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[Column] The Secret World: The Revenue Model Shift

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  • eckardteckardt FaroPosts: 47Member
    Is it worth to mantain the monthly subscription? What will be the cost of each dlc? How regular will they be released?
  • GorillaGorilla Posts: 2,202Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by eckardt
    Is it worth to mantain the monthly subscription? What will be the cost of each dlc? How regular will they be released?

    Could always wait another  6 months and get the 'GOTY' version with all the DLC included for 30 bucks.

  • RaysheRayshe London, ONPosts: 1,284Member

    New Content for the Future

    Periodically we will release packs of DLC (Downloadable Content). These updates, called Issues in The Secret World, contain new content, such as more Auxiliary Weapons, new missions and story arcs. These packs are fully optional and can be purchased normally or for the Bonus Points that are included in the optional Membership, as well as with the Grandmaster Lifetime service.

    The first DLC will start selling in January 2013, and is the main storyline of issue #5. This will sell for $5, however this content is already fully unlocked for anyone who has a full game account registered before the end of December 2012.

    Regular patches with free content and updates and enhancements to the core game will still continue.

     

     

    Here this is included right of the main site but isnt listed in this interview. Key words on the last line aswell.

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  • FromHellFromHell NY, NYPosts: 1,311Member
    Originally posted by darkhalf357x

    Wow. Never been first :-)   Definitely was a nice surprise to see this morning. I dont think not saying 'F2P' will stop people from calling it F2P (as thats actually what it is).  This is also confirming my belief that publishers are moving to a F2P construct if you will.

    What I'm curious about is, that this seemed to be planned (perhaps not a date given) - so what was the justification to go subscriber model first?  Recouping cost would be my thought but wonder what other goals were expected? It starts to set a precendent of why subscribe if you know they will go F2P at one point?

    I will say I like the F2P model as it works for and now I will definitely check this title out.  One time fee of 49.99 is peanuts.

    it's B2P like GW2, except there are no gambling boxes in tsw

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  • SeariasSearias Edmonton, ABPosts: 712Member Uncommon
    Why didn't SWTOR follow this route than doing what they did :P.

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  • BereKinBereKin SplitPosts: 287Member
    Finally!!! It is a very good mmo and funcom shoud have done this from the start, but better ever than never. Maybe now this game will get  attention that it deserves
  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Searias
    Why didn't SWTOR follow this route than doing what they did :P.

    IMO, Bioware just fails in general at running an MMO. Not that the game itself is bad, but they're practices - the shoddy F2P system like locking hotbars and such, the limited fireworks for the year anniversary, etc.

  • jbombardjbombard SapporoPosts: 530Member Uncommon
    I read somewhere else that the sub was $15 a month and you get a 10% discount on all store purchases plus $10 worth of points, in addition to some other minor stuff.  It seems to me that the math just doesn't add up.  If you don't get the sub you could get more points just buying them outright.  If you are going to be giving them your money monthly on a consistent basis you would think they would be giving you considerably more points than buying them piecemeal.  
  • victorbjrvictorbjr Quezon CityPosts: 185Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SBE1
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by SBE1

    Notice to Funcom:  You guys totally ripped off people with the launch of AoC saying it would include things that it never did.  You showed countless hours of footage pre-release that never made it into the game.  You continued to tell players about how well the PvP was, when in fact it was broken beyond belief at release.  Seriously, that is why you will never get that many people to ever buy your products because of your history.  

    Also. Funcom is a publicly traded company (pink-sheets I know, just $0.23 a share).  For the author to have advance knowledge that this game was changing it's revenue model several days in advance is a potential violation of the SEC's Fair Disclosure Act (Reg FD).  I will be reporting Funcom to the SEC for ths potential violation since it is a material change in the company's prospects, since TSW is the company's major asset.   I'd like to thank the author for admitting he had advance knowledge of this non-public material information, as I hope this finally puts Funcom out of business.

    We'll all be waiting to see your success with this *smirk*.

    I have reported it to the SEC.  They will take it from here.  I know from my former job that material non-public information, such as how they are going to earn money for thier largest asset, is a violation of Reg FD. 

    Hi! Thanks for the comments.

    Let me ask you a question.

    Did you read the sentence after the first sentence? I said, "I did not get to read any details regarding the revenue shift till perhaps 12 or so hours before this piece went live." 

    There is a distinct difference between fair disclosure and withholding an announcement of a game's revenue model shift because you had only been told they were doing something, without knowing what they were doing exactly.

    I had this very long write-up explaining how embargoes work, but it doesn't really matter.

    The fact that multiple news outlets had interviews and a write-up set right after the announcement means that there's a conspiracy here to keep you in the dark, and we're all part of a global cabal designed to keep you from enjoying the rest of your life.

    But really, what does it matter? We're all going to die in 8 or 9 days, depending on the timezone.

    More to the point, what does anything matter in the grand scheme of things? We are insignificant in comparison to the lifespan of the universe, and when the universe dies, so will time. All of history, including this spat of yours with Funcom, will cease to exist.

    Cheers! :D

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  • victorbjrvictorbjr Quezon CityPosts: 185Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jbombard
    I read somewhere else that the sub was $15 a month and you get a 10% discount on all store purchases plus $10 worth of points, in addition to some other minor stuff.  It seems to me that the math just doesn't add up.  If you don't get the sub you could get more points just buying them outright.  If you are going to be giving them your money monthly on a consistent basis you would think they would be giving you considerably more points than buying them piecemeal.  
     

    You also get some in-game items to sweeten the deal, such as an "item of the month" that can be clothes or some such.

    It depends on what you value really. Exclusive clothing or other stuff. 

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,205Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by victorbjr
    Originally posted by SBE1
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by SBE1

    Notice to Funcom:  You guys totally ripped off people with the launch of AoC saying it would include things that it never did.  You showed countless hours of footage pre-release that never made it into the game.  You continued to tell players about how well the PvP was, when in fact it was broken beyond belief at release.  Seriously, that is why you will never get that many people to ever buy your products because of your history.  

    Also. Funcom is a publicly traded company (pink-sheets I know, just $0.23 a share).  For the author to have advance knowledge that this game was changing it's revenue model several days in advance is a potential violation of the SEC's Fair Disclosure Act (Reg FD).  I will be reporting Funcom to the SEC for ths potential violation since it is a material change in the company's prospects, since TSW is the company's major asset.   I'd like to thank the author for admitting he had advance knowledge of this non-public material information, as I hope this finally puts Funcom out of business.

    We'll all be waiting to see your success with this *smirk*.

    I have reported it to the SEC.  They will take it from here.  I know from my former job that material non-public information, such as how they are going to earn money for thier largest asset, is a violation of Reg FD. 

    Hi! Thanks for the comments.

    Let me ask you a question.

    Did you read the sentence after the first sentence? I said, "I did not get to read any details regarding the revenue shift till perhaps 12 or so hours before this piece went live." 

    There is a distinct difference between fair disclosure and withholding an announcement of a game's revenue model shift because you had only been told they were doing something, without knowing what they were doing exactly.

    I had this very long write-up explaining how embargoes work, but it doesn't really matter.

    The fact that multiple news outlets had interviews and a write-up set right after the announcement means that there's a conspiracy here to keep you in the dark, and we're all part of a global cabal designed to keep you from enjoying the rest of your life.

    But really, what does it matter? We're all going to die in 8 or 9 days, depending on the timezone.

    More to the point, what does anything matter in the grand scheme of things? We are insignificant in comparison to the lifespan of the universe, and when the universe dies, so will time. All of history, including this spat of yours with Funcom, will cease to exist.

    Cheers! :D

    lol, owned.  It is a good article Victor.  I'm pretty excited about this.  I really didn't think they would do it even though I hoped so.  Now I'm just waiting for the download.  Time to hop into another game until it finishes.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,205Member Uncommon
    Also the purchase, right now, includes a faction jacket, a weapon, and a blood raven.  It's cool they add in a few goodies.
  • victorbjrvictorbjr Quezon CityPosts: 185Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Also the purchase, right now, includes a faction jacket, a weapon, and a blood raven.  It's cool they add in a few goodies.

    I've been unable to complete the update due to my day job, but yeah... I'm hoping my account gets some freebies. I wouldn't mind supporting Funcom with enough money to crowdsource an idea for a Power Rangers costume. :D

     

    And thanks for the vote of confidence. :)

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  • CoolitCoolit FalkirkPosts: 468Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Also the purchase, right now, includes a faction jacket, a weapon, and a blood raven.  It's cool they add in a few goodies.

    It's worth pointing out though this is a limited offer and runs until the end of the month. The pet gives you an XP + stats buff that lasts until 3 million XP (ish) then becomes a normal pet.

  • JaedorJaedor Denver, COPosts: 1,140Member Uncommon
    And just FYI that Initiate pack cost $50 at launch, so $30 is a GREAT deal through the end of the month.
  • catofmanycatofmany Milwaukee, WIPosts: 11Member Uncommon

    Definetly buying this.

    It wasn't something i was willing to sub for, but i love this model.

    An up front fee should hopefully keep the spammers down.

     

  • evolver1972evolver1972 Port Orchard, WAPosts: 1,118Member

    FINALLY!  I've been wanting to play TSW but the sub fee was keeping me from it.  (yes I can afford it, but I'm not willing to pay a sub for a game)

    Glad they went to the B2P model....my favorite payment method.

     

    Hey!  Santa! .... heh, screw that, I'm not waiting for Santa, he's too damn slow!

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    You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

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  • kingsatanaskingsatanas quebec, QCPosts: 31Member

    iwonder what happen to people who pay 240$ for the game the colector edition +1 year sub lol.

     

  • ScotScot UKPosts: 5,762Member Uncommon
    B2P is not F2P, I need that as a one button text command for these forums.
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