Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. Lao-Tze
If their aim was remove some percieved barrier to entry (ie the cost to start up in the game) then why keep the box price?
Surely it would make a lot more sense to drop the client cost, give two weeks of free trial unlimited play access, and then ask the player to pay a competitive sub from there on in?
Subs over cash shops any day, especially with the backlash we are starting to see amongst consumers regarding the MT model.
Where does this leave the folks who bought " Life-Time " subscriptions ? Up the creek and no paddle would be my guess.
I'm a lifetimer and seems I'll be getting points and thingies each month. So far I could play but that was it. Moar stuff means moar fun for me personally
Good move. B2P is a much better option than F2P. Too bad SWTOR didn't go that route. But this game still isn't worth the $30 it currently goes for based on what I saw in beta. When it hits the $10 bargain bin, then maybe I'll try.
just remember this is B2P for CURRENT content. future content will require cash shop purchase of DLC or a Sub to play
Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. Lao-Tze
Where does this leave the folks who bought " Life-Time " subscriptions ? Up the creek and no paddle would be my guess.
Actually you aren't they took you into consideration
So basically anyone still subbed gets funcom points every month, and a discount on most everything in the store ...well you do as well, every month you are going to get points to spend in the store, and your discount is 10% more
Those points can be used on the content packs down the road, and in fact the packs will cost less than you are given, so you will have extra to spend on other stuff in the store.
Originally posted by meddyck Good move. B2P is a much better option than F2P. Too bad SWTOR didn't go that route. But this game still isn't worth the $30 it currently goes for based on what I saw in beta. When it hits the $10 bargain bin, then maybe I'll try.
Huh!.you are joking right? not worth it..$30 and you dont think thats cheap enough..well i guess there is no pleasing some people.
I was never a fan of the AoC model so I hope it is not the same. I would rather pay here and there even if it is $10 - $15 a month for the things I specifically want then be hamstrung at the end and forced to sub.
Overall, the changes look really good and will bring in some new folks. As a subscriber, I'm happy there's still an option to continue to support the game regularly, plus get shop points and discounts as well as automatic updates. Lifetimers get the same and a better discount in the shop.
Originally posted by Kenzejust remember this is B2P for CURRENT content. future content will require cash shop purchase of DLC or a Sub to play
Where did you get this information?
Today we got update 5 - first part, next week update 5 part two with more missions and content -- free of charge.
Sure, we might need to pay for big expansion, but that's not really surprising.
What about future content updates?
Periodically we will release packs of DLC (Downloadable Content). The main content in these packs will be a story leading to unique rewards/items through missions. These packs are fully optional and can be purchased for the Bonus Points that are included in the optional Membership, as well as with the points offered with Grand Master Lifetime service. Players without a Membership or a Grand Master Service can of course as well purchase new DLC content in the Item Store.
--------------------- Free content from now on will consist of bug fixes and enhancements to the core game. you can bet you last FC point that the majority of actual playable content will need to be purchased as DLC packs. Watch and see
Nusquam Game Director said I think I need to define DLC a little bit here to try and give people a little more understanding of what it means.
DLC might be a "Mission pack" with 5 new missions. Pricing has not been set on anything but it might be $5, for example. So a Lifetimer gets that plus $5 to spend in the shop on whatever they like (at a 20% discount).
I would encourage people to think of it as more like Borderlands 2 in execution, than Guild Wars 2. We will probably never offer some massive expansion, but we will add regular updates over a year of which some additional pieces might have a cost.
Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. Lao-Tze
Overall, the changes look really good and will bring in some new folks. As a subscriber, I'm happy there's still an option to continue to support the game regularly, plus get shop points and discounts as well as automatic updates. Lifetimers get the same and a better discount in the shop.
Have to say, it's a pretty nice model.
I agres, it's a nice model, especially coming from Funcom who are usually pretty greedy. I bought the game and now i can log in and play and if i want to pay a small sub i can.
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Just don't copy swtor f2p lol
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Where does this leave the folks who bought " Life-Time " subscriptions ? Up the creek and no paddle would be my guess.
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They have come at this from the wrong end IMO.
If their aim was remove some percieved barrier to entry (ie the cost to start up in the game) then why keep the box price?
Surely it would make a lot more sense to drop the client cost, give two weeks of free trial unlimited play access, and then ask the player to pay a competitive sub from there on in?
Subs over cash shops any day, especially with the backlash we are starting to see amongst consumers regarding the MT model.
I'm a lifetimer and seems I'll be getting points and thingies each month. So far I could play but that was it. Moar stuff means moar fun for me personally
This is probably one of the best no sub models I have ever seen
No sub players do not get shafted...pretty much at all
Subbed members get decent benefits (discount in MT store, and $10 worth of points to spend, plus XP gain item with a CD)
Lifetime members get the same benefits as subbed and more
The inital box price will keep the toxic crowd out, gold spammers, troll migrators ect.
I am actually impressed
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I might actually try this game now.
I would've before, but just don't have the free time to justify a subscription MMO these days...
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just remember this is B2P for CURRENT content. future content will require cash shop purchase of DLC or a Sub to play
Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
Lao-Tze
Actually you aren't they took you into consideration
So basically anyone still subbed gets funcom points every month, and a discount on most everything in the store ...well you do as well, every month you are going to get points to spend in the store, and your discount is 10% more
Those points can be used on the content packs down the road, and in fact the packs will cost less than you are given, so you will have extra to spend on other stuff in the store.
Huh!.you are joking right? not worth it..$30 and you dont think thats cheap enough..well i guess there is no pleasing some people.
Starting from now cause i having seen any dates?
Great move. I would personaly remove cooldown on xp booster for subscribers.
I'm not sure but I think issue number 5 goes live next week. Maybe that's the date of new payment model as well.
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Where did you get this information?
Today we got update 5 - first part, next week update 5 part two with more missions and content -- free of charge.
Sure, we might need to pay for big expansion, but that's not really surprising.
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No it hasn't , B2P will do TSW nothing but good.
Here's the FAQ on what it means to new folks, current subs and lifetimers:
http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?p=1474106
Overall, the changes look really good and will bring in some new folks. As a subscriber, I'm happy there's still an option to continue to support the game regularly, plus get shop points and discounts as well as automatic updates. Lifetimers get the same and a better discount in the shop.
Have to say, it's a pretty nice model.
Periodically we will release packs of DLC (Downloadable Content). The main content in these packs will be a story leading to unique rewards/items through missions. These packs are fully optional and can be purchased for the Bonus Points that are included in the optional Membership, as well as with the points offered with Grand Master Lifetime service. Players without a Membership or a Grand Master Service can of course as well purchase new DLC content in the Item Store.
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Free content from now on will consist of bug fixes and enhancements to the core game. you can bet you last FC point that the majority of actual playable content will need to be purchased as DLC packs. Watch and see
Nusquam
Game Director said
I think I need to define DLC a little bit here to try and give people a little more understanding of what it means.
DLC might be a "Mission pack" with 5 new missions. Pricing has not been set on anything but it might be $5, for example.
So a Lifetimer gets that plus $5 to spend in the shop on whatever they like (at a 20% discount).
I would encourage people to think of it as more like Borderlands 2 in execution, than Guild Wars 2. We will probably never offer some massive expansion, but we will add regular updates over a year of which some additional pieces might have a cost.
Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
Lao-Tze
I agres, it's a nice model, especially coming from Funcom who are usually pretty greedy. I bought the game and now i can log in and play and if i want to pay a small sub i can.
Nice one.