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I had been subscribed to wow recently and I put probably 20-30 hours into the new expansion and while it's somewhat impressive I still don't think it can hold a candle to the value I'm getting out of GW2. I wanted to go back to EVE Online and now I can just because I won't let myself do two paid subscriptions a month. I can get both Fantasy and Sci fi with one monthly fee.
Ahhh this is nice ^_^
Current MMO: WoW/GW2
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Respect, walk
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- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?
Oderint, dum metuant.
Remember in the old days in MMOs when you couldn't even dodge and someone else had to heal you?
Haha! +1
If you left once already you will leave again...and again....and again.
Nope, still use them
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Actually, I'm one of the favored people who played Asheron's Call 1, so I also remember the opposite Yeah, even old school MMORPGs had dodging and the ability to care for yourself.
That's possibly why I enjoy GW2 that much.
PS: I welcome anyone playing with a joypad to duel me in any World vs World area of his choice, 1 vs 1. I will show him why mouse view is still superior to any stupid joystick-like controler, something which has been true since the early days of Doom 20+ years ago.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Well, pretty sure that's a safe challenge.
Haven't even seen my joystick in more than a decade.
Oh, you were flex-and-posing at the console guys. Nevah mind.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Or you had to buy something that healed you, and you couldn't run away from a fight before you died. Between attacks you had to wait for your health bar to fill when you had no potions or stim packs or use /sit...and jumping was an emote, not a skill.
Sit-jumping... I miss that from the Betas.
Oderint, dum metuant.
Before Planetside 2 came out, I would agree with you.
Now, not so sure.
Also, Firefall is coming out too, which is also free.
Does Planetside 2 or firefall have PvE content?
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Firefall does have pve not as exciting as it is with GW2 but a good side game though.
For got to add for [me].
I think though with a lot of people playing it can be fun as well.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Interesting. I thought both of them were just MMOFPS with no real PvE content. Though that can be fun, I would still consider it more shallow than a rpg.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
So I'm seeing... those games actually predate my MMO experiences. So... what happened? When did self-responsibility and self-sufficiency go away?
And aren't you glad it's back?
Oderint, dum metuant.
This is so true.
Oh no, not "flex and posing"... just stating the obvious.
If what I say wasn't true, and joysticks were superior for MMORPGs, then all those guys doing competitions (aka "eSport") in games like WoW would be using joysticks and not mouse+keyboard combos. The "top" sPvP guilds in GW2 would be using joysticks too. They don't, for a very good reason - a mouse + keyboard combo beats any type of joystick/joypad/console controller any time of the day in a MMORPG.
Oh and before someone post that... I know there are videos around of people doing PvP with a controler. Those prove nothing except that controlers actually... suck compared to a mouse
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Oh no, not "flex and posing"... just stating the obvious.
If what I say wasn't true, and joysticks were superior for MMORPGs, then all those guys doing competitions (aka "eSport") in games like WoW would be using joysticks and not mouse+keyboard combos. The "top" sPvP guilds in GW2 would be using joysticks too. They don't, for a very good reason - a mouse + keyboard combo beats any type of joystick/joypad/console controller any time of the day in a MMORPG.
Oh and before someone post that... I know there are videos around of people doing PvP with a controler. Those prove nothing except that controlers actually... suck compared to a mouse
Its because mmo combat isnt good enough yet to warrant a gamepad.
That's the reason why mouse+keyboard are also the best for FPS games then? The only reason controlers work on consoles is because there's no choice. Playing a FPS with a mouse gives WAY superior control and precision - and that's why despite having the choice, all FPS top gamers on PC play with a mouse.
Fact is, games which allow multiplayer between computer and console always either see a complete dominance by the computer players over the console players, or give the console players some degree of auto-aim to make up for it. This isn't really a controversial question. It's a fact. Mouse > Controller. And that's the reason why Microsoft gave up allowing PC players and console players to play those games together, even though the initially intended to support it on the 360.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
Fact is, games which allow multiplayer between computer and console always either see a complete dominance by the computer players over the console players, or give the console players some degree of auto-aim to make up for it. This isn't really a controversial question. It's a fact. Mouse > Controller. And that's the reason why Microsoft gave up allowing PC players and console players to play those games together, even though the initially intended to support it on the 360.
Really? Cause last time i checked, the number of world ranked fighting game tournaments outnumbers mmo pvp tournaments nearly 20 to 1. Trying to bandwagon current mmo combat into fps is straw man at its finest. Oh mmo combat and fps both use kb and mouse? That proves mmos are at the same level? Haha. No.
When an mmo has the same depth of abilities and reaction time as virtua fighter 5, then i will agree with you. But mmo combat in its current form is not even close. I mean you guys are still giddy from having a dodge button lol. You have a long way to go.
Really? Why not just stop postong on MMORPG.COM while not playing MMO's also? I for wone ge sick of people that have to post negative non-sense drivvle in a basically positive thread.
Yeah as he said.
Planetside 2 have no pve but because there is a lot of people playing all the time, it feels very persistent and ongoing, perhaps more so than GW2 in some cases.
GW2 did definitely do it well though, probably the first b2p/f2p mmo to trully have any sort of quality worthy of mentioning and set the bar for the rest to come imo.
That and GW 2 has pretty much 3 games in one, so of course it's gonna seem a lot more people in Planet Side 2 because thats what you log on for PVP not for pvp,pve,and spvp you know?
So it's expected IMO and PSO2 since they mainly focused on that part it's going to be entertaining regardless. I get my Sci Fi fix for that and Firefall.
For 8v8 stuff I play Halo 4 for that, then for my main mmorpg I play Guild Wars 2.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.