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PC gaming is crap these days (2012)

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    You don't need to be permenantly online with steam, you can run it in offline mode.

    You just need to occasionally connect over the internet to verify your products.

    If you are having to permenantly connect its some other drm in your game, and not steam.

    When I go on holiday I get some of my lighter games on my laptop instead of pc, connect to steam before I fly off, then I'm good to go for a fortnight without needing to connect to the net at all.

    As drm goes steam Is pretty good, its not like uplay, origin, gfwl etc..
  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DancingQueen

    I couldn't get steam to connect, it said that I had no internet connection even when I had my web browser open so I uninstalled steam to reinstall it and whoops some 9GB got uninstalled as well... that must have been my games.

    And I really don't understand why I have to install the games on my HDD when it could play from the steam servers and only install a tiny amount of data on my HDD.

    TLDR: Steam is a shitty service that should be much better and PC gaming sucks because steam sucks.

    Dont think ive ever had steam remvoe all the downloaded games when i uninstalled it before, but its been some time since i have done that.

     

    Steam is not a streaming service, you still need to downlaod the games onto your hard drive, this also allows you to set the games to offline mode so you can play when there is no connection.

     

    Steam is not a shitty service, as I said before its the best thing to happen to PC gamnig for a very very long time and one of the best services I use as well as millions of others.

     

    I would think there is somthing wrong with your PC and not steam unless of course there is some kind of general outage.

    Do you have some kind of Firewall in place blocking steam? or maybe your behind a proxy server? Anyway yuor best bet is to get on the steam forums for help..

  • GruugGruug Chillicothe, ILPosts: 1,311Member Uncommon
    I see two sides of the coin for Steam. Yes, they are a great way to DELIVER games to those that know about the games to start with. That is the first side and the good side. The other side of the coin is that Steam does not foster a great way to get NEW gamers interest in games for PC. Let's face it, if you are a gamer and know about games on PC then you will in most likelyhood have heard of if not used Steam. The average joe on the street may never have a clue. However, if you have a "brick and mortar" shop somewhere then people walk by the shelves and are exposed to gaming. So, Steam to me is both good and bad for PC gaming.

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    The following mmos are on steam
    Planetside 2
    Tsw
    Aoc
    Lotro
    Rift
    Perfect world (and all its follow ups)
    Eve
    Perpetuum
    Aion
    Tera
    Dcuo
    Champions

    Basicly anything that isn't ea, blizzard or ncsoft.
  • DancingQueenDancingQueen LA, CAPosts: 201Member

    I disabled my firewall and now steam connects but I can't have my firewall disabled forever?

    I'm pretty sure that it said that I couldn't play Borderlands 2 in off-line mode since I got that game through a code in my graphics card box.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member

    You need to put an exception in the firewall for steam - specific sockets. It is not that hard.

     

    Do not leave your firewall down.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by botrytis
    You need to put an exception in the firewall for steam - specific sockets. It is not that hard. Do not leave your firewall down.

    For the Windows Firewall

    Click Start Control Panel > Security > Windows Firewall > Change Settings, and click Continue if prompted by UAC.2. Click on the Advanced tab.3. Check the applications that you wish to unblock.
    Uncheck the applications that you wish to block.


    Steam.Exe should be in the list of applications, so you should be able to unblock it to allow it access through the firewall. I've never had to unblock any of the games I've installed through Steam.

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Just add steam to your firewall as an app to allow through. You often have to do thus with things like mmos too.
  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Dunno borderlands 2 is 2k games like civ5, and you can play that in offline mode (
  • MurdusMurdus bayville, NYPosts: 698Member
    Originally posted by DancingQueen

    Thanks to steam on every darn game I'm now considering giving up gaming as a time wasting hobby and start reading books or something.

    Steam says no internet connection? But I am connected to the internet. Steam fails to or takes ages to update. Steam is just the biggest pile of doggy-do-do thats now have become an integrated part of PC gaming.

    And the AAA titles costs more on steam.

    Oh no...

  • DancingQueenDancingQueen LA, CAPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by botrytis

    You need to put an exception in the firewall for steam - specific sockets. It is not that hard.

     

    Do not leave your firewall down.

    Yeah but it's not really made to be used by simple people like me but I think that I fixed it somehow.

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DancingQueen

    I disabled my firewall and now steam connects but I can't have my firewall disabled forever?

    I'm pretty sure that it said that I couldn't play Borderlands 2 in off-line mode since I got that game through a code in my graphics card box.

    ah you see no need to rage at steam when its your firewall blocknig it LOL...

    Dont know about Borderlands 2 but you should be able to set it to offline mode unles the game has an always online requirement.

     

    Anyway add steam to your exceptions in your firewall and you will be good to go.

  • GruugGruug Chillicothe, ILPosts: 1,311Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DancingQueen

    I disabled my firewall and now steam connects but I can't have my firewall disabled forever?

    I'm pretty sure that it said that I couldn't play Borderlands 2 in off-line mode since I got that game through a code in my graphics card box.

     

    If your firewall is blocking steam then you just need to create an exception in your firewall. If it is to connect to play a game, that is not Steam's fault. It is the game company that made the game. Steam only delivers the game. The servers are provided by the game's maker. In that case, you need and exception for the game itself.

     

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  • FlarglegumpFlarglegump JuffairPosts: 8Member
    It's called DRM, deal with it. Don't fret though, you can sell your PC now and get a steam box when it comes out. :'))
  • ZorgoZorgo Deepintheheartof, TXPosts: 2,226Member
    What's wrong with playing a classic then? Save for a handful most of the 'great' games of the past are still up and running.
  • DancingQueenDancingQueen LA, CAPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by lizardbones

     


    Originally posted by botrytis
    You need to put an exception in the firewall for steam - specific sockets. It is not that hard.

     

     

    Do not leave your firewall down.



    For the Windows Firewall

    Click Start Control Panel > Security > Windows Firewall > Change Settings, and click Continue if prompted by UAC.

     

    2. Click on the Advanced tab.

    3. Check the applications that you wish to unblock.
    Uncheck the applications that you wish to block.


    Steam.Exe should be in the list of applications, so you should be able to unblock it to allow it access through the firewall. I've never had to unblock any of the games I've installed through Steam.

    I don't use the windows firefall since the one in my anti-virus is better (I think).

    And why do I always have to validate that I'm human? I feel a bit infuriated now by the machines and whatnot.

     

  • XsonicXsonic Houston, TXPosts: 93Member
    Just ask a PC guy for a fix, not too hard to find one anyway.
  • NiburuNiburu BerlinPosts: 378Member Uncommon
    Darkfall Unholy Wars and path of Exile soon
  • SiveriaSiveria Saint John, New BrunswickPosts: 1,200Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DancingQueen

    Thanks to steam on every darn game I'm now considering giving up gaming as a time wasting hobby and start reading books or something.

    Steam says no internet connection? But I am connected to the internet. Steam fails to or takes ages to update. Steam is just the biggest pile of doggy-do-do thats now have become an integrated part of PC gaming.

    And the AAA titles costs more on steam.

    1: Try getting a better internet connection, it is not always steams fault.

    2: See #1 about net connection

    3: They cost the same as they would in a retail sroew (which IMO they shouldn't be allowed to do, should be 5-10 cheaper imo)

    Reason I think pc gaming is going to shit? easy: most games these days are make for the x360 with its vastly outdated hardware and such, and the pc users usually get some half-ass console port that is not optimized code, or gameplay wise for the pc, Ya know console UI that just is akward as hell on the pc, bad performance, alot lower end graphically than pc's can show.

    Its very rare now a days for any game to be made for pc first then come out on console downgraded, this is how it used to be back before x360 came out. You can usually tell if its a direct console port by looking at the low quality textures they usually use. Fallout series and elder scrolls are a prime example, need a few mods for the pc version to make it look like a pc game and have the ui of one. Then again I feel anyone is really a moron for buying a game like fallout 3 or many other modable titles on a console if they have access to a pc.

    Back on the subject of steam, I used to hate steam, then I found out I can use the overlay in virtually any game that runs in open gl or direct x, now I love it and use it as my main Instant messaging program since I will be able to respond to messages without having to leave the game or alt+tabing. That and I love steams sales, got borderlands last year for 7.99 and it came with all dlcs that were out, was one nice deal, you won't find a deal like that in a retail store.

    I actually have some prepaid visa cards lined up for when their big x-mas sale starts, last year I won a few games for doing achievements in certan games I was planning to buy anyway.

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    A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

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  • DonY81DonY81 RochesterPosts: 350Member
    Originally posted by DancingQueen

    Thanks to steam on every darn game I'm now considering giving up gaming as a time wasting hobby and start reading books or something.

    Steam says no internet connection? But I am connected to the internet. Steam fails to or takes ages to update. Steam is just the biggest pile of doggy-do-do thats now have become an integrated part of PC gaming.

    And the AAA titles costs more on steam.

    Well i totally agree but i think im more fed up with pc gaming in general.

     

    Not sure on the steam thing but ive actually dabbled today / yesterday on getting a ps VITA.

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  • ThorbrandThorbrand West Palm Beach, FLPosts: 1,198Member

    Everything has been dumbed down for the new generation of Americans.

    Look at it. Movies are crap, TV shows are crap, Games are crap. All easy mode waste of money BS that shouldn't even be allowed to be callled a game, look of the definition of a game. It is the way of the corporations and the slaves keep following it.

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon

    well since Kickstarter has come along i think we are going to see some very nice PC only games popping up :)

     

     

  • DancingQueenDancingQueen LA, CAPosts: 201Member
    Originally posted by Xsonic
    Just ask a PC guy for a fix, not too hard to find one anyway.

    It's fixed but why can't steam say that someting is blocking it's connection?

    It's 2012 but programs doesn't show much intelligence or self awareness and you almost have to be a computer nerd to sort some PC related troubles out.

    I will stop now for everytime I make a post I have to prove that I'm a human with using that stupid crap-cha or whatever it's called so no more posts from me on mmorpg.com.

  • NitthNitth AustraliaPosts: 3,684Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by erictlewis
    Why are we even discussing steam on this site almost all thier games are fps, or co-op, or rpg. I think there is only 2 mmo's on steam. I hate steam due to the fact you got to be connected to the internet to run the games even why you have the phsical hard copy.  

    There are lots of mmorpgs on steam under the mmorpg section...

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  • allendale5allendale5 kansas city, MOPosts: 124Member
    I feel your pain as far as there being so many crappy games, but I don't think Steam should be blamed -- they just provide the warehousing of the games-- they don't make them.  Yes they contract for exclusivity on many games but to me it does not really affect my impression of the game.  As matter of fact, when I had to get a new pc I was glad for steam -- I picked up Skyrim right where I left off.  They have some pretty good sales from time to time as well.  I wasn't a big fan of being forced to be online to play offline games that I had purchased at first, but it's just the state of games as a whole now I guess.
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