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The fact that this forum is "hating this game" is a good sign

GeschaeferGeschaefer Parlin, NJPosts: 117Member

Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

G.E.Schaefer
Played: EQ1. EQ2. FFXI. SWG. Aion. WAR. LOTRO. TabulaRasa. Hellgate London. Diablo 1. Diablo II. Diablo 3. STO. WOW. Vanguard. Guild Wars. Rift. Terra. The Secret World. EVE. Guild Wars 2. Firefall. Neverwinter.

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  • OnomasOnomas Rock Hill, SCPosts: 1,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    Considering it will just be another cookie-cutter mmo with limitations out the rear end........... seems like it will just be another good IP destroyed and will bomb in 3 months. They keep making the same game over and over with new graphics and names for items. In the end, its the exact same game as the last 301 themeparks released this past few years.

  • HeretiqueHeretique Posts: 1,101Member Uncommon
    I wish it the best but don't think it will live up to the name.

    Originally posted by salsa41
    are you have problem ?

  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    If you like themeparks, there is a good chance you will like this game.

    If you are looking for depth, sandbox elements, and some sort of "meaning", I would say you will be disappointed.

    I also do not think that whether this community likes or dislikes a game is a suitable indicator of whether you will like some game or not.

    Just my opinion, not saying this is inevitably correct.

     

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • ArglebargleArglebargle Austin, TXPosts: 1,416Member Uncommon

    If you liked DAoC, you probably want to follow TESO.  

     

    Opinion here is often overexaggerated, for good or ill.

     

    But definitely check the details to see if it meshes with your interests.

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,212Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

     It's a false indicator. Every game is hated here by someone. No exceptions.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • mmoguy43mmoguy43 , CAPosts: 2,439Member Uncommon
    Time will tell... it is just a matter of putting the themepark core in a shiny wrapper, like GW2 did. When that happens most people here will fall for hype and love it. Atleast for a while.
  • EladiEladi ArnhemPosts: 1,100Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

     It's a false indicator. Every game is hated here by someone. No exceptions.

    ^this 

    Currently Darkfall is on the hype wagon, next month it be hated again and is a other game being put forward as the second comming of gaming.

     

     

  • ezpz77ezpz77 Beale, CAPosts: 227Member
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    Considering it will just be another cookie-cutter mmo with limitations out the rear end........... seems like it will just be another good IP destroyed and will bomb in 3 months. They keep making the same game over and over with new graphics and names for items. In the end, its the exact same game as the last 301 themeparks released this past few years.

     

    You guys are so predictable. As soon as a themepark game is mentioned, the cynical hive-mind forms up to post the same boring rhetoric over and over and over. I swear I could make a posting bot that would pretty much cover these type of posts.
  • ToxiaToxia Lake Charles, LAPosts: 1,319Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    Considering it will just be another cookie-cutter mmo with limitations out the rear end........... seems like it will just be another good IP destroyed and will bomb in 3 months. They keep making the same game over and over with new graphics and names for items. In the end, its the exact same game as the last 301 themeparks released this past few years.

     

    You guys are so predictable. As soon as a themepark game is mentioned, the cynical hive-mind forms up to post the same boring rhetoric over and over and over. I swear I could make a posting bot that would pretty much cover these type of posts.

    Way too early to be hyped about this game, especially with what they've shown us. Look for interviews/videos man, see for yourself and decide. Dont let us influence that decision, just inform you on our views of it. thumbs up.

    EDIT: yay im autoquoting. not in response to either of you, sorry.

    The Deep Web is sca-ry.

  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,539Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    The only indicator that should mean anything is - you, are you liking the game, is it fun for you when you play it? That is the only indicator that should matter.

    Pre launch hype should never be a determining factor for anybody.

  • DrakynnDrakynn The Pas, MBPosts: 2,030Member
    Seems like business as usual here.One segment of the community gets it's hate on for the game another get's it's hype on.No indicator one way or another just same old same old.
  • isslingissling San Francisco, CAPosts: 157Member Uncommon

    I agree pre-hype launch anywhere means nothing. All I know is I feel like everything is water downed, there are to many cooks in the kitchen. You try to please everybody and nobody is pleased.

    Look at GW2 such details and great citys, but there are ports in every city and you can just port to another city. Where is the sense of exploring I remember taking a month or two before I even stumbled on another city in early games. This  would suggest they tried to please the old school people and the new generation. So what happens they have to put new patches in on a monthly basis, or everybody is gone.

    Is anybody happy, do you think any of these companys are happy with their numbers(other then Wow)? And half them at this point are gold sellers. 

  • LizardoneLizardone baltimore, MDPosts: 93Member
    gotta wait until next year when the real hype/hate will kick in
  • FearumFearum Cinnaminson, NJPosts: 1,166Member Uncommon
    If you let bitching or hype determine if a game is fun for you, you are just a sheep.
  • minttunatorminttunator ViimsiPosts: 131Member
    It's quite refreshing to see the community being critical pre-launch for once instead of hyping yet another generic themepark as omg teh best game evar. Perhaps the time has finally come when MMO players (or, well, at least the posters on this forum) are beginning to grow tired of the same reskinned game being released every year.

    Besides, hype leads to unreasonable expectations - now there's still a chance that it ends up being good and we'll be positively surprised. :)
  • ArakaneArakane Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 200Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

     

     

     actually,the truth is even funnier than that, it isnt the haters or the lovers,lol,it's how many check it out for themselves,form their own opinions etc., and, if enough like it,the game succeeds,simple as that. Now I am not interested in the elder scrools mmo one way or the other,so I wish them well,just beware of extremes,from wither side, check it out for yourself

  • OnomasOnomas Rock Hill, SCPosts: 1,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    Considering it will just be another cookie-cutter mmo with limitations out the rear end........... seems like it will just be another good IP destroyed and will bomb in 3 months. They keep making the same game over and over with new graphics and names for items. In the end, its the exact same game as the last 301 themeparks released this past few years.

     

    You guys are so predictable. As soon as a themepark game is mentioned, the cynical hive-mind forms up to post the same boring rhetoric over and over and over. I swear I could make a posting bot that would pretty much cover these type of posts.

    Thats because the newer games are so predictable. I mean how many great IP's have been destroyed by crap work and rushed mmo's? SWTOR for example, people like you defended it so badly, but it took a little while for it to sink in.

    Many of us are tired of these piss poor mmorpg's the game companies have been releasing. Single player console style rpg's with so many limits and no features.

    But already from all information combined on the game, it will be another wow clone cookie cutter. Your hyped about future failure? I want more out of my mmorpg's, glad you are happy with limits and linear gameplay. This game sounds no different than the last 200 themeparks released.

     

     

    Hope im wrong, but by the sounds of it.............

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,277Member Uncommon

    +1 OP.

    Back in my console day (15 yrs ago), I would walk into games stop and ask the guy at the counter "Is this game any good?" if he said "No it sucks." I would be more inclined to buy. 

     

    "Horse Breeder" was on of the best console games ever. Breed you horses then race them?! gg. Guy at the counter said it sucked lol.

     

    60% of mmorpg reminds me of the guy behind the counter.

  • deakondeakon birminghamPosts: 583Member
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    Considering it will just be another cookie-cutter mmo with limitations out the rear end........... seems like it will just be another good IP destroyed and will bomb in 3 months. They keep making the same game over and over with new graphics and names for items. In the end, its the exact same game as the last 301 themeparks released this past few years.

     

    You guys are so predictable. As soon as a themepark game is mentioned, the cynical hive-mind forms up to post the same boring rhetoric over and over and over. I swear I could make a posting bot that would pretty much cover these type of posts.

    Thats because the newer games are so predictable. I mean how many great IP's have been destroyed by crap work and rushed mmo's? SWTOR for example, people like you defended it so badly, but it took a little while for it to sink in.

    Many of us are tired of these piss poor mmorpg's the game companies have been releasing. Single player console style rpg's with so many limits and no features.

    But already from all information combined on the game, it will be another wow clone cookie cutter. Your hyped about future failure? I want more out of my mmorpg's, glad you are happy with limits and linear gameplay. This game sounds no different than the last 200 themeparks released.

     

     

    Hope im wrong, but by the sounds of it.............

    You have either A) not read anything about the game or B) are spouting nonesense

    How is it a wow clone when the char progression is completely different, the combat mechanics are completely different, the itemization is completely different, the pvp is completely different etc etc?

    The only similarity is that it shares the same genre

  • ZorgoZorgo Deepintheheartof, TXPosts: 2,226Member
    If that is your litmus test, then you must think every game listed on this site is doing stellar.
  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    Each and every time, "hype" is coming from entirely different people.  But the gamers who catch the tail end of the hype cycle point fingers at the company.

    Over the last year or so, I've come to the conclusion that the "haters" are drawn "mostly" from "fans" who got "duped" by the previous game in the hype-crash cycle.  They've got the most recent bitterness.  New alt, zing, ready for another round.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • lowendahllowendahl bergenPosts: 102Member

    Forum hate now doesn't mean a thing. I'm sure once we get close to launch the devs will say the usual buzzwords... The players will go ''Wow, this game wil be AWSUM!!!'' and then they will congratulate themselves and each other on buying life time subscriptions. Fast forward 6 months and the game will be down to 30% playing...

     

     

  • MyTabbycatMyTabbycat SP, MOPosts: 312Member

    The true test of a game is when it actually launches and people play the game.

    I still say I hope this game remains under the hype radar.

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,996Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by deakon
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    Considering it will just be another cookie-cutter mmo with limitations out the rear end........... seems like it will just be another good IP destroyed and will bomb in 3 months. They keep making the same game over and over with new graphics and names for items. In the end, its the exact same game as the last 301 themeparks released this past few years.

     

    You guys are so predictable. As soon as a themepark game is mentioned, the cynical hive-mind forms up to post the same boring rhetoric over and over and over. I swear I could make a posting bot that would pretty much cover these type of posts.

    Thats because the newer games are so predictable. I mean how many great IP's have been destroyed by crap work and rushed mmo's? SWTOR for example, people like you defended it so badly, but it took a little while for it to sink in.

    Many of us are tired of these piss poor mmorpg's the game companies have been releasing. Single player console style rpg's with so many limits and no features.

    But already from all information combined on the game, it will be another wow clone cookie cutter. Your hyped about future failure? I want more out of my mmorpg's, glad you are happy with limits and linear gameplay. This game sounds no different than the last 200 themeparks released.

     

     

    Hope im wrong, but by the sounds of it.............

    You have either A) not read anything about the game or B) are spouting nonesense

    How is it a wow clone when the char progression is completely different, the combat mechanics are completely different, the itemization is completely different, the pvp is completely different etc etc?

    The only similarity is that it shares the same genre

    Completely different eh? You know this how, from the beta tests, extensive demos at trade shows, etc? Oh, because they said so.  I see. image

    I'll believe it when I see it, still thinking it's going to play far to much like previously titles before it.

    But who knows, maybe I'm wrong, win win for me in that case.  image

     

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • deakondeakon birminghamPosts: 583Member
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by deakon
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by ezpz77
    Originally posted by Onomas
    Originally posted by Geschaefer

    Every game that comes out; has generally an outstanding and super hyped anticipation from the patrons of these forums.

    Each and every time; ive been sucked in by everyone elses flag waving cheerleaders; and every time; these games end up garbage.

    My new indicator of a possibly great upcoming game; is if "you" the collective community hate on it.. ill probably end up liking it. 

    Considering it will just be another cookie-cutter mmo with limitations out the rear end........... seems like it will just be another good IP destroyed and will bomb in 3 months. They keep making the same game over and over with new graphics and names for items. In the end, its the exact same game as the last 301 themeparks released this past few years.

     

    You guys are so predictable. As soon as a themepark game is mentioned, the cynical hive-mind forms up to post the same boring rhetoric over and over and over. I swear I could make a posting bot that would pretty much cover these type of posts.

    Thats because the newer games are so predictable. I mean how many great IP's have been destroyed by crap work and rushed mmo's? SWTOR for example, people like you defended it so badly, but it took a little while for it to sink in.

    Many of us are tired of these piss poor mmorpg's the game companies have been releasing. Single player console style rpg's with so many limits and no features.

    But already from all information combined on the game, it will be another wow clone cookie cutter. Your hyped about future failure? I want more out of my mmorpg's, glad you are happy with limits and linear gameplay. This game sounds no different than the last 200 themeparks released.

     

     

    Hope im wrong, but by the sounds of it.............

    You have either A) not read anything about the game or B) are spouting nonesense

    How is it a wow clone when the char progression is completely different, the combat mechanics are completely different, the itemization is completely different, the pvp is completely different etc etc?

    The only similarity is that it shares the same genre

    Completely different eh? You know this how, from the beta tests, extensive demos at trade shows, etc? Oh, because they said so.  I see. image

    I'll believe it when I see it, still thinking it's going to play far to much like previously titles before it.

    But who knows, maybe I'm wrong, win win for me in that case.  image

     

    Well I'm going by what has been said by sites like this one that have played the game. But the fact that it has been said by those that have played the game that progression is completely different (each skill/waepon/armor type has its own progression path) and its confirmed that there are no restrictions on items

     

    The only thing I'm taking the devs word alone on is that the pvp is open world, 3 faction, siege based with no hard reset.

     

    So at least I do have something to back up what I say unlike those that scream "wow clone"

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