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The Secret World Subscription Changes-B2P

KenzeKenze Member Posts: 1,217 Uncommon

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looks like B2P to me
with purchasable DLC

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  • DomotoDomoto Carson City, NVMember Posts: 82
    It's B2P not F2P, as you still need to purchase the game, but will no longer have to pay a monthly fee for it.

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  • KhinRuniteKhinRunite ManilaMember Posts: 879
    If it is...hooray, I guess.
  • korvasskorvass den haagMember Posts: 623
    Nice!
  • SiugSiug Member Posts: 1,212 Uncommon
    As a lifetimer I like this. I'll be getting my thingies monthly and b2p brings more people into the game. 
  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordMember Posts: 7,207 Common
    A gw2 type model would be a good move.

    Just don't copy swtor f2p lol
  • xpiherxpiher Indianapolis, INMember Posts: 3,311
    Took too long IMO

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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Anderson, InMember Posts: 2,758 Uncommon

    Where does this leave the folks who bought " Life-Time " subscriptions ? Up the creek and no paddle would be my guess.

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  • VesaviusVesavius Member Posts: 7,746 Uncommon

    They have come at this from the wrong end IMO.

    If their aim was remove some percieved barrier to entry (ie the cost to start up in the game) then why keep the box price?

    Surely it would make a lot more sense to drop the client cost, give two weeks of free trial unlimited play access, and then ask the player to pay a competitive sub from there on in?

     

    Subs over cash shops any day, especially with the backlash we are starting to see amongst consumers regarding the MT model.

  • SiugSiug Member Posts: 1,212 Uncommon
    Originally posted by Elsabolts
    Where does this leave the folks who bought " Life-Time " subscriptions ? Up the creek and no paddle would be my guess. image

    I'm a lifetimer and seems I'll be getting points and thingies each month. So far I could play but that was it. Moar stuff means moar fun for me personally image

  • DomotoDomoto Carson City, NVMember Posts: 82

    This is probably one of the best no sub models I have ever seen

     

    No sub players do not get shafted...pretty much at all

    Subbed members get decent benefits (discount in MT store, and $10 worth of points to spend, plus XP gain item with a CD)

    Lifetime members get the same benefits as subbed and more

    The inital box price will keep the toxic crowd out, gold spammers, troll migrators ect.

     

    I am actually impressed

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  • meddyckmeddyck USAMember Posts: 1,190 Uncommon
    Good move. B2P is a much better option than F2P. Too bad SWTOR didn't go that route. But this game still isn't worth the $30 it currently goes for based on what I saw in beta.  When it hits the $10 bargain bin, then maybe I'll try.

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  • dimnikardimnikar ZanistanvilleMember Posts: 271

    I might actually try this game now.

     

    I would've before, but just don't have the free time to justify a subscription MMO these days...

  • KenzeKenze Member Posts: 1,217 Uncommon

    just remember this is B2P for CURRENT content. future content will require cash shop purchase of DLC or a Sub to play

    Watch your thoughts; they become words.
    Watch your words; they become actions.
    Watch your actions; they become habits.
    Watch your habits; they become character.
    Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
    —Lao-Tze

  • DomotoDomoto Carson City, NVMember Posts: 82
    Originally posted by Elsabolts
    Where does this leave the folks who bought " Life-Time " subscriptions ? Up the creek and no paddle would be my guess. image

     

     

    Actually you aren't they took you into consideration

     

    So basically anyone still subbed gets funcom points every month, and a discount on most everything in the store ...well you do as well, every month you are going to get points to spend in the store, and your discount is 10% more

     

    Those points can be used on the content packs down the road, and in fact the packs will cost less than you are given, so you will have extra to spend on other stuff in the store.

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  • kevjardskevjards carlisleMember Posts: 1,452 Uncommon
    Originally posted by meddyck
    Good move. B2P is a much better option than F2P. Too bad SWTOR didn't go that route. But this game still isn't worth the $30 it currently goes for based on what I saw in beta.  When it hits the $10 bargain bin, then maybe I'll try.

    Huh!.you are joking right? not worth it..$30 and you dont think thats cheap enough..well i guess there is no pleasing some people.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordMember Posts: 7,207 Common
    See its a decent pve game I might play this for pve and planetside for pvp. Before if you liked both you were kinda stuck with gw2.
  • theoneandonlytheoneandonly londonMember Posts: 102

    Starting from now cause i having seen any dates?

    Great move. I would personaly remove cooldown on xp booster for subscribers.

  • SiugSiug Member Posts: 1,212 Uncommon
    Originally posted by theoneandonly
    Starting from now cause i having seen any dates? Great move. I would personaly remove cooldown on xp booster for subscribers.

    I'm not sure but I think issue number 5 goes live next week. Maybe that's the date of new payment model as well.

  • nakumanakuma New York City, NYMember Posts: 1,310 Uncommon
    I will finally be buying this game then. :)

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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Woodstock, ONMember Posts: 2,393 Uncommon
    I was never a fan of the AoC model so I hope it is not the same.  I would rather pay here and there even if it is $10 - $15 a month for the things I specifically want then be hamstrung at the end and forced to sub.

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  • ThillianThillian BratislavaMember Posts: 3,149 Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kenze
    just remember this is B2P for CURRENT content. future content will require cash shop purchase of DLC or a Sub to play

    Where did you get this information?

    Today we got update 5 - first part, next week update 5 part two with more missions and content -- free of charge.

    Sure, we might need to pay for big expansion, but that's not really surprising.

    REALITY CHECK

  • RimmersmanRimmersman MonacoMember Posts: 885
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Took too long IMO

    No it hasn't , B2P will do TSW nothing but good. 

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  • OrtwigOrtwig Cambridge, MAMember Posts: 1,163 Uncommon

    Here's the FAQ on what it means to new folks, current subs and lifetimers:

    http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?p=1474106

    Overall, the changes look really good and will bring in some new folks.  As a subscriber, I'm happy there's still an option to continue to support the game regularly, plus get shop points and discounts as well as automatic updates.  Lifetimers get the same and a better discount in the shop.

    Have to say, it's a pretty nice model.

  • KenzeKenze Member Posts: 1,217 Uncommon


    Originally posted by Thillian
    Originally posted by Kenze just remember this is B2P for CURRENT content. future content will require cash shop purchase of DLC or a Sub to play
    Where did you get this information?

    Today we got update 5 - first part, next week update 5 part two with more missions and content -- free of charge.

    Sure, we might need to pay for big expansion, but that's not really surprising.



    What about future content updates?

    Periodically we will release packs of DLC (Downloadable Content). The main content in these packs will be a story leading to unique rewards/items through missions. These packs are fully optional and can be purchased for the Bonus Points that are included in the optional Membership, as well as with the points offered with Grand Master Lifetime service. Players without a Membership or a Grand Master Service can of course as well purchase new DLC content in the Item Store.

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    Free content from now on will consist of bug fixes and enhancements to the core game. you can bet you last FC point that the majority of actual playable content will need to be purchased as DLC packs. Watch and see

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    Game Director said
    I think I need to define DLC a little bit here to try and give people a little more understanding of what it means.

    DLC might be a "Mission pack" with 5 new missions. Pricing has not been set on anything but it might be $5, for example.
    So a Lifetimer gets that plus $5 to spend in the shop on whatever they like (at a 20% discount).

    I would encourage people to think of it as more like Borderlands 2 in execution, than Guild Wars 2. We will probably never offer some massive expansion, but we will add regular updates over a year of which some additional pieces might have a cost.

    Watch your thoughts; they become words.
    Watch your words; they become actions.
    Watch your actions; they become habits.
    Watch your habits; they become character.
    Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
    —Lao-Tze

  • RimmersmanRimmersman MonacoMember Posts: 885
    Originally posted by Ortwig
    Here's the FAQ on what it means to new folks, current subs and lifetimers: http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?p=1474106 Overall, the changes look really good and will bring in some new folks.  As a subscriber, I'm happy there's still an option to continue to support the game regularly, plus get shop points and discounts as well as automatic updates.  Lifetimers get the same and a better discount in the shop. Have to say, it's a pretty nice model.

    I agres, it's a nice model, especially coming from Funcom who are usually pretty greedy. I bought the game and now i can log in and play and if i want to pay a small sub i can.

     

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