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How infested is PS2 with hackers?

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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXPosts: 3,483Member Uncommon

    There is some situational awareness involved in PS2, but at other times, it's questionable whether people are using ESP to see where everyone is on the screen. I know capture points will list how many of a certain faction of players are capping, so if it says 1, then chances are you can take them solo. If you see 3-6 people at a cap point, then most likely, you won't have much of a chance solo. That being said, when you're sitting at a cap point, expect people to know someones in the area and be on the lookout. It's when I'm not in a capping area and someone creeps around a corner shooting at me that I begin to wonder if they are cheating.

    As of right now, I've managed to get to BR17 but I ran into an interesting scenario today involving my Sunderer. Apparently I was being shot constantly by an invisible target right in front of me. I managed to back up to a safe spot to fix my truch. Then another weird thing happened, I manage to repair about 80% damage instantly. So, I'll chalk that one up as a bug, but the bug remained until I logged.

    Anyhow, it's obvious people are cheating, otherwise SOE wouldn't bother with the system wide messages. I'm not saying a lot of people are, but theres enough for it to be annoying.

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  • Crazy_StickCrazy_Stick Privacy Preferred, NCPosts: 1,059Member
    The sad thing is we can't trust game communities not to destroy the games they play. Not that we ever could.
  • tranceauftranceauf Boise, IDPosts: 29Member
    Where are these hacks. I want in on it. Ps2 is a free game it's like the ultimate game to cheat cause you can always make a new account!
  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,436Member Uncommon

    Well hackers or portal campers.I warped into an active zone a few times and everytime i was killed before my player fully spawned into the game.I exit/uninstall without little hesitation.

    It is the little minds that just do not have a clue.If they sit and lame it up,they will have no players to game with but i guess they can't grasp that concept.


    Samoan Diamond

  • DrunkWolfDrunkWolf Posts: 1,178Member Uncommon
    I know about 10 people that hack planetside 2 when they are bored. they are CoD players i use to play with way back and they hack PS2 because its free and they dont care if they get banned. they said they do it to mess around. personally i think its sad to ruin others gameing because your bored but i guess everybody has their own kind of fun.
  • mmoguy43mmoguy43 , CAPosts: 2,439Member Uncommon
    I've seen 4 maybe more. There is atleast 1 blantantly obvious aimbot/speedhack user per day. They even casually admit doing it  because it is fun. I've loved playing PS2 through beta but honestly this is really making it hard to enjoy playing anymore. I'll probably have to take a long break from playing until they take serious action to stop it without disrupting everything else about the game. The occasional GM "Operative" is nice but it is merely containing a constant problem.
  • OpapanaxOpapanax Rochester, NYPosts: 973Member

    Hackers are there, but SOE I guess is ramping up the battle against it. I'm giving them a month or so to see how well they face it. It's not gonna be perfect but as long as its something..

     

    US East MATHERSON GO!!!  

                                        VANU!!!!

    PM before you report at least or you could just block.

  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Calgary, ABPosts: 2,156Member

    I only encountered one hacker all the way since early beta, but this past weekend (double xp weekend) was a car wreck. There were plenty of players I couldn't do any damage to even though I was getting the hit indicator on them and they'd just turn to you and kill you in half a second, and then there were plenty of flickering/warping players- there was a broadcast coming up on the screen every 2 minutes saying operatives were watching so it must've been that bad.


    Hopefully it'll go back to normal again, from what I heard there was a certain hack community that planned a hack raid on PS2 this weekend.

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  • enoliceenolice gardaPosts: 71Member Uncommon
    Please dont call them hackers - they not hackers but cheaters .Nothing to do with hackers.They did not wrote codes and have minimal or zero coding skills.Cheaters using 3rd party software to get advantage over other players just coz they to skills weak to face other in game. Thats it . They cheaters not HACKERS.
  • redwolf22redwolf22 poupoupidouPosts: 1Member

    I used to be a top killer on planetside, a real top killer with a combat engineer/sniper Redgun, but on PS2 I SUCKS........

    -The time i need to aim at a target 0,5sec, and i am already dead even when i see them first.. sigh..

    -The time i need to identify a friend from a foe 0,3 sec, and i am already dead.

    - If i think i am well hidden and in position to.. i am dead.

    - If i think i am not in range yet to use that newbie weapon the other guy is and i am dead.

    - If i am shooting burts with that MG the MG shake so much i could make a milk shake while firing, his weapon is obviously stabilized, and i am dead.

    I don't feel like playing PS2 but more playing turkeyshot online and i am the one playing a turkey, a turkey with a water gun..

     

     

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,272Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Opapanax

    Hackers are there, but SOE I guess is ramping up the battle against it. I'm giving them a month or so to see how well they face it. It's not gonna be perfect but as long as its something..

     

    US East MATHERSON GO!!!  

                                        VANU!!!!

    Yes my brother. Let us continue to teach them the will of Vanu on Matherson.

     

    I wonder if every time the system noticed popped up, they caught someone?

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    How can you get camped?

    When you die you get a choice of several respawn points and can even decide to switch continents and drop pod in.
  • GruugGruug Chillicothe, ILPosts: 1,311Member Uncommon
    "Mass Hacker Hysteria".....that is what always goes on in every FPS I play. The problem is, less then 10% of the players are hacking. Probably less then 5%. There ARE hackers but they are not as numerous as some would think or want to believe. GOOD PLAYERS are oft times accused of being hackers. In fact, many of the hackers that people claim to see are no more then good players. I asked this question in another similar thread, is a player that gets 100 kills and maybe 40 deaths in a 3 hours play session a hacker? Based upon some of the answer I saw before, many think so. Yet, I know a player which can do this and do it regularly WITHOUT hacking.

    Let's party like it is 1863!

  • WraithoneWraithone Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 3,592Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gruug
    "Mass Hacker Hysteria".....that is what always goes on in every FPS I play. The problem is, less then 10% of the players are hacking. Probably less then 5%. There ARE hackers but they are not as numerous as some would think or want to believe. GOOD PLAYERS are oft times accused of being hackers. In fact, many of the hackers that people claim to see are no more then good players. I asked this question in another similar thread, is a player that gets 100 kills and maybe 40 deaths in a 3 hours play session a hacker? Based upon some of the answer I saw before, many think so. Yet, I know a player which can do this and do it regularly WITHOUT hacking.

     

    If thats the case, then SOE has been badly infected with that "hysteria"... Did you notice the number of system broadcasts?... Do you really think they would be doing that without good reason?

  • skydiver12skydiver12 burgundPosts: 432Member

    At this point it's more of a religous thing i guess.

    All these impossible moments are both explainable by pure "crappy" network code OR cheating software.

    People flickering and warping short distances: They lag, this we know through your own friends, however we can't say if people use 3dparty programms to appear lagging which is an advantageous situtaion for them.

    Instat "super speed" when firing or running: Again, we know people (friends next to you) sometimes appear emptying their whole clip in an instance, the game tried to "guess" in combination of their lag they appear to shoot 30 bullets in 0.5 seconds. But on their screen they shoot normal,

    Again we can't tell if people (or we or the whole server) lagged or someone is actually really speedcheating.


    The "not so smart" visible range reduction during heavy fights doesn't help much either, sometimes you see enemies appear 5 meters before you, which is just the shit server limiting your visual range due to load, hell people sometimes even fade in 10 seconds later, i was once Giraffing a whole camp and i bet my ass this was due to me not fading in for them as i should.

    Sometimes i get killed by people standing next to me in my front and appear for the killcam, but i saw no one standing right into my face when i got hit and killed.

    I could go on and on:


    If PS2 would show latency it would help a great deal, as well as overworking their network handling for "lagging" players.

  • stygianapothstygianapoth Oakwood, GAPosts: 183Member
    seems like a lot imo. more often than not i am getting aimbotted from a heavy 300m away. most of the time i can't even see who kills me. if it's an infiltrator that's obvious. but to be gunned down from such a far distance all the time screams aimbot.
  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied -, WAPosts: 2,080Member Uncommon
    Calling them hackers is an insult to real hackers. They are script kiddies, skiddies, or script bunnies.
  • GruugGruug Chillicothe, ILPosts: 1,311Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Wraithone
    Originally posted by Gruug
    "Mass Hacker Hysteria".....that is what always goes on in every FPS I play. The problem is, less then 10% of the players are hacking. Probably less then 5%. There ARE hackers but they are not as numerous as some would think or want to believe. GOOD PLAYERS are oft times accused of being hackers. In fact, many of the hackers that people claim to see are no more then good players. I asked this question in another similar thread, is a player that gets 100 kills and maybe 40 deaths in a 3 hours play session a hacker? Based upon some of the answer I saw before, many think so. Yet, I know a player which can do this and do it regularly WITHOUT hacking.

     

    If thats the case, then SOE has been badly infected with that "hysteria"... Did you notice the number of system broadcasts?... Do you really think they would be doing that without good reason?

     

    I did not say that SOE was wrong in dealing with what hackers there are. What I am saying is that there are not as many as most people wish to believe. I applaud SOE taking such a hardline stance. Hopefully in the end it has a major impact. What I also hope, it that people realise that not every person they come across is a hacker.

    Let's party like it is 1863!

  • TalonsinTalonsin Posts: 1,468Member Uncommon

    I dont think the messages mean a dang thing.  I played on and off all three days and each day on waterson the same guys name appeared in those messages over and over again.  How can this guy keep playing for all three days when he was reported every hour for three days in a row?

     

    Now, to be honest, I have only encountered a would-be hacker once during the weekend event.  I dont personally feel that my server "waterson" is infested with hackers.

  • GruugGruug Chillicothe, ILPosts: 1,311Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by stygianapoth
    seems like a lot imo. more often than not i am getting aimbotted from a heavy 300m away. most of the time i can't even see who kills me. if it's an infiltrator that's obvious. but to be gunned down from such a far distance all the time screams aimbot.

     

    One thing I have noticed it that you can be "killed" by multiple people firing at you. The game will only report the last two hits on the kill screen. So, you may be getting hit from more the two people and the last hit COULD BE just one bullet. As to a heavy killing from 300m, it is not impossible. I run with a 4x scope and a EM6 (NC). I look for people at range that are either a low health or are being shot by others and single shot them. Sometimes I get lucky and kill them. Thing is, the person at that range has no idea if some like me is shotting them many times as they can not see me as easily if they don't have a higher power scope. Now, one vs one at  that range just single shooting with full heatlh I rarely get the kill if the person ducks into cover or gets a heal.

    This is a perfect example of how people can misunderstand and just claim "hacking". I know I don't hack. Don't know if I have ever been called a hacker. But if SOE looks at me because someone accuses me, they will see that I do not hack. Frankly, I hope SOE catches all the current and future hackers quickly. The thing is, I know that most of the people they will look at are not hacking. Funnier thing is, I bet even some of those making those reports to SOE may find that even THEY have been reported. Nothing wrong with it if you are honest and not hacking.

    Let's party like it is 1863!

  • n00bitn00bit rochester hills, MIPosts: 343Member

    Put many hours into the game and I've only seen 3 guaranteed aimbotters, and a few questionable lag-switchers. Sure, it can be frustrating, but compared to a game like APB, I can live w/ the current cheating popuplation.

  • sacredcow4sacredcow4 Amherst, OHPosts: 193Member

    I'm a very skilled player when it comes to shooting games. I played cal-i CS 1.6 and generally maintain a very high KDR. I know there are people better than me. I've played with them and against them. That being said...

    I requested a full refund for any SC spent on this game due it being significantly not as described. The amount of hackers I encountered during double xp weekend was enough to convince me to uninstall the game. When you see one kid in a max suit doing 360's killing your entire outfit as he solo defends a biolab... your first thought is far from, "Wow, what a skilled player." I expected some of this to happen, but when your outfit begins planning your base battles around luring the other teams hacker to C4 or grenade spamming him hoping to kill him long enough to cap a point before he spawns... you know the game has a serious issue. I would recommend not going anywhere near the game until this fix the issue. I had a lot of fun, and would have continued having a lot of fun if the hacker problem wasn't so obvious. As it stands now, expect headaches and dissapointment as your carefully planned strategies are halted by one kid with a program.

    TLDR: The problem, at least for me personally, is game breaking right now. I quit and have no plans to return until it is fixed. I sincerely hope they are able to fix it soon, as I know I'm not the only player who hit threshold and quit.

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  • thetimesthetimes Roseville, MIPosts: 49Member
    Originally posted by Talonsin

    I dont think the messages mean a dang thing.  I played on and off all three days and each day on waterson the same guys name appeared in those messages over and over again.  How can this guy keep playing for all three days when he was reported every hour for three days in a row? Now, to be honest, I have only encountered a would-be hacker once during the weekend event.  I dont personally feel that my server "waterson" is infested with hackers.

     

    The names you keep seeing over and over, "oprative ____" are gms

    "Drons are watching oprative blah blah matherson"
  • SoulStainSoulStain Tampa, FLPosts: 202Member
    The only obvious ones i encounter are when I have nothing but a wall to one direction...then proceed to get one-shot from that direction. Sometimes I even have 2 walls to the right (for example)..one inner wall and the outer wall..enclosed inside a building with no enemy breach and still get one-shot from the right. Keep in mind my right arm is right near the wall. Its not armor fire or heavy assault rpg like fire..I know if your close to the wall you can still take some damage if it strikes the outside. I'm talking regular assault rifle or sniper fire. Those are the ones that piss me off...you run for cover and get shot through the cover.
  • thetimesthetimes Roseville, MIPosts: 49Member
    Originally posted by SoulStain

    The only obvious ones i encounter are when I have nothing but a wall to one direction...then proceed to get one-shot from that direction. Sometimes I even have 2 walls to the right (for example)..one inner wall and the outer wall..enclosed inside a building with no enemy breach and still get one-shot from the right. Keep in mind my right arm is right near the wall. Its not armor fire or heavy assault rpg like fire..I know if your close to the wall you can still take some damage if it strikes the outside. I'm talking regular assault rifle or sniper fire. Those are the ones that piss me off...you run for cover and get shot through the cover.

     

    When I play inf. I got out of my way to get behind enemy lines. Many times I've shot someone, and watched them actualy move towards me thinking the are seeking cover.

    There are no safe places in ps2 everything you see from cliffs to tree tops may have sniper or 2.
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