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Originally posted by DavisFlight DAoC or Darkfall, easily. No other MMO engine has been able to handle so many people on screen at once. In Darkfall, no zones, no instances, no loading screens, real time FPS combat. The engine is above and beyond ANYTHING else. Planetside 2 is pretty damn impressive too.
To bad darkfall and Planetside 2 are both shit games. Also dark age of camelot wants to talk to you, i've been in battles with 1000 players on screen and it was fluid. DAoC is a better game than darkfall can ever hope to be. Darkfall has load times trust me, they just use a streaming system to hide the load screens, it probally starts loading once you get near the area's border. Darkfall could be good if it would remove the player char looting on any death part, if they removed that, they would get far more people interested. I just find having to replace stuff every death to be a pain in the ass, and a unneeded part of the game. It just wastes my time having to replace gear all the time, and it would also make me not want to bother with pvp really.
The so called hardcore pvp crowd are mostly greifers that like to camp noobs due to the fact they cannot handle a fair fight. I see it all the time in these types of games. There is very VERY few of them that are really pvper's because ganking someone who has no chance to fight back is not a pvp fight, its just a pve fight bascally.
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Originally posted by Aelious I would choose the smoothest engine that looks good with a lot people are on the screen. I'd also vote for the broadest toolset. For now I'd say it's the Forgelight engine even though they are working the bugs. You can have a lot of people fighting at the same time in a huge persistent world. It also has a built in physics engine and great atmospheric graphics and lighting. For those with good rigs check your config file to turn the graphics up higher than you can in game.
I like your quote Aelious, sadly reduce 3 weeks down to 1 week, because thats how long it takes the average mmo player to hit cap in a mmo. Some people can do it in 3 days.
Definately Darkfall - sweet looking world - awesome atmosphere.
Vanguard would be my next one for the same reasons
CryEngine 3 is really impressive - look at Warface on max settings... It's sick.
At Pax I had a chance to play Defiance (upcoming Trion 3rd person shooter) the engine is silky smooth, was VERY impressed how good it was for alpha, and its their own engine too from what they told me.
To this day I still feel that Blizzard has created an amazing engine w/ what they are able to do in WoW. Yes, it's dated but as far as pure movement/responsiveness it's #1 in my opinion.
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MMO - Planetside 2
MMORPG - TSW's DreamWorld engine.
Originally posted by DavisFlight Originally posted by Loktofeit Originally posted by DavisFlight DAoC or Darkfall, easily. No other MMO engine has been able to handle so many people on screen at once.
I can immediately think of three Lineage 2, Aika, Conquer Online. There's probably others, as well.
Edit: As to the original question, I couldn't begin to guess how many different sets of criteria everyone here is probably using to arrive at their answers. I can't say which might be the best, but I do know one that I'd really like to get my hands on, the Asheron's Call engine.
Heh, no. None of those had 600 people fighting in the same spot at the same time in a zoneless instanceless realm.
Ignorance at its finest. Lineage 2 had no real limitations like that, the world was seamless and allowed for 600 players or such to fight at one spot without instances. The same also goes for EVE Online so maybe next time you should look up facts before making claims.
I used to lead a smaller clan in L2 with and even for raids we had a lot of people showing up to fight the other clans:
On topic though, Unreal Engine is amazing but you need the full license sadly (not the UDK) meaning smaller developers aren't able to push out projects with more than 64 players in the game. Other than that it's simply amazing IMO, always been always will.
Well if were basing on which engine is better by what game runs the smoothest than WoW is the winner. Lets be honest no mmorpg runs better or smoother than that.
I really do like the Cryengine though... I can seem to run most games with that engine pretty well.
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Originally posted by RoxtarrTo this day I still feel that Blizzard has created an amazing engine w/ what they are able to do in WoW. Yes, it's dated but as far as pure movement/responsiveness it's #1 in my opinion.
Have to agree, All round wow has a great mmorpg engine, Is scales well now with players, Zoning technology is excelent, and an array of features that has been added over the past 8 years.
The graphics system is but 1 facet of an Game Engine, and here were talking about mmorpg engines which require a much greater level of complexity with their networking implementation.
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i dont have a favorite engine to say its the best but i do like FFXIV engine. I would love to see an mmo made with Frostbite 2. Who wouldnt want full destruction environment in an mmo? It would be epic to go open world with your guild and siege the enemy city and destroy everything, or defend your city from enemy players destroying your city.
Crafting would play a mayor role for town rebuilding too.
Actually, each one has, and at far better performance than DAoC and Darkfall at 600. Can you link to a single 600 man battle in DAoC. I'd ask you to link to DF, as well, but I've already searched that and everything was speculation - no verifiable record of stable 600+ player battles in that game.
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Originally posted by ShakyMo Planetside 2
I haven't played since beta, but it seemed smooth with a couple hundred people in game last I played. How is playability in the massive battles since release?
Originally posted by Loktofeit Originally posted by ShakyMo Planetside 2
It differs person to person. The engine is horribly optimized at the moment in that people with medium specs can get brilliant framerates yet those on top end have slide shows. Once they get it nailed down it should be fine.
Originally posted by Icewhite Originally posted by Yamota Which one do you feel is the best engine.
I feel that only one mmo player in a thousand is even partially qualified to judge.
Not that that's ever stopped anyone from having an opinion.
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Darkfall's, hands down.
the engine is solid and the net code kicks ass. In the past 3 years, I only crashed once and that was because the internet went down and i lost connection with the server.
The handling of shadows is superb, and I am anxious to see how much of an improvement DFUW will bring, with the addition of 3D sounds, post-process SFX and more....
Originally posted by Kabaal Originally posted by Loktofeit Originally posted by ShakyMo Planetside 2
that's actually good news. i had no idea what the deal was when i tried it the other day.