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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by niceguy3978
    Originally posted by Corehaven
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Corehaven

    It's the overly vocal few, who, despite hating the game see the desperate need to post what they don't like about the game in every single GW2 thread. 

    I'm not even exaggerating.

     

    Check the GW2 forum here on the site.  Then please notice those saying they don't like the game.  Note their name and avatar.  Then go to the next thread.  Oh look there they are again.  And the next thread.  Again.  And the next thread.....again. 

     

    In fact, several of them are in THIS thread too!  So start here and work your way backwards through the threads and you'll see the same haters in every single thread.  Seriously.   I know people say, " It's just the same people hating the game in every thread." and I find that usually to be an exaggeration but this is not. 

     

    It literally is that bad.  Don't take my word for it.  Look through the GW2 threads.  I mean some of these posters are freaking relentless.  Its about a dozen people who never miss the opportunity to post in a GW2 thread and say something negative.

    ..Or the vocal minority who go into other game forums and shout out, "why don't you try Guild Wars 2!", even though GW2 doesn't meet the OP's requirements for a new game, or have anything to do with what he/she was saying. Multiple sandbox threads were infested with GW2 posts in the last month (Thank you mods for deleting those posts).  GW2 is not a sandbox, lol.

     

    You like GW2, that much is clear.  But others (perhaps renegades or ArenaNet shills) keep trying to pollute game conversations with how great GW2 is ... argghh!  People will play what they want to play.  GW2 is a casual game - great graphics, shabby gameplay.

     

    Instead of accusing everyone of being a hater, love the game you love, and enjoy it.  Just because I don't enjoy GW2 doesn't make me a hater.  I bought the damn game.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Yea okay.  I just think the same people kinda gripe about GW2 in thread, after thread, after thread.  As though they have nothing better to do.  Like I said I notice about the same dozen or so people doing it.  Not that I'm saying you are one of them.......

     

    I mean sure you posted in this thread, and that's good.  You stated your dislike.  So that's fine. 

     

    Oh and you did it in this thread....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5471899#5471899

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/372648/page/1

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5461377#5461377

    And this one.... which is really special cause you said " I strangely find talking about games like GW2 more interesting than actually playing them."  Which is like...so totally YOU! 

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5460594#5460594

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5458506#5458506

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5455459#5455459

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5455301#5455301

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5453288#5453288

    Again....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5452975#5452975

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5436075#5436075

    And that's about it except this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5429874#5429874

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5429865#5429865

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5414217#5414217

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5410500#5410500

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405365#5405365

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405218#5405218

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405117#5405117

    And this one.....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5399589#5399589

    And tired of linking posts even though there are somehow MORE.....

     

    But you're obviously not who I was talking about.  No need to get offended!  It's just that some people love to bash GW2 in just about every post, even when they're talking about other games in other threads.  Like you know, the people who say they don't like GW2 in a Swtor thread for instance, when the thread has nothing to do with GW2.  Thats the kinda thing that really drives me nuts. 

     

    Oh.....you did that.  Nevermind. 

    Wow, I've never seen someone go through this much effort to make someone else look  bad on an internet forum.  Do they have an award for mmorpgflamer of the year?

    I don't consider it flaming in the least.  He was pointing out Karteli's constant negativity regarding GW2 and the hypocrisy behind a comment like "GW2 fans are infesting sandbox threads".  He seems to have no problem bringing up the game in non-GW2 threads.  I'd say it's a double standard to expect differently of everyone else.

    I agree though, Corehaven could have saved himself a lot of time just linking to Karteli's profile.

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by elitero

    Its not hard when all the post are the same =)

    You read my mind lol

  • CorehavenCorehaven Colorado Springs, COPosts: 1,538Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by niceguy3978
    Originally posted by Corehaven
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Corehaven

    It's the overly vocal few, who, despite hating the game see the desperate need to post what they don't like about the game in every single GW2 thread. 

    I'm not even exaggerating.

     

    Check the GW2 forum here on the site.  Then please notice those saying they don't like the game.  Note their name and avatar.  Then go to the next thread.  Oh look there they are again.  And the next thread.  Again.  And the next thread.....again. 

     

    In fact, several of them are in THIS thread too!  So start here and work your way backwards through the threads and you'll see the same haters in every single thread.  Seriously.   I know people say, " It's just the same people hating the game in every thread." and I find that usually to be an exaggeration but this is not. 

     

    It literally is that bad.  Don't take my word for it.  Look through the GW2 threads.  I mean some of these posters are freaking relentless.  Its about a dozen people who never miss the opportunity to post in a GW2 thread and say something negative.

    ..Or the vocal minority who go into other game forums and shout out, "why don't you try Guild Wars 2!", even though GW2 doesn't meet the OP's requirements for a new game, or have anything to do with what he/she was saying. Multiple sandbox threads were infested with GW2 posts in the last month (Thank you mods for deleting those posts).  GW2 is not a sandbox, lol.

     

    You like GW2, that much is clear.  But others (perhaps renegades or ArenaNet shills) keep trying to pollute game conversations with how great GW2 is ... argghh!  People will play what they want to play.  GW2 is a casual game - great graphics, shabby gameplay.

     

    Instead of accusing everyone of being a hater, love the game you love, and enjoy it.  Just because I don't enjoy GW2 doesn't make me a hater.  I bought the damn game.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Yea okay.  I just think the same people kinda gripe about GW2 in thread, after thread, after thread.  As though they have nothing better to do.  Like I said I notice about the same dozen or so people doing it.  Not that I'm saying you are one of them.......

     

    I mean sure you posted in this thread, and that's good.  You stated your dislike.  So that's fine. 

     

    Oh and you did it in this thread....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5471899#5471899

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/372648/page/1

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5461377#5461377

    And this one.... which is really special cause you said " I strangely find talking about games like GW2 more interesting than actually playing them."  Which is like...so totally YOU! 

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5460594#5460594

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5458506#5458506

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5455459#5455459

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5455301#5455301

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5453288#5453288

    Again....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5452975#5452975

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5436075#5436075

    And that's about it except this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5429874#5429874

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5429865#5429865

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5414217#5414217

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5410500#5410500

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405365#5405365

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405218#5405218

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405117#5405117

    And this one.....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5399589#5399589

    And tired of linking posts even though there are somehow MORE.....

     

    But you're obviously not who I was talking about.  No need to get offended!  It's just that some people love to bash GW2 in just about every post, even when they're talking about other games in other threads.  Like you know, the people who say they don't like GW2 in a Swtor thread for instance, when the thread has nothing to do with GW2.  Thats the kinda thing that really drives me nuts. 

     

    Oh.....you did that.  Nevermind. 

    Wow, I've never seen someone go through this much effort to make someone else look  bad on an internet forum.  Do they have an award for mmorpgflamer of the year?

    LOL!

     

    It doesn't make me look bad, rather, it makes me look consistant.  I don't even need those links to tell you that GW2 is a great graphical game, but lacks the definition of MMORPG.

     

    Corehaven: Thanks for showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2 .. I couldn't have done it better myself!   .. If I linked all that I would have been trolling threads, but you did it for me, free of cost.. TY.

     

     

    Oh no need to thank me.  You've commented negatively in just about every GW2 thread in existence.  "Showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2" ?  No that's just the links to your fancy doo opinions.  Which I'm pretty sure you would use a giant laser beam to burn it into the freggin moon if you could. 

     

    The only saving grace here is that you seem to complain about Swtor even more.  I do wonder if there are actually any mmo's you actually DO LIKE.  Although if there were, you'd probably  just complain about those too. 

     

     

  • CorehavenCorehaven Colorado Springs, COPosts: 1,538Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S

     

    I agree though, Corehaven could have saved himself a lot of time just linking to Karteli's profile.

     

    Well I thought about that, and to my utter horror he complained about Swtor even more and I thought that poor game has been drug through the mud enough.  My thinking was, " Just go to his profile and look at all his GW2 bashing" and instead it was a Swtor bashing cookie with GW2 hate sprinkles. 

     

    In the meantime this is me.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfzLyPqko8w

    And yea the anvil was painful. 

     

     

  • KingJigglyKingJiggly Simpsonville, SCPosts: 777Member
    Originally posted by Corehaven
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by niceguy3978
    Originally posted by Corehaven
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Corehaven

    It's the overly vocal few, who, despite hating the game see the desperate need to post what they don't like about the game in every single GW2 thread. 

    I'm not even exaggerating.

     

    Check the GW2 forum here on the site.  Then please notice those saying they don't like the game.  Note their name and avatar.  Then go to the next thread.  Oh look there they are again.  And the next thread.  Again.  And the next thread.....again. 

     

    In fact, several of them are in THIS thread too!  So start here and work your way backwards through the threads and you'll see the same haters in every single thread.  Seriously.   I know people say, " It's just the same people hating the game in every thread." and I find that usually to be an exaggeration but this is not. 

     

    It literally is that bad.  Don't take my word for it.  Look through the GW2 threads.  I mean some of these posters are freaking relentless.  Its about a dozen people who never miss the opportunity to post in a GW2 thread and say something negative.

    ..Or the vocal minority who go into other game forums and shout out, "why don't you try Guild Wars 2!", even though GW2 doesn't meet the OP's requirements for a new game, or have anything to do with what he/she was saying. Multiple sandbox threads were infested with GW2 posts in the last month (Thank you mods for deleting those posts).  GW2 is not a sandbox, lol.

     

    You like GW2, that much is clear.  But others (perhaps renegades or ArenaNet shills) keep trying to pollute game conversations with how great GW2 is ... argghh!  People will play what they want to play.  GW2 is a casual game - great graphics, shabby gameplay.

     

    Instead of accusing everyone of being a hater, love the game you love, and enjoy it.  Just because I don't enjoy GW2 doesn't make me a hater.  I bought the damn game.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Yea okay.  I just think the same people kinda gripe about GW2 in thread, after thread, after thread.  As though they have nothing better to do.  Like I said I notice about the same dozen or so people doing it.  Not that I'm saying you are one of them.......

     

    I mean sure you posted in this thread, and that's good.  You stated your dislike.  So that's fine. 

     

    Oh and you did it in this thread....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5471899#5471899

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/372648/page/1

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5461377#5461377

    And this one.... which is really special cause you said " I strangely find talking about games like GW2 more interesting than actually playing them."  Which is like...so totally YOU! 

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5460594#5460594

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5458506#5458506

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5455459#5455459

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5455301#5455301

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5453288#5453288

    Again....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5452975#5452975

    Again...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5436075#5436075

    And that's about it except this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5429874#5429874

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5429865#5429865

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5414217#5414217

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5410500#5410500

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405365#5405365

    And this one....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405218#5405218

    And this one...

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5405117#5405117

    And this one.....

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5399589#5399589

    And tired of linking posts even though there are somehow MORE.....

     

    But you're obviously not who I was talking about.  No need to get offended!  It's just that some people love to bash GW2 in just about every post, even when they're talking about other games in other threads.  Like you know, the people who say they don't like GW2 in a Swtor thread for instance, when the thread has nothing to do with GW2.  Thats the kinda thing that really drives me nuts. 

     

    Oh.....you did that.  Nevermind. 

    Wow, I've never seen someone go through this much effort to make someone else look  bad on an internet forum.  Do they have an award for mmorpgflamer of the year?

    LOL!

     

    It doesn't make me look bad, rather, it makes me look consistant.  I don't even need those links to tell you that GW2 is a great graphical game, but lacks the definition of MMORPG.

     

    Corehaven: Thanks for showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2 .. I couldn't have done it better myself!   .. If I linked all that I would have been trolling threads, but you did it for me, free of cost.. TY.

     

     

    Oh no need to thank me.  You've commented negatively in just about every GW2 thread in existence.  "Showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2" ?  No that's just the links to your fancy doo opinions.  Which I'm pretty sure you would use a giant laser beam to burn it into the freggin moon if you could. 

     

    The only saving grace here is that you seem to complain about Swtor even more.  I do wonder if there are actually any mmo's you actually DO LIKE.  Although if there were, you'd probably  just complain about those too. 

     

     

    He isnt wrong Karteli, you are in every single gw2 thread. You spend more time in gw2 threads than you do sandbox.  

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Corehaven
    Originally posted by Karteli
    < SNIP >

    LOL!

     

    It doesn't make me look bad, rather, it makes me look consistant.  I don't even need those links to tell you that GW2 is a great graphical game, but lacks the definition of MMORPG.

     

    Corehaven: Thanks for showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2 .. I couldn't have done it better myself!   .. If I linked all that I would have been trolling threads, but you did it for me, free of cost.. TY.

     

     

    Oh no need to thank me.  You've commented negatively in just about every GW2 thread in existence.  "Showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2" ?  No that's just the links to your fancy doo opinions.  Which I'm pretty sure you would use a giant laser beam to burn it into the freggin moon if you could. 

     

    The only saving grace here is that you seem to complain about Swtor even more.  I do wonder if there are actually any mmo's you actually DO LIKE.  Although if there were, you'd probably  just complain about those too. 

    I realize you adore GW2.  That's fine.  If you actually read my posts, you might see that I compliment GW2 on a bunch of stuff too.  I don't hold you any differently than others, who love or hate GW2.

     

    And there were about 500 negative posts for GW2 in existance .. I didn't comment on every single one of them, now did I?

     

    I do complain about SWTOR even more than GW2... look at it this way, I complain about games I like, and SWTOR > GW2.  But that's because SWTOR is more of a game than GW2 will ever be.  Even with SWTOR's lifeless worlds, it still feels more alive than GW2.  /snap

     

    Feel good that I complain about GW2 more than I complain about WoW.

     

     

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,440Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Scarfe
    In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 

    ^^^^  This.

    I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.

    It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.

     


    Samoan Diamond

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Wizardry
    Originally posted by Scarfe
    In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 

    ^^^^  This.

    I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.

    It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.

     

    I don't get it.  Stirring up hype for your game is bad  now?  What does Scarfe's post have to do with anything negative on ANet's part?  Maybe I'm not seeing what you see.

  • KingJigglyKingJiggly Simpsonville, SCPosts: 777Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Corehaven
    Originally posted by Karteli
    < SNIP >

    LOL!

     

    It doesn't make me look bad, rather, it makes me look consistant.  I don't even need those links to tell you that GW2 is a great graphical game, but lacks the definition of MMORPG.

     

    Corehaven: Thanks for showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2 .. I couldn't have done it better myself!   .. If I linked all that I would have been trolling threads, but you did it for me, free of cost.. TY.

     

     

    Oh no need to thank me.  You've commented negatively in just about every GW2 thread in existence.  "Showing everyone the shortfalls of GW2" ?  No that's just the links to your fancy doo opinions.  Which I'm pretty sure you would use a giant laser beam to burn it into the freggin moon if you could. 

     

    The only saving grace here is that you seem to complain about Swtor even more.  I do wonder if there are actually any mmo's you actually DO LIKE.  Although if there were, you'd probably  just complain about those too. 

    I realize you adore GW2.  That's fine.  If you actually read my posts, you might see that I compliment GW2 on a bunch of stuff too.  I don't hold you any differently than others, who love or hate GW2.

     

    And there were about 500 negative posts for GW2 in existance .. I didn't comment on every single one of them, now did I?

     

    I do complain about SWTOR even more than GW2... look at it this way, I complain about games I like, and SWTOR > GW2.  But that's because SWTOR is more of a game than GW2 will ever be.  Even with SWTOR's lifeless worlds, it still feels more alive than GW2.  /snap

     

    Feel good that I complain about GW2 more than I complain about WoW.

     

     

    Yes... Feel the f2p rage... Feel it... 

    But seriously, I see why you dislike gw2 now. [mod edit]

     

  • NightgroperNightgroper Aunt Em''s, NEPosts: 76Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Wizardry
    Originally posted by Scarfe
    In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 

    ^^^^  This.

    I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.

    It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.

     

    I don't get it.  Stirring up hype for your game is bad  now?  What does Scarfe's post have to do with anything negative on ANet's part?  Maybe I'm not seeing what you see.

    You're damn right hype is bad. You should feel ashamed for showing excitement for anything. Everyone should be wearing their turtleneck sweaters, smoking in the corner, and scoffing at any project by any large company.

    The more I'm around the forums on this site, the more bitter I become.

  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Riverside, RIPosts: 3,265Member Uncommon
    I don't bash it. It's a nice little game, but it's a bit too casual for me.

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  • Alber_gamerAlber_gamer RomePosts: 557Member Uncommon

    Why does GW2 get so much bash and hate? For the same reason that Justin Bieber gets so much bash and hate, even though for my 15 years old niece he's the best thing since bread came sliced.

     

    If Justin Bieber was less popular, most people wouldn't bother to bash him. If he wasn't being sold as a superstar and actually was a proper singer, he wouldn't be hated.

     

     

    My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  • slickbizzleslickbizzle Matthews, NCPosts: 464Member

    There are the "I want to be unique and go against the grain" type bashers. They will always hate any game that is popular. 

     

    There are the "I have to be loyal to my game , by bad-mouthing every other game,  so my game doesn't shut down and all of it would have been for nothing!" type bashers.

     

    There are the bandwagon bashers.

     

    The list goes on. No rhyme or reason to it.  

     

    Or, they could simply not like it.

     

     

     

  • mindw0rkmindw0rk St-petersburgPosts: 1,351Member
    Originally posted by Voicekrack
    Guild Wars 2 is a great game, i've enjoyed it for a while now. Why that every time i get on mmorpg.com there are so many people bashing it?

    Because not everyone shares your opinion that its "a great game"?

    For me it feels like GW2 is only about doing same repetative DE's and trying to reach silly goal "cover 100% map". Not type of activity I want from MMORPGs. 

  • shingoukiehshingoukieh Fayetteville, NCPosts: 125Member
    I could deal with a lot of the typical complaints I hear but the one kicker for me is the combat...I really wish they either followed tera or wow combat....as some one mentioned earlier the combat is the same for all classes just different effects. Questing with this combat engine is boring.. I'm one of those gamers that stick with a game for a while to I decide its going now where(just quit playing d3) so I believe this game could get better.

    For the record I'm a hardcore gamer...I don't like casual games..even though I can only afford to play a few days out the weekday I still like to feel progress in my character...as of now I have no drive in playing. I just play to pass time..I have made no friends either...I have people on my friend list but they are all usually doing random things or hoping servers...so we talk but I never play with them since the first time we grouped...

    I think the game could be more social able but since like 2010 most mmorpgs I played have been anti or very little social able..I think the people who are very social able among mmorpgs are proly playing wow or the mmorpg they fell in love with..the rest are either mmo jumping or just grinding like hell..in swtor I remember people begging to play together in this its the opposite
  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Alber_gamer

    Why does GW2 get so much bash and hate? For the same reason that Justin Bieber gets so much bash and hate, even though for my 15 years old niece he's the best thing since bread came sliced.

     

    If Justin Bieber was less popular, most people wouldn't bother to bash him. If he wasn't being sold as a superstar and actually was a proper singer, he wouldn't be hated.

    This doesn't flow well... in orange and purple.

     

    Justin Bieber can't sing without an auto-tune, so no.  Just NO.  When he was younger, he had a good voice .. older, he never spent time learning how to sing as an adult, with his voice shift.  His fault, not the customers / listeners.  Listening to auto-tune is poison to music.

     

    GW2 can't possible generate as much dislike as Justin Bieber.  Even though GW2 is lacking in the social, longevity, and MMORPG categories, it can still be sort of fun to entertain ones-self, and fans can still say they are GW2 fans (which some proudly do).

     

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • shingoukiehshingoukieh Fayetteville, NCPosts: 125Member
    BTW...even though gw2 has its faults...its no where on the dissapointments of swtor...I think we all can agree on that one
  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by Wizardry
    Originally posted by Scarfe
    In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 

    ^^^^  This.

    I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.

    It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.

     

    I can tell you from my personal interaction with A.Net that they are not classless but really trying their best. I had some issues and they took care of them.

     

    I think thou dost protest too much.

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    "In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
    by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by shingoukieh
    BTW...even though gw2 has its faults...its no where on the dissapointments of swtor...I think we all can agree on that one

    I wish I could.  

  • TwoThreeFourTwoThreeFour Virginia, VAPosts: 2,131Member
    Originally posted by Nightgroper
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Wizardry
    Originally posted by Scarfe
    In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 

    ^^^^  This.

    I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.

    It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.

     

    I don't get it.  Stirring up hype for your game is bad  now?  What does Scarfe's post have to do with anything negative on ANet's part?  Maybe I'm not seeing what you see.

    You're damn right hype is bad. You should feel ashamed for showing excitement for anything. Everyone should be wearing their turtleneck sweaters, smoking in the corner, and scoffing at any project by any large company.

     

    You seem to get it XD.

  • TwoThreeFourTwoThreeFour Virginia, VAPosts: 2,131Member
    Originally posted by shingoukieh
    BTW...even though gw2 has its faults...its no where on the dissapointments of swtor...I think we all can agree on that one

    Dunno about that, several dellusional people were far more hurt by the reality of GW2 (specially so called fans who ragequit over ascended gear introduction) than analagous people seem to be by SWTOR.

     

    True fans, like myself, are more than happy with how GW2 feels and looks today.

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Sioux City, IAPosts: 3,828Member


    Originally posted by Nightgroper

    Originally posted by Eir_S


    Originally posted by Wizardry


    Originally posted by Scarfe
    In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 
    ^^^^  This.I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.
    I don't get it.  Stirring up hype for your game is bad  now?  What does Scarfe's post have to do with anything negative on ANet's part?  Maybe I'm not seeing what you see.
    You're damn right hype is bad. You should feel ashamed for showing excitement for anything. Everyone should be wearing their turtleneck sweaters, smoking in the corner, and scoffing at any project by any large company.
    Showing excitement for something and "hype" are two very different things.

    Showing excitement shows someone is looking forward to a game without placing said game upon a pedestal and worshiping the very ground it covers. Someone showing excitement for a game can be objective and see if it has any flaws.

    Hype is all out 100% praise for a game, no room for error. There are lots of links involved to quotes from devs and producers about what the game "is looking to do" but rarely any concrete facts. Terms are loosely used so the inferences can supply what the developers do not want to say outright. The game, and subsequently, the publishing company can do no wrong, in the eyes of the hype train riders. Remember the A-Net manifesto hype? What did it really say, specifically?

    Many times, attacks are made, pre-release, on other players asking simple questions for clarification or detail about the upcoming game. "It's still in beta." is the usual answer for any concerns from a hype-train rider. Nevermind that the game has been in development for years and the beta is the final step before release, so major concerns will NOT be made prior to release. Beta concerns are all about spit and polish.

    Hype leads to disappointment 99.9% of the time. Nothing ever made, nor ever to be made will live up to the hype. If I ever made a game, I would hope to all that is holy that nobody started a hype-train on it. Then again, I wouldn't make a game that soars at the top for 1-4 months and fades fast, which is what the hype-train is good for. Hype gets people to buy. Hype does not keep them playing.

    No. Hype is bad. In every sense of the word, hype is bad.

    Genuine excitement for an upcoming game is great! Just keep a level head and never get blinded. Don't hang on every word uttered by a developer, but rather read what they say and ask questions.

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR

  • darkbamydarkbamy MetropolisPosts: 111Member
    Originally posted by shingoukieh
    BTW...even though gw2 has its faults...its no where on the dissapointments of swtor...I think we all can agree on that one

    Kinda had more fun on tor then on GW2, atleast with tor you got a ''diffirent'' story with all the classes (and then at the end as always an endless grind)

     

    with GW2...its all the same, just because the game has dynamic events doesnt mean its any better then the other mmo's out there

    Also with GW2 it feels more like an all-out-grinding game, kinda like how Star Wars Galaxies was with the whole collection system (then again SWG was a sandbox..but thats a story for another time XD)

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by darkbamy
    Originally posted by shingoukieh
    BTW...even though gw2 has its faults...its no where on the dissapointments of swtor...I think we all can agree on that one

    Kinda had more fun on tor then on GW2, atleast with tor you got a ''diffirent'' story with all the classes (and then at the end as always an endless grind)

     

    with GW2...its all the same, just because the game has dynamic events doesnt mean its any better then the other mmo's out there

    Also with GW2 it feels more like an all-out-grinding game, kinda like how Star Wars Galaxies was with the whole collection system (then again SWG was a sandbox..but thats a story for another time XD)

    Just anecdotally, I spent a few months engaged with SWTOR before I got bored.  GW2 took less than a month .. I kept playing GW2 for another month feeling like I was missing something, but it never got better.

     

    I still play SWTOR, though as a F2P (full of complaints).  But I still play.  I'm trying to muster the energy to log on to GW2 for the holiday events.  No luck so far.  I am failing to bond with GW2.

     

    ArenaNet seems like a better company than EA (actually both are pretty bad) .. but I give kudos to ArenaNet for the fix of the gambling boxes at Thanksgiving.  I assure you, EA would not have done that.  But then came the next round for ArenaNet.... :(

     

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by AlBQuirky

     


    Originally posted by Nightgroper

    Originally posted by Eir_S


    Originally posted by Wizardry


    Originally posted by Scarfe
    In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 

    ^^^^  This.

     

    I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.

    It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.

     


    I don't get it.  Stirring up hype for your game is bad  now?  What does Scarfe's post have to do with anything negative on ANet's part?  Maybe I'm not seeing what you see.
    You're damn right hype is bad. You should feel ashamed for showing excitement for anything. Everyone should be wearing their turtleneck sweaters, smoking in the corner, and scoffing at any project by any large company.
    Showing excitement for something and "hype" are two very different things.

     

    Showing excitement shows someone is looking forward to a game without placing said game upon a pedestal and worshiping the very ground it covers. Someone showing excitement for a game can be objective and see if it has any flaws.

    Hype is all out 100% praise for a game, no room for error. There are lots of links involved to quotes from devs and producers about what the game "is looking to do" but rarely any concrete facts. Terms are loosely used so the inferences can supply what the developers do not want to say outright. The game, and subsequently, the publishing company can do no wrong, in the eyes of the hype train riders. Remember the A-Net manifesto hype? What did it really say, specifically?

    Many times, attacks are made, pre-release, on other players asking simple questions for clarification or detail about the upcoming game. "It's still in beta." is the usual answer for any concerns from a hype-train rider. Nevermind that the game has been in development for years and the beta is the final step before release, so major concerns will NOT be made prior to release. Beta concerns are all about spit and polish.

    Hype leads to disappointment 99.9% of the time. Nothing ever made, nor ever to be made will live up to the hype. If I ever made a game, I would hope to all that is holy that nobody started a hype-train on it. Then again, I wouldn't make a game that soars at the top for 1-4 months and fades fast, which is what the hype-train is good for. Hype gets people to buy. Hype does not keep them playing.

    No. Hype is bad. In every sense of the word, hype is bad.

    Genuine excitement for an upcoming game is great! Just keep a level head and never get blinded. Don't hang on every word uttered by a developer, but rather read what they say and ask questions.

    The problem is people are overreacting to what the developers say. Take all the archage hype - people have read so much into the game, we have no clue as to want it really will be.

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    by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

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