam?

     

     

    Games are being sold daily in beta ; actually thats what has made Kickstarter so sucessful , how the genre started with Ultima Online started you paid $5 to be a tester..... (Got nothing in return FYI) ... You paid just to test the game... Didn't actually get the game....

    Game that are sold in a beta state are clearly stated to be in beta, games on a kickstarter page are clearly told are "Projects" or being only on al alpha state, if even there, for that part games on a kickstarter page sometime are just clearly presented as "ideas".

    When the interviewer tried to ask about that, he had pratcally pry from the developer that the game was "developing" 

    Sorry but as i said, they tried to sell features that were not in teh game, i am sorry your job is in danger now, or you risk to face charges but do not change the facts.

     

    Sure we can say that about anything, my car was developing from the moment they mined the raw materials to the moment they assembled it .

    Of course when  i boght my car i didnt' receive a pile of raw iron from the car seller telling me the car was "In constant development"

     

     

    No because the car was sold with the implication that it was complete , and there wasn't big print on Chevy , Fords , Nissan or w/es website saying BETA in big letters.... 

     

     

    Maybe you should read again my post, i am starting to think you suffer of "Selective comprehension disorder" 

    But i will spell it for you again.

    When you buy a car, you go to a car seller, of any branch it may be, and you see a finished product, you buy it, and you receive it.

    The product include usually a functional moving veichle , it might have accessories or not, but is a finished roduct, the product might be somehow damaged, if so, you ask for a replecement.

     

    Applying this to WarZ, and i'll type it slowly so you might get it...

     

    Is like i go to a car seller, i point a car, then when it got delivered i got only the body, no engine, no lights,  no wheels.

     

    This is WarZ

    They promised a car, clearly promised  a car, without any doubt promised me a car, and i got only a part of it, not really functional even.

     

    Nowhere on the page, on steam or anywhere else it states the game is in beta.

     

     

    Then thats steams problem , WarZ official site said BETA in big letters , or maybe the onus you to check the official site rather then being a dipshit...

    As someone else pointed too, nowhere says it is in beta, of course now you have an excuse, go and change the page, at least if this happen, we'll be warning others of the real state of the game.

    Go, change the main page, off you go 

  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,538Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by creedgaming

     

    Then thats steams problem , WarZ official site said BETA in big letters , or maybe the onus you to check the official site rather then being a dipshit...

    Then they failed (or chose not to) to update their official website to accurately reflect the state of the game.

    As has already been pointed out - and quoted - the developer themself stated that it could no longer be considered a Beta.

    Once again, you demonstrate your predilection for cherry-picking details that suit you, while ignoring those that don't.

     

    You aren't doing the game, or its devs, any favors with your persistent nonsense. All verifiable evidence about this game and its developers' dubious behavior paints a very clear picture of huge red warning flags. Yet, you just continue to ignore all that and continue arguing as though  you have a leg to stand on.

    But hey, at least you're entertaining everyone. That counts for something.

     

     

     

  • darkbamydarkbamy MetropolisPosts: 111Member

    Dear creedgaming,

     

    Why are you defending a polished up turt?

     

    With Regards,

    Dr. Seuss

  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,538Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    What false pretenses please do tell

    Dozens of skills to spend XP on.

    Map that is 100km to 400km in size when it has been clearly shown to be 72km

    Private servers - not int he game yet.

     

    Seriously dude, dont let your fanboism blind you.  Sergy purposely created a sales page with FALSE information.  Not only was he told to fix it but after valve dug into the issue further, they dropped the game off steam.  That didnt happen because the game was awesome. 

    Too late. The blinders are clearly on, and no amount of reality or verifiable fact is gonna pry them off.

    Forget "drinking the kool-aid". Creedgaming is swimming in it.

     

     

  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    You  wouldn't like me as a dev i can tell you that much...   I'd be like the FDR of gaming I welcome your hatred...... 
     
    If a few things don't make it into game you want a refund GTFO.... There wouldn't be a refund the terms of service , licensing agreement would be very clear we won't be giving out refunds undr any circumstances... Don't like it get on your knees....

    Santa needs to bring you  Unlimited Medication Refills for Xmas. Especially if you actually believe half of what you are saying.

    Releasing an Alpha stage game as a released product IS not appropriate and may even be illegal. Not to mention several instances of breaking copywrite laws ( pesky laws.. keep getting in the way of things for these guys )

    I can almost believe your just trolling to get a response, because no one in their right mind can defend these guys.

  • KatrisaKatrisa Denver, COPosts: 109Member

    Interesting how anyone defends this game.

    Everything they have done up to this point has been disrepectful and outright contempt for the customer. I will never give my money to anyone involved in making or promoting this game ever again. 

     

    Have a great day!  

  • junzo316junzo316 Raleigh, NCPosts: 1,684Member Uncommon

    This is the most entertaining thread I have read in a while.  Thanks all for making this the beginning of a Merry Christmas!

     

  • NonderyonNonderyon GyulaPosts: 175Member Uncommon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?
  • WonderweissMWonderweissM gvile, FLPosts: 127Member
    I don't really think the game is that bad, if you consider it a side-game, and I think the company and sergy are just awful at conveying information to the consumer, which confused us. I will keep playing, as long as I have to pay for nothing else, and hope one day the company will get their shit together and learn how to rightfully display / advertise their product.
  • k44mosk44mos BucharestPosts: 22Member

    Mr creedgaming, for future reference “boss”,

     

    I might want to put into perspective a couple of things that you might have skipped during “REAL LIFE INC.” training:

     

    - when you promise CORE ELEMENTS for a product and that product is released without the CORE ELEMENTS, you have mislead the CUSTOMERS

     

    - when you lack the CORE ELEMENTS, you must at least be a decent HUMAN BEING and treat your customers with RESPECT

     

    - when you don’t treat your CUSTOMERS with RESPECT and lack CORE ELEMENTS for a released product, you will be ARSE FRACKED

     

    Hope you enjoyed it boss.

  • WonderweissMWonderweissM gvile, FLPosts: 127Member
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?

    Honestly, I hink if they tried to do a kickstarter, EVERYONE would assume that they are truly a scam and they are just tring to get money. I deffinitly would not give them any more money than I have (25$) and I dont think alot of other people would.

  • WonderweissMWonderweissM gvile, FLPosts: 127Member
    Originally posted by k44mos

    Mr creedgaming, for future reference “boss”,

     

    I might want to put into perspective a couple of things that you might have skipped during “REAL LIFE INC.” training:

     

    - when you promise CORE ELEMENTS for a product and that product is released without the CORE ELEMENTS, you have mislead the CUSTOMERS

     

    - when you lack the CORE ELEMENTS, you must at least be a decent HUMAN BEING and treat your customers with RESPECT

     

    - when you don’t treat your CUSTOMERS with RESPECT and lack CORE ELEMENTS for a released product, you will be ARSE FRACKED

     

    Hope you enjoyed it boss.

    Technically its not a released game. Your arguement might be " It is released but they are calling it beta", but it could very well just be beta. Not trying to debate you, just my opinion.

  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    Originally posted by Carilli
    http://thewarz.com/ no where says beta

    Cause it aint in beta anymore duh.... That was on there forever....

    So this sergey guy was a technical director at Riot Games.  Riot Games made League of Legends, the most played game in the world.  sergey made War Z, a game which claims to be the first Zombie MMO as the first thing it says on their site, but isn't even that.  It advertised itself as a full game with features that were not or may never be included and went for sale like that.  Then there was the issue where a dev with moderator powers in a steam subforum for the game added his own sites forum rules and started going permaban crazy on anyone who said bad things about the game, asked for a refund, or pretty much any whimsical reason.  Deleting threads was a way to cover his tracks.  They threatened to add customers seeking refunds to a "global blacklist" where making payments to other unrelated companies in the future might not work.

     

    Sergey - from technical director of the most played game in the world, to a laughingstock even among fellow shysters.

    Oh how the mighty have fallen.

  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Jacksonville, FLPosts: 985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by junzo316

    This is the most entertaining thread I have read in a while.  Thanks all for making this the beginning of a Merry Christmas!

     

    Your avatar is slightly disturbing in a way I can't explain.

  • NonderyonNonderyon GyulaPosts: 175Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?

    Honestly, I hink if they tried to do a kickstarter, EVERYONE would assume that they are truly a scam and they are just tring to get money. I deffinitly would not give them any more money than I have (25$) and I dont think alot of other people would.

    I mean, just good example the Star Citizen kickstarter, who help them got the full game later + in game bonuses...etc

  • Flex1Flex1 Cabo RojoPosts: 407Member
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    I do agree game descriptions should be transparent and very clear which they obviously weren't , the game shouldn't of been forsale until 2013 which is there fault too you don't charge for a game in beta.... But we don't know the circumstance they made of needed the capital to scale the game.... But it definitely wasn't a scam...

    even 2013 is too soon for this game. they need to take a time off and work on it untill its ready for release by 2015.


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  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?

    Honestly, I hink if they tried to do a kickstarter, EVERYONE would assume that they are truly a scam and they are just tring to get money. I deffinitly would not give them any more money than I have (25$) and I dont think alot of other people would.

    It's the people who still don't think they are a scam, who think it'll work out in the end that are the pinnacle of scam targets.

    The kind of people who continuously send money to Nigeria expecting a big payoff once the "taxes" and "documents" have been taken care of.  Then when they have used all their money, and used all the money of their church, and their wealthy Nigerian businessman stops contacting them, is when they go on Dateline to complain.

     

    Sergey - Nigerian Businessman from LA

  • WonderweissMWonderweissM gvile, FLPosts: 127Member
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?

    Honestly, I hink if they tried to do a kickstarter, EVERYONE would assume that they are truly a scam and they are just tring to get money. I deffinitly would not give them any more money than I have (25$) and I dont think alot of other people would.

    I mean, just good example the Star Citizen kickstarter, who help them got the full game later + in game bonuses...etc

    But the people that are funding his campaign believe that he can and will implemente the things he says he is, because he seems like a trustworthy guy. Alot of people hate the director/ whatever you call him of War Z, Sergy, so people will not want to back him.

  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by Flex1
    Originally posted by creedgaming
    I do agree game descriptions should be transparent and very clear which they obviously weren't , the game shouldn't of been forsale until 2013 which is there fault too you don't charge for a game in beta.... But we don't know the circumstance they made of needed the capital to scale the game.... But it definitely wasn't a scam...

    even 2013 is too soon for this game. they need to take a time off and work on it untill its ready for release by 2015.

    No they need to cease work on it, return every cent that was spent on it, and apologize.

  • ZyzraZyzra Madison, WIPosts: 354Member
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?

    Honestly, I hink if they tried to do a kickstarter, EVERYONE would assume that they are truly a scam and they are just tring to get money. I deffinitly would not give them any more money than I have (25$) and I dont think alot of other people would.

    I mean, just good example the Star Citizen kickstarter, who help them got the full game later + in game bonuses...etc

    But the people that are funding his campaign believe that he can and will implemente the things he says he is, because he seems like a trustworthy guy. Alot of people hate the director/ whatever you call him of War Z, Sergy, so people will not want to back him.

    Plus Star Citizen is hardly a direct port of that company's other game with a few NPC zombies added to it.

  • Hirocan1Hirocan1 Chicago, ILPosts: 3Member
    LMFAO this is so funny.... oh well anyway i brought the game... and got my refund the next 2 hours.... i've been playing games for a long time... and well this "War Z" is like the uncle we never talk about. Becuase he did unspeakalbe things... 
     
  • WonderweissMWonderweissM gvile, FLPosts: 127Member
    Originally posted by Zyzra
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?

    Honestly, I hink if they tried to do a kickstarter, EVERYONE would assume that they are truly a scam and they are just tring to get money. I deffinitly would not give them any more money than I have (25$) and I dont think alot of other people would.

    It's the people who still don't think they are a scam, who think it'll work out in the end that are the pinnacle of scam targets.

    The kind of people who continuously send money to Nigeria expecting a big payoff once the "taxes" and "documents" have been taken care of.  Then when they have used all their money, and used all the money of their church, and their wealthy Nigerian businessman stops contacting them, is when they go on Dateline to complain.

     

    Sergey - Nigerian Businessman from LA

    So now you are going to insult the people that play War Z. They are making a game, scam or not, and people are playing a game, scam or not. They are actually recieving a product and are enjoying it. There is no reason to insult a playerbase if they are enjoying what they are doing.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Spring Hill, TNPosts: 2,150Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Originally posted by WonderweissM
    Originally posted by Nonderyon
    Isnt it better when they make a game named as (randomly pick) Zombie War (...or something like that) and make official kickstarter stating they are low on budget instead of this mess?

    Honestly, I hink if they tried to do a kickstarter, EVERYONE would assume that they are truly a scam and they are just tring to get money. I deffinitly would not give them any more money than I have (25$) and I dont think alot of other people would.

    I mean, just good example the Star Citizen kickstarter, who help them got the full game later + in game bonuses...etc

    But the people that are funding his campaign believe that he can and will implemente the things he says he is, because he seems like a trustworthy guy. Alot of people hate the director/ whatever you call him of War Z, Sergy, so people will not want to back him.

    Hmmmm.

    I would hate to see your version of an untrustworthy guy o.0

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