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And I'm back again. I think this game has the most to offer for no monthly fee.

ExavusExavus Kenai, AKPosts: 200Member

I had been subscribed to wow recently and I put probably 20-30 hours into the new expansion and while it's somewhat impressive I still don't think it can hold a candle to the value I'm getting out of GW2. I wanted to go back to EVE Online and now I can just because I won't let myself do two paid subscriptions a month. I can get both Fantasy and Sci fi with one monthly fee. 

 

Ahhh this is nice ^_^

Current MMO: WoW/GW2

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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan EastPosts: 2,630Member
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

    If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my block list - so don't waste your time.

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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

     

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,565Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.
     

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?



    Haha! +1
  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Long Island, NYPosts: 480Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Exavus

    I had been subscribed to wow recently and I put probably 20-30 hours into the new expansion and while it's somewhat impressive I still don't think it can hold a candle to the value I'm getting out of GW2. I wanted to go back to EVE Online and now I can just because I won't let myself do two paid subscriptions a month. I can get both Fantasy and Sci fi with one monthly fee. 

     

    Ahhh this is nice ^_^

    If you left once already you will leave again...and again....and again.

  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,928Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

     

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    And you needed keyboard and mouse instead of joypad...

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • korent1991korent1991 CakovecPosts: 1,390Member
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

     

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    And you needed keyboard and mouse instead of joypad...

    Nope, still use them :D

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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan EastPosts: 2,630Member
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

     

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    Actually, I'm one of the favored people who played Asheron's Call 1, so I also remember the opposite :) Yeah, even old school MMORPGs had dodging and the ability to care for yourself.

    That's possibly why I enjoy GW2 that much.

    PS: I welcome anyone playing with a joypad to duel me in any World vs World area of his choice, 1 vs 1. I will show him why mouse view is still superior to any stupid joystick-like controler, something which has been true since the early days of Doom 20+ years ago.

    If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my block list - so don't waste your time.

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  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    PS: I welcome anyone playing with a joypad to duel me in any World vs World area of his choice, 1 vs 1. I will show him why mouse view is still superior to any stupid joystick-like controler, something which has been true since the early days of Doom 20+ years ago.

    Well, pretty sure that's a safe challenge.

    Haven't even seen my joystick in more than a decade.

    Oh, you were flex-and-posing at the console guys.  Nevah mind.

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  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Icewhite

    ...snip

    Haven't even seen my joystick in more than a decade.

    ...snip

    Tell me I'm not the only one that snickered at that.

    Strangely it brought up a memory of this song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJSoYv-V1e4

    Now, I'm confused but I'm sure I could make an internet montage if I had Maya.

     

  • TillerTiller Portland, ORPosts: 4,921Member
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

     

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    Or you had to buy something that healed you, and you couldn't run away from a fight before you died.  Between attacks you had to wait for your health bar to fill when you had no potions or stim packs or use /sit...and jumping was an emote, not a skill.

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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Tiller
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

     

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    Or you had to buy something that healed you, and you couldn't run away from a fight before you died.  Between attacks you had to wait for your health bar to fill when you had no potions or stim packs or use /sit...and jumping was an emote, not a skill.

    Sit-jumping... I miss that from the Betas.

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • HorrorScopeHorrorScope Norcal, CAPosts: 612Member
    Who are you?
  • aRtFuLThinGaRtFuLThinG MelbournePosts: 1,134Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Exavus

    I think this game has the most to offer for no monthly fee.

    Before Planetside 2 came out, I would agree with you.

     

    Now, not so sure.

     

    Also, Firefall is coming out too, which is also free.

  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG
    Originally posted by Exavus

    I think this game has the most to offer for no monthly fee.

    Before Planetside 2 came out, I would agree with you.

     

    Now, not so sure.

     

    Also, Firefall is coming out too, which is also free.

    Does Planetside 2 or firefall have PvE content?

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Raleigh, NCPosts: 2,773Member
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG
    Originally posted by Exavus

    I think this game has the most to offer for no monthly fee.

    Before Planetside 2 came out, I would agree with you.

     

    Now, not so sure.

     

    Also, Firefall is coming out too, which is also free.

    Does Planetside 2 or firefall have PvE content?

    Firefall does have pve not as exciting as it is with GW2 but a good side game though. 

     

    For got to add for [me].

     

    I think though with a lot of people playing it can be fun as well.

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  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RizelStar
    Originally posted by eyelolled
    Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG
    Originally posted by Exavus

    I think this game has the most to offer for no monthly fee.

    Before Planetside 2 came out, I would agree with you.

     

    Now, not so sure.

     

    Also, Firefall is coming out too, which is also free.

    Does Planetside 2 or firefall have PvE content?

    Firefall does have pve not as exciting as it is with GW2 but a good side game though. 

     

    For got to add for [me].

     

    I think though with a lot of people playing it can be fun as well.

    Interesting. I thought both of them were just MMOFPS with no real PvE content. Though that can be fun, I would still consider it more shallow than a rpg.

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,223Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    I remember before that, in Lineage, when I could do those things.  Not all games had guaranteed hits with gimped combat mechanics.  Self sufficiency isn't a new concept.

  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    I also tried to play Pandaria - and I had a blast with my Druid and later my DK for almost 8 years in WoW, but I just can't anymore... I don't think I'll ever be able to play a game with quest hubs and classic MMO combat.

    Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?

    I remember before that, in Lineage, when I could do those things.  Not all games had guaranteed hits with gimped combat mechanics.  Self sufficiency isn't a new concept.

     

    So I'm seeing... those games actually predate my MMO experiences. So... what happened? When did self-responsibility and self-sufficiency go away?

     

    And aren't you glad it's back?

    Oderint, dum metuant.
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  • moguy2moguy2 Saint Peters, MOPosts: 337Member
    Originally posted by TalulaRose
    Originally posted by Exavus

    I had been subscribed to wow recently and I put probably 20-30 hours into the new expansion and while it's somewhat impressive I still don't think it can hold a candle to the value I'm getting out of GW2. I wanted to go back to EVE Online and now I can just because I won't let myself do two paid subscriptions a month. I can get both Fantasy and Sci fi with one monthly fee. 

     

    Ahhh this is nice ^_^

    If you left once already you will leave again...and again....and again.

    This is so true.

  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan EastPosts: 2,630Member
    Originally posted by Icewhite
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    PS: I welcome anyone playing with a joypad to duel me in any World vs World area of his choice, 1 vs 1. I will show him why mouse view is still superior to any stupid joystick-like controler, something which has been true since the early days of Doom 20+ years ago.

    Well, pretty sure that's a safe challenge.

    Haven't even seen my joystick in more than a decade.

    Oh, you were flex-and-posing at the console guys.  Nevah mind.

    Oh no, not "flex and posing"... just stating the obvious.

    If what I say wasn't true, and joysticks were superior for MMORPGs, then all those guys doing competitions (aka "eSport") in games like WoW would be using joysticks and not mouse+keyboard combos. The "top" sPvP guilds in GW2 would be using joysticks too. They don't, for a very good reason - a mouse + keyboard combo beats any type of joystick/joypad/console controller any time of the day in a MMORPG.

    Oh and before someone post that... I know there are videos around of people doing PvP with a controler. Those prove nothing except that controlers actually... suck compared to a mouse :)

    If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my block list - so don't waste your time.

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  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,565Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    Originally posted by Icewhite Originally posted by The_Korrigan PS: I welcome anyone playing with a joypad to duel me in any World vs World area of his choice, 1 vs 1. I will show him why mouse view is still superior to any stupid joystick-like controler, something which has been true since the early days of Doom 20+ years ago.
    Well, pretty sure that's a safe challenge. Haven't even seen my joystick in more than a decade. Oh, you were flex-and-posing at the console guys.  Nevah mind.
    Oh no, not "flex and posing"... just stating the obvious.

    If what I say wasn't true, and joysticks were superior for MMORPGs, then all those guys doing competitions (aka "eSport") in games like WoW would be using joysticks and not mouse+keyboard combos. The "top" sPvP guilds in GW2 would be using joysticks too. They don't, for a very good reason - a mouse + keyboard combo beats any type of joystick/joypad/console controller any time of the day in a MMORPG.

    Oh and before someone post that... I know there are videos around of people doing PvP with a controler. Those prove nothing except that controlers actually... suck compared to a mouse :)



    Its because mmo combat isnt good enough yet to warrant a gamepad.
  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan EastPosts: 2,630Member
    Originally posted by Foomerang
    Its because mmo combat isnt good enough yet to warrant a gamepad.

    That's the reason why mouse+keyboard are also the best for FPS games then? The only reason controlers work on consoles is because there's no choice. Playing a FPS with a mouse gives WAY superior control and precision - and that's why despite having the choice, all FPS top gamers on PC play with a mouse.

    Fact is, games which allow multiplayer between computer and console always either see a complete dominance by the computer players over the console players, or give the console players some degree of auto-aim to make up for it. This isn't really a controversial question. It's a fact. Mouse > Controller. And that's the reason why Microsoft gave up allowing PC players and console players to play those games together, even though the initially intended to support it on the 360.

    If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my block list - so don't waste your time.

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  • ThorbrandThorbrand West Palm Beach, FLPosts: 1,198Member
    Step uip and stop playing any MMOs until they start to release a real MMO.
  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,565Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    Originally posted by Foomerang Its because mmo combat isnt good enough yet to warrant a gamepad.
    That's the reason why mouse+keyboard are also the best for FPS games then? The only reason controlers work on consoles is because there's no choice. Playing a FPS with a mouse gives WAY superior control and precision - and that's why despite having the choice, all FPS top gamers on PC play with a mouse.

    Fact is, games which allow multiplayer between computer and console always either see a complete dominance by the computer players over the console players, or give the console players some degree of auto-aim to make up for it. This isn't really a controversial question. It's a fact. Mouse > Controller. And that's the reason why Microsoft gave up allowing PC players and console players to play those games together, even though the initially intended to support it on the 360.


    Really? Cause last time i checked, the number of world ranked fighting game tournaments outnumbers mmo pvp tournaments nearly 20 to 1. Trying to bandwagon current mmo combat into fps is straw man at its finest. Oh mmo combat and fps both use kb and mouse? That proves mmos are at the same level? Haha. No.

    When an mmo has the same depth of abilities and reaction time as virtua fighter 5, then i will agree with you. But mmo combat in its current form is not even close. I mean you guys are still giddy from having a dodge button lol. You have a long way to go.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by Thorbrand
    Step uip and stop playing any MMOs until they start to release a real MMO.

    Really? Why not just stop postong on MMORPG.COM while not playing MMO's also? I for wone ge sick of people that have to post negative non-sense drivvle in a basically positive thread.

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