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Massively votes GW2 best MMO of the year

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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Zalmon
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Zalmon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Zalmon
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    Originally posted by Thebigthrill

    SWTOR won the year before.

    Anyone can win this trophy.

     

    yeah its because they limit it to a year. SWTOR was the only big thing released that year unless my memory fails me.

    And there is not much compeition this year either. GW2 is the only high profiled MMO with huge hype was released this year.

    AHH - TERA and TSW were both released this year also. And the 2nd chapter to Rift was (which by all accounts seems to really help the game). So, yes, there were other games - NEXT!!!

    Yeah TSW high profile..what? and Tera again what? sorry bro...there was hardly any compeition this year just like how SWTOR had no compeition last year. But you must feel really good about yourself for adding NEXT at the end of your reply.

    *claps*

    "Hardly any" is a little different than "none".  People actually expected a lot more from the MMO's released in 2012 than they did in 2011, and look what happened... it's not GW2's fault that the other MMO's released this year were not as good.  This year had two major expansions released, one for Rift and one for WoW, along with 2 or 3 other MMO's...

    GW2 made them forgettable messes (ie: Tera and TSW, not the expansions to quality games mentioned above) in comparison.  SWTOR didn't have to do anything but show up.

    To point out something interesting GW2 was also awarded the biggest disappointment of 2012 on same page which gave it best game award. I don't know i find this a very screwed up and mixed result.

    As far as compeition goes.. GW2 had a huge advert campaign behind it and one manifesto video was enough to put it on the top of hype and anticipation. That is why i used the word 'high profiled'. No other MMO ahd such a  backing or blew things out of proportion with statements like 'we want to beat WOW in sales'. So yeah GW2 had no compeition because the only release was one low key TSW with next to no advertising, an asian MMO Tera and one expansion for Rift. But if you want to call that compeition sure..but for me GW2 hardly had any.

    I don't know why you find the Biggest Disappointment thing so confusing.  It's obviously one crybaby who wanted to get his way.. but no one's going to remember his tiny little stab at a colossus.

     It was runner up anyhow, by an apparent TSW fanboy from what I read earlier.

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  • ezpz77ezpz77 Beale, CAPosts: 227Member
    GW2 deserves best MMO this year. It's only competition was with TSW which was going to be a niche game from day one, and an expansion for a game nearly a decade old. It's sort of like a collegiate athlete beating a fath Goth kid and a 50 year old dad at a game of basketball. 
  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,284Member
    I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

    Because i can.
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    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • ZalmonZalmon Bloomington, INPosts: 319Member
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Zalmon
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Zalmon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Zalmon
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    Originally posted by Thebigthrill

    SWTOR won the year before.

    Anyone can win this trophy.

     

    yeah its because they limit it to a year. SWTOR was the only big thing released that year unless my memory fails me.

    And there is not much compeition this year either. GW2 is the only high profiled MMO with huge hype was released this year.

    AHH - TERA and TSW were both released this year also. And the 2nd chapter to Rift was (which by all accounts seems to really help the game). So, yes, there were other games - NEXT!!!

    Yeah TSW high profile..what? and Tera again what? sorry bro...there was hardly any compeition this year just like how SWTOR had no compeition last year. But you must feel really good about yourself for adding NEXT at the end of your reply.

    *claps*

    "Hardly any" is a little different than "none".  People actually expected a lot more from the MMO's released in 2012 than they did in 2011, and look what happened... it's not GW2's fault that the other MMO's released this year were not as good.  This year had two major expansions released, one for Rift and one for WoW, along with 2 or 3 other MMO's...

    GW2 made them forgettable messes (ie: Tera and TSW, not the expansions to quality games mentioned above) in comparison.  SWTOR didn't have to do anything but show up.

    To point out something interesting GW2 was also awarded the biggest disappointment of 2012 on same page which gave it best game award. I don't know i find this a very screwed up and mixed result.

    As far as compeition goes.. GW2 had a huge advert campaign behind it and one manifesto video was enough to put it on the top of hype and anticipation. That is why i used the word 'high profiled'. No other MMO ahd such a  backing or blew things out of proportion with statements like 'we want to beat WOW in sales'. So yeah GW2 had no compeition because the only release was one low key TSW with next to no advertising, an asian MMO Tera and one expansion for Rift. But if you want to call that compeition sure..but for me GW2 hardly had any.

    I don't know why you find the Biggest Disappointment thing so confusing.  It's obviously one crybaby who wanted to get his way.. but no one's going to remember his tiny little stab at a colossus.

    So we should only consider the opinions of those who praise GW2 and think it is best MMO of 2012? and everyone else is cry baby or bitter fanboy of TSW and should be ignored? i am sorry if i don't take your word for it.

  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

     What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    Originally posted by Eir_S

    I don't know why you find the Biggest Disappointment thing so confusing.  It's obviously one crybaby who wanted to get his way.. but no one's going to remember his tiny little stab at a colossus.

    The same can be said for anything Anti TSW or Tera, your defence is flawed and pure speculation.

    Oh well, it's still not going to be remembered when the cards are down.  He's still a crybaby and there was jack shit to suggest it was a disappointment.

    "Where's my guesting?"  Yeah sounds like a runner up for biggest disappointment of the year to me.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    GW2 deserves best MMO this year. It's only competition was with TSW which was going to be a niche game from day one, and an expansion for a game nearly a decade old. It's sort of like a collegiate athlete beating a fath Goth kid and a 50 year old dad at a game of basketball. 

    You forgot TERA which had ads everywhere before it came out (I even had a leaflet in a DVD movie I purchased before it came out).

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  • ezpz77ezpz77 Beale, CAPosts: 227Member
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    GW2 deserves best MMO this year. It's only competition was with TSW which was going to be a niche game from day one, and an expansion for a game nearly a decade old. It's sort of like a collegiate athlete beating a fath Goth kid and a 50 year old dad at a game of basketball. 

    You forgot TERA which had ads everywhere before it came out (I even had a leaflet in a DVD movie I purchased before it came out).

     

    Tera wasn't ever in the running for MMO of the year. 

  • NaughtyPNaughtyP Edmonton, ABPosts: 793Member

    GW2 was fun for me for a while, but ANET doesn't know how to fix the major problems (culling anyone?) and they are about as good at communication as EA. In terms of MMOs though, it's still easily better than most. That being said, the competition this year wasn't exactly mindblowingly great either.

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

    I don't really think it's more innovative even though it is very fresh and unique, but it sure is just as fun but in a different way.  I think GW2 is fresh and unique in how it plays compared to most every other fantasy game out there.  TSW plays totally different than GW2 and I don't compare the innovations they each offer.

    Funcom could have really had the larger fan support early on had they just started with B2P.  They really threw that one away.  It's a pity because the game  deserved a little better than that.

  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,284Member
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

     What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

    Your class is something completely created by you using a pool of abilites, this makes you open to fight however you feel like fighting. Dungeons are more than just DPS checks, Endgame content requires thought and strategy people who claim you only need 10.4 gear and can burn anything fail to mention that you can only get that 10.4 gear via running these Nightmare dungeons.

    Clothing has no aspect of armor or stats meaning that you can wear whatever you want without restriction.

    When questing instead of just getting ahandful of quests doing them and going back you are to grab them one at a time, each quest updates on its own and has usually around 5 or 8 updated missions within it.

    Quests are handed in, in the field so you dont have to run back your the Quest giver unless you are actually retrieveing something.

    Investigation missions require the use of Outside sources to complete which is attainable via the ingame web browser they give you.

    The game is focus around Build over gear until you hit the end game areas.

    Because i can.
    I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • PurutzilPurutzil East Stroudsburg, PAPosts: 2,923Member Uncommon

    Thats nice, doesn't change the fact for me GW2 was just the weakest themepark MMo I played in some time. Sorry I really can't help it, my tinted goggles didn't work to detract me from the iffy combat and the fact the way they did the 'same old same old' in a way that just got old quick. 

     

    Oh and... SWTOR, game of the year after being out a few days. Remember that? Yeah, I don't bother really taking anything like these into much consideration, even if it was a game I really enjoyed greatly.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,187Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Foomerang

     


    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)
    I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!
    Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)

     

    And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Foomerang

     


    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)
    I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!
    Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)

     

    And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*

    Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,284Member
    I will fully admit that GW2 is a good game for what it is. I'm not going to slander it with useless nonsense claiming to be e expert. However given the time i was aloted in the trial the game really didnt feel all that special to me. The only thing i felt they did that was actually innovative was how they changed questing. Which is why i feel that TSW does deserve the innovative title more than GW2, However GW2 still being a good game on its own does deserve GOTY

    Because i can.
    I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • hikaru77hikaru77 buenos airesPosts: 1,035Member Uncommon
    I still dont understand why if the game is that great it keep losing active players everysingle day, even more faster than D3, and games like swtor are more active now, 1 year later, than an overhype game like gw2 (game of the year).  
  • Lazarus71Lazarus71 Celina, OHPosts: 1,025Member Uncommon

    What really confuses me is why anyone needs a website,magazine or other player to validate their enjoyment or dislike of a game. All that should matter to you is your opinion of the game. If you like it play it, if not move on and find something you do enjoy.

    P.S. I do enjoy GW2..... game of the year though, not to me.

    No signature, I don't have a pen

  • ThorbrandThorbrand West Palm Beach, FLPosts: 1,198Member
    It all means nothing since you can actually review a game as you truly see it without getting sued by the said game.
  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,564Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by Torvaldr Originally posted by Foomerang   Originally posted by Torvaldr Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)
    I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!
    Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)  
    And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*
    Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

    I cannot BELIEVE a combat centric, rng cash shop, grindfest made goty omgwtf!!!! There will be no living with those awful fanboys now!

    Better? ;)

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by Foomerang

     


    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Foomerang  

    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)
    I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!
    Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)  
    And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*
    Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

     

    I cannot BELIEVE a combat centric, rng cash shop, grindfest made goty omgwtf!!!! There will be no living with those awful fanboys now!

     

    Better? ;)

    Phew.. yes, much.  Thanks, now I can continue to stew angrily about nothing. lol

  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

     What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

    Your class is something completely created by you using a pool of abilites, this makes you open to fight however you feel like fighting. Dungeons are more than just DPS checks, Endgame content requires thought and strategy people who claim you only need 10.4 gear and can burn anything fail to mention that you can only get that 10.4 gear via running these Nightmare dungeons.

    Clothing has no aspect of armor or stats meaning that you can wear whatever you want without restriction.

    When questing instead of just getting ahandful of quests doing them and going back you are to grab them one at a time, each quest updates on its own and has usually around 5 or 8 updated missions within it.

    Quests are handed in, in the field so you dont have to run back your the Quest giver unless you are actually retrieveing something.

    Investigation missions require the use of Outside sources to complete which is attainable via the ingame web browser they give you.

    The game is focus around Build over gear until you hit the end game areas.

     I've heard enough "same old same old" regarding parts of TSW (trinity, static world and quests, etc) that it's never actually crossed my radar, but if I ever do tire of GW2 I may give it a look. No promises... I'm not remotely close to tiring of GW2.

    I'll keep an open mind, just don't tell anyone.

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Foomerang

     


    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Foomerang  

    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)
    I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!
    Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)  
    And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*
    Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

     

    I cannot BELIEVE a combat centric, rng cash shop, grindfest made goty omgwtf!!!! There will be no living with those awful fanboys now!

     

    Better? ;)

     Eir's apparently easier to satisfy than I am... you didn't mention "WoW-clone" however so I can't give this high ratings.

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,284Member
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Rayshe
    I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

     What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

    Your class is something completely created by you using a pool of abilites, this makes you open to fight however you feel like fighting. Dungeons are more than just DPS checks, Endgame content requires thought and strategy people who claim you only need 10.4 gear and can burn anything fail to mention that you can only get that 10.4 gear via running these Nightmare dungeons.

    Clothing has no aspect of armor or stats meaning that you can wear whatever you want without restriction.

    When questing instead of just getting ahandful of quests doing them and going back you are to grab them one at a time, each quest updates on its own and has usually around 5 or 8 updated missions within it.

    Quests are handed in, in the field so you dont have to run back your the Quest giver unless you are actually retrieveing something.

    Investigation missions require the use of Outside sources to complete which is attainable via the ingame web browser they give you.

    The game is focus around Build over gear until you hit the end game areas.

     I've heard enough "same old same old" regarding parts of TSW (trinity, static world and quests, etc) that it's never actually crossed my radar, but if I ever do tire of GW2 I may give it a look. No promises... I'm not remotely close to tiring of GW2.

    I'll keep an open mind, just don't tell anyone.

    Awesome i wish we had more people like you. Oh and i forgot one. Reticle targeting, Allows you to target something without clicking on it. Gives it a more actionny feel  but is more DPS focused.

    Because i can.
    I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • TorgrimTorgrim GothenburgPosts: 2,088Member
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by evilastro

    Just when you thought it was safe to take off the tin foil hats, another site has claimed that GW2 is the best MMO of the year.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/massivelys-best-of-2012-awards/

    Themepark hate club unite!  Tell everyone how they are wrong to enjoy this game!

    They can enjoy the game as much as they like but GW 2, and ThemeParks in general, are like McDonalds. Garbage and not a proper food (mmo).

    I'm loving the angst these awards are causing.  Remember a week or so ago when you and yours panning the Time award and said that it didn't matter because it wasn't a real gaming site.  Now that a real gaming site has presented the award it all comes down to "nuh uh - neener neener".

    It's a damn awesome game whether you like it or not.

    I am sure it is an awesome game (for some) but it is a crappy MMORPG. And massively is wrong saying that it is.

     

    Can you please tell us how a proper MMORPG should be in your opinion?

    One based on virtual, persistant world. No instances, no quest hubs and level bracketted zones. A world which is like a real world, i.e. not constructed but rather evolved organically.

     

    Does such fantasy MMO exist?

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by Torgrim
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by evilastro

    Just when you thought it was safe to take off the tin foil hats, another site has claimed that GW2 is the best MMO of the year.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/massivelys-best-of-2012-awards/

    Themepark hate club unite!  Tell everyone how they are wrong to enjoy this game!

    They can enjoy the game as much as they like but GW 2, and ThemeParks in general, are like McDonalds. Garbage and not a proper food (mmo).

    I'm loving the angst these awards are causing.  Remember a week or so ago when you and yours panning the Time award and said that it didn't matter because it wasn't a real gaming site.  Now that a real gaming site has presented the award it all comes down to "nuh uh - neener neener".

    It's a damn awesome game whether you like it or not.

    I am sure it is an awesome game (for some) but it is a crappy MMORPG. And massively is wrong saying that it is.

     

    Can you please tell us how a proper MMORPG should be in your opinion?

    One based on virtual, persistant world. No instances, no quest hubs and level bracketted zones. A world which is like a real world, i.e. not constructed but rather evolved organically.

     

    Does such fantasy MMO exist?

    None exsists because it is too hard to to program for. It would be like the Designers/programmers playing God. In science, for example, look how many computers it is takeing to find intelligent life in the planet and that is a one question problem. A world like that would need computational power that does not exsist currently even in our most advanced super-computers.

     

    They think some of the up and coming Sandboxes are like that but they will have huge limits on what you can and can't do and the life certainly will not be organic - more static than anything.

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