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The best Bow and Arrow class of any MMORPG?

jeeshadowjeeshadow Garland, TXPosts: 81Member

Of course I realize i'm just getting opinions.  But fire away!

 

I've always enjoyed two classes in MMO's more than any others.  The heavy armored tank.  And the range class using rifle, longbow, shortbow, etc.

 

My first experience with this class was with DAoC before Darkness Falls was added.  I loved the scout!  The range was intense, and when he crit'd, it was insane damage!  But that's not what I really enjoyed about him now that I think about it.  I enjoyed the complexity of the stats of the weapon and the arrows.  You would have to choose and equip the arrows you think could do the best armor penetration depending on who you had your sights set on.  And you could make these arrows and more advance bows.  In short, you felt like a true archer, not a machine gun shooter with narrow wooden bullets.

 

The vanilla version of the WoW hunter was also a lot of fun, and for me it had to do with the complexity of it.  There was now pet management (and it wasn't that easy to train a pet) and the crafting and choosing of the ammunition.  The introduction of the rifle was a favorite part of that.  Having a dwarf with a rifle just felt right, having a dwarf with a bow....seemed wrong!

 

There's ton more examples, so for all you fellow archers out there, which one is the best for you?

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  • grimgryphongrimgryphon Pacific Northwest, WAPosts: 682Member
    I play a ranger/bowman in almost every game and personally, I enjoy them in LOTRO and Vanguard the best.

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  • ForumPvPForumPvP KingstownPosts: 871Member

    Darkfall

    why,well aiming and timing and shooting.

    Let's internet

  • jeeshadowjeeshadow Garland, TXPosts: 81Member
    Originally posted by grimgryphon
    I play a ranger/bowman in almost every game and personally, I enjoy them in LOTRO and Vanguard the best.

     

     

    Yah, I was thinking of mentioning LOTRO, I played the ranger in that one since it's beta.  But what about that class in that game, or Vanguard, did you enjoy?

     

    The reason I ask, is because it seems that the ranger has been dumbed down to nothing in recent games, and I'm referring principally to GW2, where you're just an automatic endless supply shooting automoton.  Same with Tera.

  • KilraneKilrane Sedro-Woolley, WAPosts: 255Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ForumPvP

    Darkfall

    why,well aiming and timing and shooting.

    As much as I hate to admit it...Darkfall did have the best use of a bow and arrow in any MMO to date.

  • grimgryphongrimgryphon Pacific Northwest, WAPosts: 682Member
    Originally posted by jeeshadow
    Originally posted by grimgryphon
    I play a ranger/bowman in almost every game and personally, I enjoy them in LOTRO and Vanguard the best.

     

     

    Yah, I was thinking of mentioning LOTRO, I played the ranger in that one since it's beta.  But what about that class in that game, or Vanguard, did you enjoy?

     

    The reason I ask, is because it seems that the ranger has been dumbed down to nothing in recent games, and I'm referring principally to GW2, where you're just an automatic endless supply shooting automoton.  Same with Tera.

    Yeah, the ranger in GW2 is AWFUL.

    Personally, in LOTRO, the hunter class has enough variety so you're not just shooting your bow all the time. You can set traps and melee is pretty good in the hunter also. It allows you to develop a bit of strategy.

    In Vanguard, spears and javelins can be used in addition to the bow. Also the ranger has some command over nature and it makes the class feel more outdoorsy.

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  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon
    For me, I really enjoyed the ranger class in AoC. Actually maxed him out really well too. I enjoyed Darkfall too, but AoC's system was a lot of fun for me.
  • LustmordLustmord Mt. Gilead, OHPosts: 1,095Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ForumPvP

    Darkfall

    why,well aiming and timing and shooting.

    This.

    And hearing the creak of the wood as you pull back the string.

  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member
    Originally posted by jeeshadow

     

    The reason I ask, is because it seems that the ranger has been dumbed down to nothing in recent games, and I'm referring principally to GW2, where you're just an automatic endless supply shooting automoton.  Same with Tera.

     Eh, you really don't fire a lot of arrows in TERA outside the low levels, you spend a majority of the time firing ranged traps, using your melee stun, dropping ground traps or using backstep/breakaway bolt.

     

    The only arrows you really use are charged shot and restraining arrow, also to be fair, the endless shooting is because archers in TERA use magic to conjure energy into the shape of an arrow, it's not actually an arrow.

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  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,461Member Uncommon

    FFXi

    Wide array of choices from xbows to long bow to guns.Big selection of ammo as well,albeit is pretty much level based.Crafting is also a very large part in the ranger class,but crafting goes a long way in all classes.No pet,i don't believe copying other games using the pet is a good choice.A ranger should be all about Ranged combat,not pet combat.That is why FFXI does classes really good,the pet class is the Beastmaster.

    The Ranger can use status bolts,elem,ental arrows,debuff bolts,sleep bolts/arrows,health regain bolts,add to that abilities to bind and create very large damage and utilize several choices for a sub class,makes it versatile and fun.


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  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon

    Hunter in LOTRO was good. Archer in TERA was also good. In TERA it's not like a woodsman archer type character, but it's proper aim and shoot with charge up attacks and the like. The bows looked awesome as well.

    Yeh, I think I enjoyed TERA's Archer the most out of all MMOs

  • xDayxxDayx St Charles, MOPosts: 712Member

    Vanguard- rangers could make their own arrows and they 'felt' like a ranger.

    Lotro- Hunters arrow skills had alot of different effects, IE Crowd control etc,  also felt like a ranger.

    Darkfall- Too bad everyone was the same class, but yeah shooting a bow felt awesome in df with trajectory and first person.

  • ThorkuneThorkune Eastern, KYPosts: 1,830Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by grimgryphon
    I play a ranger/bowman in almost every game and personally, I enjoy them in LOTRO and Vanguard the best.

    I agree with these choices as well.

    And...I like the Saboteur build in Rift also.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,781Member Uncommon

    its a matter of opinions here so i wont say the best archers of any mmo. On a personal note,  the archers that i have enjoyed the most are the Force Archer in Cabal Online, the Stalker in Allods, Hunters in WoW (before they limited them to 1 weapon only, bow or melee, not both which now sux).

    There are many other good archer classes out there but i cant think of them right now.

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  • grimgryphongrimgryphon Pacific Northwest, WAPosts: 682Member
    Originally posted by bigsmiff
    Originally posted by grimgryphon
    I play a ranger/bowman in almost every game and personally, I enjoy them in LOTRO and Vanguard the best.

    I agree with these choices as well.

    And...I like the Saboteur build in Rift also.

    The sab was my first build I played in Rift and I loved it. My final build was a marksman, however.

    The sad thing is that I love ranger-type classes but hate pets, which always seem to be attached to the class. 

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  • FonclFoncl UppsalaPosts: 197Member
    I really like the Shadow Warrior in Warhammer Online. I don't like pets and I want good mobility, being able to move while attacking so Shadow Warrior in WAR fits me.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,931Member Uncommon
    I haven't played enought to decide.   I normally choose warrior types.  The only ones I've played hunters in are LOTRO and WOW.  I'd choose the WOW version any day.  But then again, combat was never LOTRO forte.
  • ScorchienScorchien Hatboro, PAPosts: 1,344Member Uncommon
     I think i mat have max lvl a range class in nearly every AAA  MMO since UO and my favorite to this day was AC2 Ranger.. just a great ranger feel and fun .. Scout in DAoC was also fun ....
  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Matrix, NYPosts: 911Member Uncommon
    My favorite bow and arrow class of any MMORPG would be Runescape.

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  • jeeshadowjeeshadow Garland, TXPosts: 81Member

    I might try out Darkfall 2, never did try the first one.  Hopefully the ranger will be the same style.

     

    I did enjoy Tera for a little while, but couldn't stay with it.  And using "magic" for arrows is just a plot device to explain why you don't need a quiver?  When did that become so bad?

     

    I like being able to choose an arrow, knock the arrow, pull back and release.  It's the whole point of choosing that class, imo.

     

    Oh and someone mentioned AoC, yes, they did have a good archer didn't they?  loved the crit when you hit someone's artery, lol.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,672Member Uncommon
    Asheron's Call. In a game where speed and jump are actual skills and where damage types truly mean something, the bow character is really amazing to play. You have a slider with speed on one side and accuracy on the other, so you can control whether you want to rapid fire easy targets or ensure landing the shot on harder targets. There are just so many cool aspects to it that it is by far my favorite of all the ones I've played.

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  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,332Member Uncommon
    The original DAoC Scout was fun, and probably my favorite.  Most bow classes have to do some melee or kite or something.  The Scout was almost purely a bow class.  Other than the popular use of a shield to stun your enemy to escape, everything pretty much relies on your bow.  I say the Original, because the scout used to do insane amounts of damage with thier first shot.  They had access to fairly slow, but extremely high damage longbow.  Friends and myself used to sit on keep walls cooridinating attacks on attackers, pretty much killing them in 1 hit.  Another thing that was fun about the Scout was you could change your damage type by changing the arrows you used.  So you could theroetically have an advantage against any armor type, just switch out your arrows, like broadhead arrows did slashing damage.  I never had as much fun as I did with my Scout.
  • mikecacklemikecackle City, ILPosts: 151Member
    Ashersons Call and Shadowbane. While i don't play rogue alot, I remember having the most fun in these games and being a real tough cookies in shadowbane... I was heavily feared on my server, i think the hunting/cloaking in that game was hardcore intense
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,672Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mikecackle
    Ashersons Call and Shadowbane. While i don't play rogue alot, I remember having the most fun in these games and being a real tough cookies in shadowbane... I was heavily feared on my server, i think the hunting/cloaking in that game was hardcore intense

    Hunting down scouts, trangulating their position, and trying to spot them before they spot you was incredible in Shadowbane. I played a light armor rogue barbarian, and about the only thing I really feared were the scouts. Hunting someone that's also hunting you is pretty wild gameplay.

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
    "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre

  • ThupliThupli Spokane, WAPosts: 587Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by grimgryphon

    The sad thing is that I love ranger-type classes but hate pets, which always seem to be attached to the class. 

     Quoted for truth.  Finally got a play a non-pet Arrow class in GW2 with my warrior that doesn't have a pet and love the fire-arrrow effect.  They do need more skill choices but I have no doubt that they will add more when they release more content/expansions.

  • junzo316junzo316 Raleigh, NCPosts: 1,684Member Uncommon
    I, too, like ranger classes.  Loved the ranger class in LOTRO, and WoW.  Just made the ranger in GW2, it's kinda fun, but not the best by any means.  I've enjoyed reading the other posters' comments.  I think I may have to try Vanguard.
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