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I've been on this forum for nearly 9 years....

madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon

And now Diablo 3, Call of Duty, Quake, League of Legends, Team Fortress, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Battlefield, Civilization and any multiplayer game or game with a mutliplayer component is called an MMO just because other people are playing it in their own little instances at the same time. You know, forget that we have descriptors for these games to seperate them into their own genres... forget what the word massive and multiplayer mean when combined... forget it... 

I guess I am going to go just play my fav MMO. Its a board game that I play with only one other person. It's called Chess. 

If you can't understand that MMO means a massive amount of multiplayers online in one game world/instance, and you instead believe that MMO means a massive amount of separate games in duplicate copies of the world...  well.... I don't even know what to say. 

 

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  • engellenengellen liberty, IAPosts: 83Member
    i giggled!

    played a million mmo's

  • CreepProphetCreepProphet LiedekerkePosts: 104Member
    Yeah, that one's escaping me too. But considering how instanced a lot of MMO's have become lately, I can start to see a pattern emerging.
  • stygianapothstygianapoth Oakwood, GAPosts: 183Member
    being on the this forum for 9 years doesn't make your opinion superior.
  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    I hate to tell you this but for nine years they've been covering a lot more than MMOs. They focus on MMOs but the cover other gaming too.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by stygianapoth
    being on the this forum for 9 years doesn't make your opinion superior.

    Seriously? If you think I pointed out how long I have been coming here as some sort of statement of superiority, and not a reflection on how things have changed in that span of time then you have a problem.

  • grimalgrimal Stamford, CTPosts: 2,873Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by stygianapoth
    being on the this forum for 9 years doesn't make your opinion superior.

    But it does make them at least 10 years old.

  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    I hate to tell you this but for nine years they've been covering a lot more than MMOs. They focus on MMOs but the cover other gaming too.

    I am not talking about site coverage. Not at all. I am talking about people thinking Diablo 3 and COD are MMO's.

  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by grimal
    Originally posted by stygianapoth
    being on the this forum for 9 years doesn't make your opinion superior.

    But it does make them at least 10 years old.

    Wow... so few responses so far and already 2 people who don't understand the reason I pointed out the amount of years I've been on. It is no wonder we have so many people who don't know what an MMO is if they can't even comprehend the reason I wrote down how many years I've been coming here.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,643Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    I hate to tell you this but for nine years they've been covering a lot more than MMOs. They focus on MMOs but the cover other gaming too.

    He's reached his limit with this thread. :)

     

     

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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,609Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by madazz

    And now Diablo 3, Call of Duty, Quake, League of Legends, Team Fortress, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Battlefield, Civilization and any multiplayer game or game with a mutliplayer component is called an MMO just because other people are playing it in their own little instances at the same time. You know, forget that we have descriptors for these games to seperate them into their own genres... forget what the word massive and multiplayer mean when combined... forget it... 

    I guess I am going to go just play my fav MMO. Its a board game that I play with only one other person. It's called Chess. 

    If you can't understand that MMO means a massive amount of multiplayers online in one game world/instance, and you instead believe that MMO means a massive amount of separate games in duplicate copies of the world...  well.... I don't even know what to say. 

     

    Exactly. It's the same point I have tried to make through exageration (FB is an MMORPG) and sarcasm many times in other threads.

     

    But MMORPG.COM itself is somewhat guilty of confusing the issue by creating a Diablo 3 forum here. Maybe it's the common auction house that does it for them but it's still a primarily single-player (or at best, small scale co-op) game to me.

  • grimalgrimal Stamford, CTPosts: 2,873Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by madazz
    Originally posted by grimal
    Originally posted by stygianapoth
    being on the this forum for 9 years doesn't make your opinion superior.

    But it does make them at least 10 years old.

    Wow... so few responses so far and already 2 people who don't understand the reason I pointed out the amount of years I've been on. It is no wonder we have so many people who don't know what an MMO is if they can't even comprehend the reason I wrote down how many years I've been coming here.

    Wow....relax.  I was just being a bit silly.

  • XAPKenXAPKen Northwest, INPosts: 4,912Member Uncommon

    I'm seeing the same thing.  An MMO by some definitions today is "any game with publisher run multiplayer servers".  From YoVille to Halo to SWTOR, they're all MMOs.

     

    Good, bad or otherwise, it doesn't matter what I think.  It's not going to change the trend.


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  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    [mod edit]

    I am not writing about that. What I wrote about is VERY simple. This website has multiple forums. Amongst them one for MMO's and another for general gaming. Regardless of what this site covers, the definition of an MMO has not changed. There have been new types of MMO's, some which I don't care for but they are MMO's none the less.

    My point was that people do not understand what an MMO is. The general population of this site used to know that... now you have people who think 4 players = massive.

  • huskie77huskie77 Nowhere, NEPosts: 354Member

    The generally accepted definition of a MMO  is a multiplayer video game which is capable of supporting hundreds or thousands of players simultaneously.

    This sort of standard definition really only works for well adjust, reasonable adults. This probably accounts for the fact that this issue keeps coming up on this forum.

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAPosts: 22,441Member
    Originally posted by madazz

    And now Diablo 3, Call of Duty, Quake, League of Legends, Team Fortress, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Battlefield, Civilization and any multiplayer game or game with a mutliplayer component is called an MMO just because other people are playing it in their own little instances at the same time. You know, forget that we have descriptors for these games to seperate them into their own genres... forget what the word massive and multiplayer mean when combined... forget it... 

    I guess I am going to go just play my fav MMO. Its a board game that I play with only one other person. It's called Chess. 

    If you can't understand that MMO means a massive amount of multiplayers online in one game world/instance, and you instead believe that MMO means a massive amount of separate games in duplicate copies of the world...  well.... I don't even know what to say. 

     

    MMO is just a label. And i have not heard anyone call D3, or LOL a MMO. Most people call D3 an online ARPG, and LOL a MOBA.

    Do we need another debate on naming? And if a game is fun to you, do you really care whether it is called a MMORPG, or a MOBA?

  • CreepProphetCreepProphet LiedekerkePosts: 104Member

    Yeah, you can't add anything to a post. Some folks on here get really distracted by it

    It's like watching ferrets running away with a shiny. 

    *waits for people to run with that comment*

    Granted though, I'm not sure some folks grasp the full acronym. 

    • Massively - Bunches 
    • Multiplayer - of players
    • Online - *all* at one time

    Not, "Eh mate, you want to jump into D3 for a few?" "Yeah man I'm down."

    That's only two. If Bob and Frank join in, that's 4.

    Not massively.

    Multiplayer yes. 

    Massively, no.

     

    *Edited for my own fail*

     

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member

    When you start to pay a fee for using this forum, perhaps then someone will ask for your vote.

    But probably not.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,643Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by CreepProphet

    Granted though, I'm not sure some folks grasp the full acronym. 

    • Massively - Bunches 
    • Multiplayer - of players
    • Online - at one time

    Oh irony. :)

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
    "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre

  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by madazz

     

    Exactly. It's the same point I have tried to make through exageration (FB is an MMORPG) and sarcasm many times in other threads.

     

    But MMORPG.COM itself is somewhat guilty of confusing the issue by creating a Diablo 3 forum here. Maybe it's the common auction house that does it for them but it's still a primarily single-player (or at best, small scale co-op) game to me.

    I agree. I won't get into details about Diablo 3, but this site's more recent tendency to cover non-mmo games does confuse those who don't understand what the genre is.

    This just leads to silly arguments. You have people who want basic multiplayer games arguing how MMO players are wrong and so on and so forth. When really, the people who just want a general multiplayer game are in the wrong forum! I want multiplayer games too, but I come here to discuss MMO's! Now I keep seeing arguments to turn MMO's into general multiplayer games. We already have both! Why are they trying to take away our MMO's?

  • D_TOXD_TOX Brighton.Posts: 269Member Uncommon
    Kids these days will never really know what a real MMO is. World of Warcraft was the last 'real' MMO. And sadly some of us were done with that after the first month. So it leaves much to be desired in this industry. It's all down to indie-developers/sandbox MMO's now. 
  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by CreepProphet

    Granted though, I'm not sure some folks grasp the full acronym. 

    • Massively - Bunches 
    • Multiplayer - of players
    • Online - at one time

    Oh irony. :)

    Multiplayer also means IN ONE INSTANCE. You do not call solitaire a multiplayer game because a bunch of people are playing it solo, but together in one room.

  • CreepProphetCreepProphet LiedekerkePosts: 104Member
    Originally posted by madazz
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by CreepProphet

    Granted though, I'm not sure some folks grasp the full acronym. 

    • Massively - Bunches 
    • Multiplayer - of players
    • Online - all at one time

    Oh irony. :)

    Multiplayer also means IN ONE INSTANCE. You do not call solitaire a multiplayer game because a bunch of people are playing it solo, but together in one room.

    Dude you're right. I totally ruined that one. *facepalms*

    I should have added the "all" in there.

  • CecropiaCecropia Posts: 3,472Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by madazz

    And now Diablo 3, Call of Duty, Quake, League of Legends, Team Fortress, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Battlefield, Civilization and any multiplayer game or game with a mutliplayer component is called an MMO just because other people are playing it in their own little instances at the same time. You know, forget that we have descriptors for these games to seperate them into their own genres... forget what the word massive and multiplayer mean when combined... forget it... 

    I guess I am going to go just play my fav MMO. Its a board game that I play with only one other person. It's called Chess. 

    If you can't understand that MMO means a massive amount of multiplayers online in one game world/instance, and you instead believe that MMO means a massive amount of separate games in duplicate copies of the world...  well.... I don't even know what to say. 

    MMO is just a label. And i have not heard anyone call D3, or LOL a MMO. Most people call D3 an online ARPG, and LOL a MOBA.

    Do we need another debate on naming? And if a game is fun to you, do you really care whether it is called a MMORPG, or a MOBA?

    I care if it is fun and what genre it falls into. When I hear about a new racing game coming out, I have the expectation and hope of being able to drive some sort of vehicle in the game. Know what I mean? I can't stand MOBAs but I love me a good MMORPG, so if I hear that game x is a MOBA then I know not to waste my time.

    I'm not following where the confusion lies here but this is pretty basic stuff.

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  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Cecropia
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by madazz

    And now Diablo 3, Call of Duty, Quake, League of Legends, Team Fortress, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Battlefield, Civilization and any multiplayer game or game with a mutliplayer component is called an MMO just because other people are playing it in their own little instances at the same time. You know, forget that we have descriptors for these games to seperate them into their own genres... forget what the word massive and multiplayer mean when combined... forget it... 

    I guess I am going to go just play my fav MMO. Its a board game that I play with only one other person. It's called Chess. 

    If you can't understand that MMO means a massive amount of multiplayers online in one game world/instance, and you instead believe that MMO means a massive amount of separate games in duplicate copies of the world...  well.... I don't even know what to say. 

    MMO is just a label. And i have not heard anyone call D3, or LOL a MMO. Most people call D3 an online ARPG, and LOL a MOBA.

    Do we need another debate on naming? And if a game is fun to you, do you really care whether it is called a MMORPG, or a MOBA?

    I care if it is fun and what genre it falls into. When I hear about a new racing game coming out, I have the expectation and hope of being able to drive some sort of vehicle in the game. Know what I mean? I can't stand MOBAs but I love me a good MMORPG, so if I hear that game x is a MOBA then I know not to waste my time.

    I'm not following where the confusion lies here but this is pretty basic stuff.

    Exactly, how are we supposed to share an interest on an MMO site when people keep arguing that Diablo 3 is an MMO? Things are put into genres or classified so we can be organized. Sometimes I want to play a co-op game with my buddies. I don't go to an MMO site to look up co-op games... 

  • Tonin109Tonin109 ??, CAPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by D_TOX
    Kids these days will never really know what a real MMO is. World of Warcraft was the last 'real' MMO. And sadly some of us were done with that after the first month. So it leaves much to be desired in this industry. It's all down to indie-developers/sandbox MMO's now. 

    what do you call "real" mmo?

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