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  • sgtalonsgtalon Lenox, MIPosts: 128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Siveria
    Like any f2p online title, especally since its a fps, I bet about 75-80% of the playerbase is probally using a aimbot of some kind, since its not hard to find fi you just try to look. These types of games are always infested with cheaters, its why I never play them, its no fun playing against people using a program that gives them perfect aim.

    75-80%? You are crazy.

     

    The typical number of hackers in a Current - Popular FPS is less that 15%. 

     

    I have been playing the game since June. I know what the game feels like with no hackers. I also know what it is now. And i think that the real number of hackers in PS2 is in the range of 5%-10% or less. 

    I have witnessed blatant hackers a couple times in the last few weeks. The others that might have been were not significantly better than me. So if a crappy player gets a hack that makes it easier to spot me like a wall hack or a skin thing, they probably suck anyways and it doesn't help them.

     

    Just makes the game more of a challenge. Bring it on!

  • sgtalonsgtalon Lenox, MIPosts: 128Member Uncommon

    Hey Doom,

     

    I am not sure about that one. I don't have the Chaingun now, but I did in Beta and i noticed that if you are very easy on the trigger and only fire short bursts the Chaingun can be quite accurate. I was able to get kills from pretty far away with some patience.

     

    I was just in a fight on the hill up to TI Alloys last night and i was killing snipers in the rocks from almost at Ceres. Probably 200m+ with my Medic TRV. I am pretty sure someone was thinking I was a hacker because i kept swinging around to their flank and killing them.

     

    If you had been talking about a Shotgun or Pistol i would ahve to agree that something is suspicious but not so sure with the Chaingun.

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,260Member Uncommon

    I have days /played. I THINK I've seen two. 

     

    It's no where near the amount as AION, or GW2. PS2 probably has 2-3% the hackers those other games have.

  • zomard100zomard100 karlovacPosts: 228Member
    Originally posted by Rhoklaw

    I haven't played the game enough to know what weapons do what for all 3 sides, but as a VS player, I'm using the most damage heavy sniper rifle and I never get a 1 shot kill unless its BR4 or lower. I'm BR15 now and I'm getting 1 shot sniped A LOT and I know people are not headshot experts this much.

    I've also run into a group of TR who all seem to be very well coordinated but thats different. Teamspeak and Ventrillo is almost as good as having ESP if people are calling out targets. So yes, it's hard to tell who is hacking and who just has a really good group of players working well together.

    When it comes to FPS, I'm usually sitting around 1.0 K/D ratio and I consider that decent. When I see people getting upwards of 5+ K/D ratio, thats when I begin to question their authenticity. I'm not saying they are aimbotting, but having hacks like ESP is enough to achieve initiative for an easy kill.

    Well you are wrong with that. Most of kids will snipe you with headshot and it is very rare  they miss you. It is hard for older mmorpg players to fight in mmofps, you don't have good  eye and reflexes like kids. If you are over 30 and you spend most of the time playing games like, wow,tor,gw you really don't stand a chance against young fps players. Thats why most of the time old guys think they fight against hackers in mmofps. Yes sure some of them are always there but not in so big numbers

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Speak for yourself I'm 40 and sitting on a 1.6 ratio.

    It's hardly sprinting or weight lifting.
  • RedrumickeyRedrumickey Phila., PAPosts: 13Member
    Originally posted by zomard100
    Originally posted by Rhoklaw

    I haven't played the game enough to know what weapons do what for all 3 sides, but as a VS player, I'm using the most damage heavy sniper rifle and I never get a 1 shot kill unless its BR4 or lower. I'm BR15 now and I'm getting 1 shot sniped A LOT and I know people are not headshot experts this much.

    I've also run into a group of TR who all seem to be very well coordinated but thats different. Teamspeak and Ventrillo is almost as good as having ESP if people are calling out targets. So yes, it's hard to tell who is hacking and who just has a really good group of players working well together.

    When it comes to FPS, I'm usually sitting around 1.0 K/D ratio and I consider that decent. When I see people getting upwards of 5+ K/D ratio, thats when I begin to question their authenticity. I'm not saying they are aimbotting, but having hacks like ESP is enough to achieve initiative for an easy kill.

    Well you are wrong with that. Most of kids will snipe you with headshot and it is very rare  they miss you. It is hard for older mmorpg players to fight in mmofps, you don't have good  eye and reflexes like kids. If you are over 30 and you spend most of the time playing games like, wow,tor,gw you really don't stand a chance against young fps players. Thats why most of the time old guys think they fight against hackers in mmofps. Yes sure some of them are always there but not in so big numbers

    Thats the dumbest thing I ever heard ! Old heads come from time when RPG was how you played and cheaters were look down on. Know body wanted to play or befreind a cheater. Today cheating a way alife and only a fool and a loser wont cheat to win  hey the next guys is so why not you. 

  • ElijarhElijarh ViennaPosts: 73Member

    Played lots of PS2 and have seen the odd strange happening and experienced the unexplained death through wall. That said I saw a enemy shooting through a gate shield two days ago, I not sure If its a bug, know issue or indeed a skill!? part from that I believe they should just WATCH the crooks and WAIT let the cheaters amass the ranks and skills, certs etc then Ban! . :D. In my eyes that would be more painfull than banning a Rank 5 cheater only for him/her to restart over and carry on cheating under a new account. I'm Loving PS2 thou shed loads of screaming fun.! 

    Said my bit :)

     

    Eli

  • sgtalonsgtalon Lenox, MIPosts: 128Member Uncommon

    I had something really weird happen to me last night. I was teleporting into a HIGHLY contested Bio Lab and somehow got stuck in the wall of the teleport room. With the wierd clipping plane i was able to see AND SHOOT the guys hiding behind the room. Then i walked out of the wall... Not sure how this all happened but it definitely could have been seen as hacking. I know if i was the guy getting shot I would have thought it was.

     

    So... I wonder how many circumstances like this have been reported as hacking when it is really just a bug.

  • WolfenprideWolfenpride San''doria, WIPosts: 3,988Member
    Originally posted by sgtalon

    I had something really weird happen to me last night. I was teleporting into a HIGHLY contested Bio Lab and somehow got stuck in the wall of the teleport room. With the wierd clipping plane i was able to see AND SHOOT the guys hiding behind the room. Then i walked out of the wall... Not sure how this all happened but it definitely could have been seen as hacking. I know if i was the guy getting shot I would have thought it was.

     

    So... I wonder how many circumstances like this have been reported as hacking when it is really just a bug.

    I've also found a neat exploit, in high constested battles shields stop rendering at a certain distance, as an ESF I was able to shoot the vehicles behind it despite the generator still being up.

    I guess I should report it next time i'm on. image

  • kingj0nkingj0n Brownsville, TXPosts: 14Member
    Originally posted by tranceauf
    Where are these hacks. I want in on it. Ps2 is a free game it's like the ultimate game to cheat cause you can always make a new account!

    And your purpose of cheating?

    I can see cheating in single player games, but a shooter game that you are wanting to enjoy. I don't see the enjoyment of looking good while cheating, no one cares about you.

     

    The only thing I see it as, is just trolling. Just to piss people off and thinking it's fun. Then they really do need to look at their life.

  • kingj0nkingj0n Brownsville, TXPosts: 14Member
    Originally posted by zomard100
    Originally posted by Rhoklaw

    I haven't played the game enough to know what weapons do what for all 3 sides, but as a VS player, I'm using the most damage heavy sniper rifle and I never get a 1 shot kill unless its BR4 or lower. I'm BR15 now and I'm getting 1 shot sniped A LOT and I know people are not headshot experts this much.

    I've also run into a group of TR who all seem to be very well coordinated but thats different. Teamspeak and Ventrillo is almost as good as having ESP if people are calling out targets. So yes, it's hard to tell who is hacking and who just has a really good group of players working well together.

    When it comes to FPS, I'm usually sitting around 1.0 K/D ratio and I consider that decent. When I see people getting upwards of 5+ K/D ratio, thats when I begin to question their authenticity. I'm not saying they are aimbotting, but having hacks like ESP is enough to achieve initiative for an easy kill.

    Well you are wrong with that. Most of kids will snipe you with headshot and it is very rare  they miss you. It is hard for older mmorpg players to fight in mmofps, you don't have good  eye and reflexes like kids. If you are over 30 and you spend most of the time playing games like, wow,tor,gw you really don't stand a chance against young fps players. Thats why most of the time old guys think they fight against hackers in mmofps. Yes sure some of them are always there but not in so big numbers

    Wow, lol. Get out of la la land. When you grow up, you'll know that what you're saying is a bunch of BS. I am sure you will not keep thinking like that, since you're obviously a little teen.

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    Competitive play, I'm a 3:1 KDR.

    In noob places, I can get to 20:1  even 54:1... No camping.

    Sound helps

    However, I haven't played PS2. I'm downloading it now just to see. In many games, people always scream of hackers, hell, I've been banned from many servers because they thought I was hacking. I admined for a few servers and I've watched, and I can pretty much tell who are and who aren't. Not sure if you can spectate players on this game. It'll be hard to come to a conclusion without watching them. If the person who is watching have piss poor sound, then they cannot tell if the person is using "wall hacks" or not.

    Players who like to camp at the same location of a popular area or spot, expect it to get shot as soon as people go in. If no one sees anyone and goes in, of couse people WILL shoot towards the spot where they think players are if they know the map or location. If they want to keep their KDR up. It's better to do that then to go in and look and get shot by the camper.

     

    Anyways, I hope the game is really as fun as people said it was. I watched my brother when he started, and it seemed like a bunch of spawn camping. Then the place got tooken over. He spawned in a different location, so it doesn't seem bad now. If the people are taking something over, they don't want you to spawn there. So lets see how this game goes.

  • ZinzanZinzan NorthPosts: 1,351Member
    Originally posted by kingj0n
    Originally posted by zomard100
    Originally posted by Rhoklaw

    I haven't played the game enough to know what weapons do what for all 3 sides, but as a VS player, I'm using the most damage heavy sniper rifle and I never get a 1 shot kill unless its BR4 or lower. I'm BR15 now and I'm getting 1 shot sniped A LOT and I know people are not headshot experts this much.

    I've also run into a group of TR who all seem to be very well coordinated but thats different. Teamspeak and Ventrillo is almost as good as having ESP if people are calling out targets. So yes, it's hard to tell who is hacking and who just has a really good group of players working well together.

    When it comes to FPS, I'm usually sitting around 1.0 K/D ratio and I consider that decent. When I see people getting upwards of 5+ K/D ratio, thats when I begin to question their authenticity. I'm not saying they are aimbotting, but having hacks like ESP is enough to achieve initiative for an easy kill.

    Well you are wrong with that. Most of kids will snipe you with headshot and it is very rare  they miss you. It is hard for older mmorpg players to fight in mmofps, you don't have good  eye and reflexes like kids. If you are over 30 and you spend most of the time playing games like, wow,tor,gw you really don't stand a chance against young fps players. Thats why most of the time old guys think they fight against hackers in mmofps. Yes sure some of them are always there but not in so big numbers

    Wow, lol. Get out of la la land. When you grow up, you'll know that what you're saying is a bunch of BS. I am sure you will not keep thinking like that, since you're obviously a little teen.

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    Competitive play, I'm a 3:1 KDR.

    In noob places, I can get to 20:1  even 54:1... No camping.

    Sound helps

    However, I haven't played PS2....

    PS2 isn't like COD or BF, if you have not played the game, your inferences are not valid.

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  • Threatlevel0Threatlevel0 Elizabethtown, KYPosts: 165Member

    I've encounted one.   A TR player who would teleport behind you like Deadpool.   My squadmate was pissed, but I found it kind of fun.   It was like having a boss battle.   Even managed to kill him once.   Was in the Freyr Amp Station, he probably got me six times in total, three times repairing generators he teleported almost inside me, since i was backed into the corner behind the generator, and a few other times in random places.   And once while I had just repaired a turret I saw him crossing the snow outside the base in the distance.   So I hopped in the turret, fired a shot at him and poof he disappeared.  So i exited the vehicle and poof he teleports behind me.    Haha, I still thought it was fun though....

     

     

    Another time in Freyr Amp Station, on Soltech Server, everyone froze.   But me, I was just repairing turrets.   And I noticed an enemy and friendly just running in place.   Figured the both d/c'd or something, but then I found more.   An enemy sunderer and a group of enemies all just frozen in time, one mid-air with his jetpack.   A Vanu MAX on the wall just shooting into the sky at a friendly frozen above him.    So I went through them all with my shotgun, using all the ammo, got all the certs like everything was normal.   Then I went ahead and finished repairing turrets, moved on to the next based and everything was normal.  Every player was moving, so I have no idea what happened....   Or what the perspective was from those that I killed.    So anyone that died mysterisousily on Soltech a few days ago at the Amp Station on Essamir, I'm sorry.     :p     

  • RealPvPisFPSRealPvPisFPS St.Louis, MOPosts: 42Member

    I was not in the game long enough to get an accurate count on the percentage of hackers in it. I didn't find the game interesting enough to keep playing either and I'm a huge FPS gamer.

     

    However here is a fact for many to ponder.

    Hackers are in every FPS game but is manageable to still keep playing. In mmorpg's that have PvP or are PvP centric almost everyone is using script programs to basically...yup....cheat. I find I have an easier time dealing with a few hackers in FPS games because I can still kill them regardless of the fact verses mmorpg's in PvP where there's no way in hell I have a chance against scriptors.

     

    Overall I think the majority of honest gamers are completely fed up with multiplayer FPS games and mmorpg's which is why co-op games are a huge success nowadays. This is where the gaming market is headed because more honest gamers would rather have that multiplayer game structure than the others and all of those that hack and use script programs can take a bow, you're the ones who have ruined multipler games for the honest players.

     

    What we need going forward in multiplayer games is more co-op and private servers. MMORPG's are a dying breed nowadays, the genre has lost it's luster. The F2P model is for companies to make more profit with a cr@ptastic game play experience for the gamer. There is only a few decent titles out at the moment  worth trying.

     

    2013 will be a far better year for gamers especially from what I've seen in development. 2012 for me will be the year of the biggest hyped and worse failure of a game I can remember since SWG which is War Z, what a let down. I will not miss 2012 it was a sucky year.

  • TinybinaTinybina Boondocks, TXPosts: 2,130Member

    Seeing tons of them, yesturday we had a few somehow slip into our Allatum bio Defense and start 1 shoting people with a shotgun.  We had no clue how they could get past our defenses... Then this morning im hiding in a corner in a building and all of a sudden this guy drops down from the ceiling and lands on top of me, complete with a drop animation and all.... Keep in mind I am in a small building with only 2 side doors to enter and exit out of and that is it, no top entrances and certainly nothing above my head... He just Feel through the freaking ceiling and landed right on me.. I thought it might be a glitch but 1 min earlier I heard someone call out "spotted a nme medic" which I just so happen to be.. So I took off and went into that building...

     

    Reporting is ineffective and is comical since that is all you can do /report... No way to give a detail of what happend just /report (players name)....

    I knew SOE was going to pretty much just blow this aspect of the game off, I just had no idea how bad..

    All I can say is prepare to be Aimbotted and Wallhack shot when you play this game, it will happen OFTEN....

     

    Great Work SOE you DID IT AGIAN!

     

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  • Threatlevel0Threatlevel0 Elizabethtown, KYPosts: 165Member
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Reporting is ineffective and is comical since that is all you can do /report... No way to give a detail of what happend just /report (players name)....

    I knew SOE was going to pretty much just blow this aspect of the game off, I just had no idea how bad..

    All I can say is prepare to be Aimbotted and Wallhack shot when you play this game, it will happen OFTEN....

     

    Great Work SOE you DID IT AGIAN!

     

     

    Yeah, I totally agree with this.

     

    While not hacking at all, players creating alternate accounts to simply teamkill on their server is rather annoying.  It's only happened twice, but last time was obvious on Soltech when x13eastmodex, a Vanu player, apparently went through the trouble to make another account to make an NC, N00BC0NGL0M8, to kill me.   He even yelled, "Ok, now I can go back to Vanu" in chat after, lol.

     

    He's like battlerank 50 or something on his main account to.   But is there really any point in reporting his other NC account?   Do they even look at IP address or anything?  Because I can report his Vanu character but...if they just look at him for hacking or anything, well....      So yeah, it sort of takes a lot out of the game when someone can just hop accounts and go teamkill you, waste your resources/vehicle/killstreak, but mainly just ...meh.   

  • RoguewizRoguewiz Lampasas, TXPosts: 614Member Uncommon

    Hacking does exist in game.  From being ghosted from something with no name of who killed you, to people blinking around without taking damage.

    However, I'd say the vast majority of deaths are indeed due to something else.  Thinks from a anti-tank mine, that will insta-kill you, to a sniper, to a lucky hit from a tank.  It happens. Hell, I cuss up a storm and have already broken a headset :)

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  • TinybinaTinybina Boondocks, TXPosts: 2,130Member

    Just yesturday I saw 2 guys traveling at warp speed as grunts, one was on my team (Vs) the other NC.. Everyone saw then they would just run past you as fast as a EFC and they were on FOOT!

    Saw a TR max unloading clips of his burster at insane speeds ( I liked this one because I hate the Air domination that is going on)

    Saw reports of 3 different guys shooting through walls...

     

    I can honestly saw this FPS has more hackers then anyone I have EVER PLAYED... I can remember once in a while seeing someone in ut2004, COD, TF or Battlefield Soldiers come in with obvious hacks but that was rare. In Planetside 2 you see them CONSTANTLY EVER SINGLE DAY!

    And to think they havent even opened the server to CHINASIDE where the real hacks to place!

    Oh and another thing as those who have played can confirm, you will fall through the floor (geometry) OFTEN.  Not only that there is a exploit that some people have figured out that will cause alot of others to Crash!?....

     

    WTH SOE, you are a horrible development company...

     

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • ZinzanZinzan NorthPosts: 1,351Member

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zm23oHVLWE

    Linking this once more, it's the best video i have seen of players cheating aside from those from the hackers perspective.

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