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  • YaoimanYaoiman Newkama Land, LAPosts: 51Member
    Yes people are quitting the GW2 because of the horrible kiddie story with terrible writing and characters wth no character, and probably the boring pointless grind at the end. I hink it's about time some of these wannabe MMO's try looking to FFXI (the nearly perfect MMO) for guidance. FFXI endgame is MMO perfection.

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  • MurlockDanceMurlockDance ParisPosts: 1,223Member
    Originally posted by grimal

    The problem, which has been emphasized numerous times already in this thread is there is a lack of players in the sub 70 PVE leveling areas, not WvWvW which you find fine.

    This is indeed a big problem since some of the DEs are meant to be done in a group and then there are problems with getting groups together for some of the lower level dungeons. One guy mentioned he got to level 58 in a group of 5 players, I haven't come across 4 other players in the zones, even talking in /map asking if anyone wanted to do some of the boss DEs.

    I am actually a pretty social player, so I am not allergic to starting groups, heck I even can sometimes manage to scrounge up non-guildies to do some of the few remaining group quests in WoW, but man... if there is anything I can say about both GW2 and SWToR so far is that people seem to really not want to group up, not even if in the long run they get to do content they would otherwise not see.

    Again, I could have just chosen a 'bad' server from a population standpoint, but when I first started, the French servers were on medium and I just chose one of them *shrug*.

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  • fivorothfivoroth LondonPosts: 3,665Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MurlockDance
    Originally posted by grimal

    The problem, which has been emphasized numerous times already in this thread is there is a lack of players in the sub 70 PVE leveling areas, not WvWvW which you find fine.

    This is indeed a big problem since some of the DEs are meant to be done in a group and then there are problems with getting groups together for some of the lower level dungeons. One guy mentioned he got to level 58 in a group of 5 players, I haven't come across 4 other players in the zones, even talking in /map asking if anyone wanted to do some of the boss DEs.

    I am actually a pretty social player, so I am not allergic to starting groups, heck I even can sometimes manage to scrounge up non-guildies to do some of the few remaining group quests in WoW, but man... if there is anything I can say about both GW2 and SWToR so far is that people seem to really not want to group up, not even if in the long run they get to do content they would otherwise not see.

    Again, I could have just chosen a 'bad' server from a population standpoint, but when I first started, the French servers were on medium and I just chose one of them *shrug*.

    I don't have the problems you describe. There are tons of people in the world in all leveling zones. But then again I play on a high population English server. German/French/Spanish servers always have a much lower population to other servers as only those countries play on these servers.

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  • NaralNaral Solway, MNPosts: 751Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Adalwulff

    Still not noticing this "exodus", are you guys sure that  you are playing GW2?

    Everytime I go into the WvW its so packed that I have to wait a few minutes in que. You guys must be thinking of another game, like SWTOR or something....lol

    Well, as a pve'er primarily, they must all be doing pvp these days, because I have seen like 5 other players total in a week of playing in level 60-70 zones.  Maybe that is the issue.

    But even you own barometer of WvW queues indicates a massive drop off in players. The first 4-6 weeks of this game, I had a minimum hour long queue, often over two hours. A few minutes--if your server has a similar population to ours--would indicate a fairly massive population drop.

  • NaralNaral Solway, MNPosts: 751Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Corehaven
    Originally posted by RavingRabbid
    I uninstalled GW2. The  shallow, repetitive, and the "de-leveling" left me not wanting to sign in anymore. I'm not quite sure if there is a mass exodus, but im sure alot of people have left already.

     

    People who have left GW2 and no longer playing it : 

     

    " I'm sure a lot of people are leaving. I left the game and quit.  There could be a mass exodus, but if not, I have no doubt people are leaving...."

     

    People who are currently playing GW2 :

     

    " I've not really noticed any kind of lack in players at all.  There are overflows in Lions Arch at all times.  I see people in every zone and the game feels anything but lifeless to me.  Plenty of people around." 

     

    I think it just MIGHT be logical to listen to the people actually playing it.  You know....as opposed to the people actually not playing it who think the game must be loosing players because....well...they left.  Because apparently everyone was there for them, not the game itself. 

     

    Again people not playing, " Game is dying ", people who are playing it, " Game has a healthy population and I'm enjoying it.".

     

    Yea I think I'll listen to the later thanks. 

    The thing is, I *am* playing it, and liking it. But on our server, the mid level pop is deeeeead. I have played a week at level 50-70 and out in the zones I can cound the number of people I have seen on my fingers.

    Counting the population in Lion's Arch is meaningless. It is *the* primary hub. Many people log in and out there, it is the main travel hub and a main crafting hub. There could be 200 people on the server and you could get an overflow at Lion's Arch.

    Maybe this is server by server, and maybe yours has a much healthier population than ours (Tarnished Coast), but ours is marked as full all the time, it just does not really feel that way at all.

    I guess the main thrust of this entire thread is that at the end of the day, there is a mass exodus from one server to another server? Or that individual results may vary?

    I like the game, and want it to grow and prosper, but it just feels like its going the other direction to me. 

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by Yaoiman
    Yes people are quitting the GW2 because of the horrible kiddie story with terrible writing and characters wth no character, and probably the boring pointless grind at the end. I hink it's about time some of these wannabe MMO's try looking to FFXI (the nearly perfect MMO) for guidance. FFXI endgame is MMO perfection.

    Why is it that whenever I go into LA I get booted to an overflow serever then? If you what you say is true, that wouldn't happen.

    Sorry, I don't think so. [mod edit]

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  • killion81killion81 A City, MIPosts: 985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Yaoiman
    Yes people are quitting the GW2 because of the horrible kiddie story with terrible writing and characters wth no character, and probably the boring pointless grind at the end. I hink it's about time some of these wannabe MMO's try looking to FFXI (the nearly perfect MMO) for guidance. FFXI endgame is MMO perfection.

    Why is it that whenever I go into LA I get booted to an overflow serever then? If you what you say is true, that wouldn't happen.

    Sorry, I don't think so. BTW, the attitude has been noted and could be considered trolling......

     

    Technically, the presence (or absence) of an LA overflow only shows the population of LA on that specifc server.  You could posit that LA population has a direct relation to the populations of all other zones in the game.  However, people have mentioned experiences that would counter that theory, so it would be difficult to prove true in all cases.

     

    That being said, LA overflow can certainly occur on a sparsely populated server, as only the population numbers of LA are taken into account.  Many consider LA to be the 'central social hub' of GW2, which would lead one to believe it's population would depend on the number of socialites currently online, rather than the overall number of online players.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Yaoiman
    Yes people are quitting the GW2 because of the horrible kiddie story with terrible writing and characters wth no character, and probably the boring pointless grind at the end. I hink it's about time some of these wannabe MMO's try looking to FFXI (the nearly perfect MMO) for guidance. FFXI endgame is MMO perfection.

    Why is it that whenever I go into LA I get booted to an overflow serever then? If you what you say is true, that wouldn't happen.

    Sorry, I don't think so. BTW, the attitude has been noted and could be considered trolling......

     

    Technically, the presence (or absence) of an LA overflow only shows the population of LA on that specifc server.  You could posit that LA population has a direct relation to the populations of all other zones in the game.  However, people have mentioned experiences that would counter that theory, so it would be difficult to prove true in all cases.

     

    That being said, LA overflow can certainly occur on a sparsely populated server, as only the population numbers of LA are taken into account.  Many consider LA to be the 'central social hub' of GW2, which would lead one to believe it's population would depend on the number of socialites currently online, rather than the overall number of online players.

    All you can look at is what the login looks like for the servers - the majority say high or full.

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  • killion81killion81 A City, MIPosts: 985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Yaoiman
    Yes people are quitting the GW2 because of the horrible kiddie story with terrible writing and characters wth no character, and probably the boring pointless grind at the end. I hink it's about time some of these wannabe MMO's try looking to FFXI (the nearly perfect MMO) for guidance. FFXI endgame is MMO perfection.

    Why is it that whenever I go into LA I get booted to an overflow serever then? If you what you say is true, that wouldn't happen.

    Sorry, I don't think so. BTW, the attitude has been noted and could be considered trolling......

     

    Technically, the presence (or absence) of an LA overflow only shows the population of LA on that specifc server.  You could posit that LA population has a direct relation to the populations of all other zones in the game.  However, people have mentioned experiences that would counter that theory, so it would be difficult to prove true in all cases.

     

    That being said, LA overflow can certainly occur on a sparsely populated server, as only the population numbers of LA are taken into account.  Many consider LA to be the 'central social hub' of GW2, which would lead one to believe it's population would depend on the number of socialites currently online, rather than the overall number of online players.

    All you can look at is what the login looks like for the servers - the majority say high or full.

     

    Would you rather have a swimming pool filled half way (medium) with gold or a thimble mostly full (high) or full of gold?  Context... of which we have no information on.

  • LurkersLurkers oranburg, SCPosts: 20Member
    I agree there a mass exodus happening.
  • grimalgrimal Stamford, CTPosts: 2,873Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Yaoiman
    Yes people are quitting the GW2 because of the horrible kiddie story with terrible writing and characters wth no character, and probably the boring pointless grind at the end. I hink it's about time some of these wannabe MMO's try looking to FFXI (the nearly perfect MMO) for guidance. FFXI endgame is MMO perfection.

    Why is it that whenever I go into LA I get booted to an overflow serever then? If you what you say is true, that wouldn't happen.

    Sorry, I don't think so. BTW, the attitude has been noted and could be considered trolling......

     

    Technically, the presence (or absence) of an LA overflow only shows the population of LA on that specifc server.  You could posit that LA population has a direct relation to the populations of all other zones in the game.  However, people have mentioned experiences that would counter that theory, so it would be difficult to prove true in all cases.

     

    That being said, LA overflow can certainly occur on a sparsely populated server, as only the population numbers of LA are taken into account.  Many consider LA to be the 'central social hub' of GW2, which would lead one to believe it's population would depend on the number of socialites currently online, rather than the overall number of online players.

    All you can look at is what the login looks like for the servers - the majority say high or full.

    I am calling BS on the server stats at login.

    After 2 months? of it being out I for the life of me cannot believe that the population on my server is the same "Full" that it was at launch.  There have been numerous posts here from a wide variety of people leaving...I am taking this into consideration.  Plus the 10-60 areas are literally dead on my server.  So unless 90% of the pop is all sitting in LA/dungeons/or something else, I am just not buying it.

    All companies fudge numbers in their favor.  ANET is no different.

  • DeniZgDeniZg ZagrebPosts: 669Member Uncommon

    I created my new Char on Sunday, around noon and couldn't find anybody in Char starter zone, at least up to lvl10, on Gandara EU.

    I usuallly wouldn't care, but since this game has many group oriented dynamic events, having noone around reduces the amount of content you can play, which is a shame.

     

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon

    I expected GW2 to be the closest to experience I had in RvR with Daoc. It soooo wasn't even close, so I haven't played GW2 in over a month now. I've never had any luck lasting much time with an mmo that was free to play or buy to play though so I can't say I'm disappointed. I kinda knew it'd be like a PS3 game I'd play for a month, beat it, forget about it, then wait for a better more sandboxy mmo to come out.

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  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by grimal
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by Yaoiman
    Yes people are quitting the GW2 because of the horrible kiddie story with terrible writing and characters wth no character, and probably the boring pointless grind at the end. I hink it's about time some of these wannabe MMO's try looking to FFXI (the nearly perfect MMO) for guidance. FFXI endgame is MMO perfection.

    Why is it that whenever I go into LA I get booted to an overflow serever then? If you what you say is true, that wouldn't happen.

    Sorry, I don't think so. BTW, the attitude has been noted and could be considered trolling......

     

    Technically, the presence (or absence) of an LA overflow only shows the population of LA on that specifc server.  You could posit that LA population has a direct relation to the populations of all other zones in the game.  However, people have mentioned experiences that would counter that theory, so it would be difficult to prove true in all cases.

     

    That being said, LA overflow can certainly occur on a sparsely populated server, as only the population numbers of LA are taken into account.  Many consider LA to be the 'central social hub' of GW2, which would lead one to believe it's population would depend on the number of socialites currently online, rather than the overall number of online players.

    All you can look at is what the login looks like for the servers - the majority say high or full.

    I am calling BS on the server stats at login.

    After 2 months? of it being out I for the life of me cannot believe that the population on my server is the same "Full" that it was at launch.  There have been numerous posts here from a wide variety of people leaving...I am taking this into consideration.  Plus the 10-60 areas are literally dead on my server.  So unless 90% of the pop is all sitting in LA/dungeons/or something else, I am just not buying it.

    All companies fudge numbers in their favor.  ANET is no different.

    Agreed, when I left people were doing the event and the new dungeon.

    I got put into overflow, when I entered Lion's Arch I saw 5 people. Three at the Auction House and 2 wandering around, it was surreal. Normal days there would be 50 or more ppl hanging at the auction house. What that means to me is that people were probably counted that were in that new dungeon. For those of us that didn't delete every character we played when we left, that may count as population too because at any point we could just login, the game doesn't know any different.

     

    We do know that they can change the server caps on the fly, they mentioned that they were raising them for the free trial so that people could play with people that invited them. Like the thimble and pool analogy was mentioned, we don't know what the physical caps are. Some people guesstimate that overflow happens with 200 players but even that they don't know for sure.

  • lotapartylotaparty taxila canttPosts: 514Member
    Originally posted by chaintm

    Actually due to this thread…
     

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads/first


    I am leaving the game as well.. don't take me wrong its a good game and all, but this changes everything for players like me. I wish everyone a good farewell and gl in the future, for some will like this. I however, do not and won’t participate. This was NOT suppose to happen in GW2 according to so many interviews and post from the devs. It feels like a slap to the face to be honest, the grind was never to be part of GW2 never, now it is if you want to "compete" and it seems this is just step one in many more releases according to one rep that said basicly collect threw out the year and into the future.

    Yeah, GWoW2 , no thnx.

    You can discuss and say the exodus won't happen, but i know for FACT i won't play this game ever again. Meh I got my 50 out of it and I know a few that feel the same. I could be wrong here, but I never seen so many say "yeah, I am done too" and talk about playing Magic The Gathering 2013 and more , I think Anet is going to bite a big bullet on this move. Just my thoughts on it anyways.

    I realize there is a thread about this topic so this is more about people actually leaving over it. I beleive many will as I will. I have yet to go back to starwars the old republic for promises broken there so I see no reason to go back to gw2. Your thoughts? Are you leaving? have you just thought "bah I don't care!".

    Just seems like another money grab, just like the "there will be no changes in this up-coming maintance" ,, people log into WvWvW and now siege equipement only last exactly 10min then the previous 30min. Seems GW2 to me at least is becoming a money hog.

     

    -chaintm

     

    i am done too ,after playing the free trial . horrible game and now with nexon on the horizon .i have no hopes for this game. 

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  • lotapartylotaparty taxila canttPosts: 514Member
    Originally posted by DeniZg

    I created my new Char on Sunday, around noon and couldn't find anybody in Char starter zone, at least up to lvl10, on Gandara EU.

    I usuallly wouldn't care, but since this game has many group oriented dynamic events, having noone around reduces the amount of content you can play, which is a shame.

     

    yup it is pvp oriented game so less people mean no fun and death of game . 

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  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by lotaparty
    Originally posted by chaintm

    Actually due to this thread…
     

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads/first


    I am leaving the game as well.. don't take me wrong its a good game and all, but this changes everything for players like me. I wish everyone a good farewell and gl in the future, for some will like this. I however, do not and won’t participate. This was NOT suppose to happen in GW2 according to so many interviews and post from the devs. It feels like a slap to the face to be honest, the grind was never to be part of GW2 never, now it is if you want to "compete" and it seems this is just step one in many more releases according to one rep that said basicly collect threw out the year and into the future.

    Yeah, GWoW2 , no thnx.

    You can discuss and say the exodus won't happen, but i know for FACT i won't play this game ever again. Meh I got my 50 out of it and I know a few that feel the same. I could be wrong here, but I never seen so many say "yeah, I am done too" and talk about playing Magic The Gathering 2013 and more , I think Anet is going to bite a big bullet on this move. Just my thoughts on it anyways.

    I realize there is a thread about this topic so this is more about people actually leaving over it. I beleive many will as I will. I have yet to go back to starwars the old republic for promises broken there so I see no reason to go back to gw2. Your thoughts? Are you leaving? have you just thought "bah I don't care!".

    Just seems like another money grab, just like the "there will be no changes in this up-coming maintance" ,, people log into WvWvW and now siege equipement only last exactly 10min then the previous 30min. Seems GW2 to me at least is becoming a money hog.

     

    -chaintm

     

    i am done too ,after playing the free trial . horrible game and now with nexon on the horizon .i have no hopes for this game. 

    AHH - the old Nexon conspiracy theory rears it's ugly head again. Nexon is not really interested in GW2, I bet, just the game engine and it's patching system.

     

    You don't like the game- not an issue.

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  • killion81killion81 A City, MIPosts: 985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by lotaparty

    i am done too ,after playing the free trial . horrible game and now with nexon on the horizon .i have no hopes for this game. 

    AHH - the old Nexon conspiracy theory rears it's ugly head again. Nexon is not really interested in GW2, I bet, just the game engine and it's patching system.

     

    You don't like the game- not an issue.

     

    Interestingly, the GW2 gem store jumped on the Black Friday bandwagon, despite having no gifting options (as of the last time I logged in) and no tangible products.  Did the GW1 cash shop ever run Black Friday specials?  You have to admit the GW2 gem store is more aggressively marketed than the GW1 cash shop ever was.  In my opinion, it has something to do with the ex-Nexon Monetization Producer they hired.  Maybe Nexon's influence isn't as direct as some people believe, but the fact that the current GW2 Monetization Producer worked at Nexon for years prior to moving to ANet and the difference in approach in cash shops between GW1 and GW2 suggests to me that some of Nexon's company culture has been carried over with the employee.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by lotaparty

    i am done too ,after playing the free trial . horrible game and now with nexon on the horizon .i have no hopes for this game. 

    AHH - the old Nexon conspiracy theory rears it's ugly head again. Nexon is not really interested in GW2, I bet, just the game engine and it's patching system.

     

    You don't like the game- not an issue.

     

    Interestingly, the GW2 gem store jumped on the Black Friday bandwagon, despite having no gifting options (as of the last time I logged in) and no tangible products.  Did the GW1 cash shop ever run Black Friday specials?  You have to admit the GW2 gem store is more aggressively marketed than the GW1 cash shop ever was.  In my opinion, it has something to do with the ex-Nexon Monetization Producer they hired.  Maybe Nexon's influence isn't as direct as some people believe, but the fact that the current GW2 Monetization Producer worked at Nexon for years prior to moving to ANet and the difference in approach in cash shops between GW1 and GW2 suggests to me that some of Nexon's company culture has been carried over with the employee.

    Yes they did in GW1. So your conspiracy theory and the fact that the emplyee in question started in January BEFORE Nexon bought the stock says volumes about how little reality affects conspiracy theories.

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  • david361107david361107 chattanooga, TNPosts: 279Member

    GW2 was dead to me the first week I played it. I even waited a week after release in the hopes that I would get past all the hype, i was wrong. Got the game, played the game some and was disappointed right from the beginning. The game seems to play itself, nothing hard about it, i just ran around leveling and not really doing anything it seemed. GW2 is nothing more than a very pretty world with no feeling which is sad. I never want any MMO to be bad or fail, the more we have the better it is for every gamer out here. But for GW2 to throw in a gear grind on top of a game that hasn't really proved itself yet is pretty sad as well.

     

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  • BigAndShinyBigAndShiny LondonPosts: 176Member

    SW:TOR has better story

    TSW has better dialogue/characters

    TERA has better combat

    WOW has better world design/quest flow

    *ALL OF THE ABOVE* have a better endgame. 

     

    GW2 has no legs left to stand on.  When big budget games like SWTOR and TSW 'fail', they keep behind a small hardcore audience that can support the dev team.  That's why we have LOTRO/DDO/Conan/EQ2 still receiving content today.

    GW2 doesn't have that hardcore audience because the only content available at endgame is a grind for weapons that offer very very little statistical bonus(es) and are mostly just there for cosmetics.  It's lore is boring, it's story is lackluster, it has no memorable characters and few interesting locations. 

    There is nothing *there*.   I am confident in saying that, while they may have far fewer developers than launch, The Secret World and The Old Republic will still be receiving content 2 years from now.  I'm not sure if GW2 will.

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    I should note that completing 60 fractals only left me at level 17, as each "fractal" is considered one path.
  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,565Member Uncommon

    None of my friends play it anymore. That shocks me because they relentlessly tried to get me to play everytime we went out for like two months. Now its just another game on the shelf collecting dust. Its weird thinking about games like swtor and gw2 now. People got so worked up, myself included. But in the end, they are added to the list of forgettable games.

  • Size-TwelveSize-Twelve Lansing, MIPosts: 494Member

    These forums are officially a cesspool. It was doom and gloom before launch. It was doom and gloom during launch. It's doom and gloom now months after launch, and it's like this for every new game.


    The reality is that GW2 is solid. Now leveling my second character (Human), the starting areas are very populated (Sanctum of Rall). People call out the names of Champion mobs in chat and link the waypoints. By the time the boss is downed there are 20 or more people fighting. Occasionally I'll have to get out my level 80 to help kick some events off or help other players complete, but often there are plenty of people running around the zone.


    My guild runs events every week to down all of the event Dragons, and recruit people in /map to help unlock Arah. There is so much to do in this game between the different personal story lines, all of the crafting recipes, the dungeon runs, and different PvP. Population numbers will fluctuate as people have school, and holiday, as other games come out etc., but GW2 has no sub! You are free to come and go as you please, that's what's so great. Cripes, someone just discovered a whole secret room full of kittens on the Borderlands jumping puzzle that I've done literally hundreds of times: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID08AqRhDRA

    How much more stuff like that is out there?


    There are always going to be issues. ANet is never going to be able to respond fast enough for every players number 1 issue (it's always changing anyway as things get fixed), but the game is solid and fun to play. People will be hanging around a long time. I'm not griping with anyone pointing out legit issues, because there are some, but it's like a hivemind of negativity dominates these forums in particular.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by Size-Twelve

    These forums are officially a cesspool. It was doom and gloom before launch. It was doom and gloom during launch. It's doom and gloom now months after launch, and it's like this for every new game.


    The reality is that GW2 is solid. Now leveling my second character (Human), the starting areas are very populated (Sanctum of Rall). People call out the names of Champion mobs in chat and link the waypoints. By the time the boss is downed there are 20 or more people fighting. Occasionally I'll have to get out my level 80 to help kick some events off or help other players complete, but often there are plenty of people running around the zone.


    My guild runs events every week to down all of the event Dragons, and recruit people in /map to help unlock Arah. There is so much to do in this game between the different personal story lines, all of the crafting recipes, the dungeon runs, and different PvP. Population numbers will fluctuate as people have school, and holiday, as other games come out etc., but GW2 has no sub! You are free to come and go as you please, that's what's so great. Cripes, someone just discovered a whole secret room full of kittens on the Borderlands jumping puzzle that I've done literally hundreds of times: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID08AqRhDRA

    How much more stuff like that is out there?


    There are always going to be issues. ANet is never going to be able to respond fast enough for every players number 1 issue (it's always changing anyway as things get fixed), but the game is solid and fun to play. People will be hanging around a long time. I'm not griping with anyone pointing out legit issues, because there are some, but it's like a hivemind of negativity dominates these forums in particular.

    I agree - this forum should be called 'Pessimistorpg.com' .

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    "In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
    by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

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