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They Shut Down the 11,000 Post Thread

MeleagarMeleagar Nunyadambidness, TXPosts: 407Member

ANET didn't even respond in it to any of the issues/grievances.  No explanations, no reasoning, no assurances, nothing. Just shut it down, and at the same time I was temporarily suspended from the forum. I wonder how many other contributors to that thread were suspended from the forums?

I don't care who you are or how you feel about ascended, when a developer just won't respond to a 11,000 post thread with over 135,000 views showing no signs of ending and then just shuts it down, that just isn't right.

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  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon

    lol It's their new manifesto maybe.

    If it comes out in writing it could be something like this...

    We don't like you, we never liked you. We are targeting someone else that enjoys dungeons non-stop. Thank you for your monetary contribution and hype for our game, now leave.

    Whadyagonnado. They stopped the conversation because they are ready to see if people will follow through or keep moaning to get feedback. They don't want to give any feedback beyond what has been given.

    I need a proper video to link about this.

    Here, we can all sing along to this about our sadness. I think it represents the current state of things, don't you?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM

     

  • cptndunselcptndunsel Orlando, FLPosts: 136Member Uncommon

    At this point Anet knows the event was FUBAR but have no plans to address any of the issues nor compensate anyone impacted. So they would prefer to ignore the entire thing and move on, hoping the players will do the same. Some players may quit the game but I don't think Anet really cares that much - they have the $ already. So maybe they miss some gem sales - I doubt it impacts them much as those remaining will likely offset this.

     

    The bigger issue here is Nexon. We have now all seen how Nexon is going to influence the game and its not pretty. Even the Anet guys knows this stinks - their inside joke (the under new mgmt sign in the Lost Shores for example) tells its own story. I doubt they have full control of the franchise at this point.

     

    So - after this giant cluster, and the addition of the infinite gear grind (Fractal dungeon) what does the future hold? As with TSW I believe the fanbois will stay with the game regardless of what happens while many others will jump to the flavor of the month game, whatever that is, in months to come.

     

    The GW2 forums have shown themselves to be moderated by a group that has low tolerance for negativity (warranted or not, constructive or not) so its not surprising they nuked the thread.

  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common

    I don't play GW2, so dont know what happened, other than there was a one time event.

     

    Are people mad because 

    a. real life commitments prevented them from attending or

    b. it was a terrible event

     

    If its a. and people are upset about this, it comes back to 'this is why we cant have nice things'.  The stupid negativity over the first Rift world event being a one time thing ruined everything after. (though the fact Rift at the time couldnt, and probably still cant, technically handle such things might be the true ruiner)

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by cptndunsel

    The bigger issue here is Nexon. We have now all seen how Nexon is going to influence the game and its not pretty. Even the Anet guys knows this stinks - their inside joke (the under new mgmt sign in the Lost Shores for example) tells its own story. I doubt they have full control of the franchise at this point.

     

    Can someone elborate on this?  What influence does Nexon have on GW2?  I know nothing about Nexon.

  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by strangiato2112

    I don't play GW2, so dont know what happened, other than there was a one time event.

     

    Are people mad because 

    a. real life commitments prevented them from attending or

    b. it was a terrible event

     

    If its a. and people are upset about this, it comes back to 'this is why we cant have nice things'.  The stupid negativity over the first Rift world event being a one time thing ruined everything after. (though the fact Rift at the time couldnt, and probably still cant, technically handle such things might be the true ruiner)

    The anger isn't really about the event.

    There were plenty of bugs and lag in the event but the larger concern is about a new type of gear called ascended being introduced.

    If you want to see people go thru the details about it, this is a video that was made about it with differing opinions just before it came out.

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/video-game-shows/guild-wars-video/guildcast-guild-wars-show/fear-the-gear-grind/

    Or, you could go read thousands of posts in the thread they locked on the forum. That one may take longer than the video.

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads

     

    Since ppl were only slightly mad about other things, this sort of reversal of the game core values has made people review all their thoughts on the game instead of just letting them pass by. Like me, I didn't just stop playing because of ascended gear but because Wvwvw gets little support and that they focus on event coding when there are profession bugs etc. I was overlooking my "small" complaints but this gear thing made it all become larger throwing it under the magnifying lens because then I wondered what else is a lie.

    The gist is that once you believe you were lied to, you start questioning everything and all the intentions.

    It's like being cheated on in a relationship, all of a sudden you start looking back saying - oh that time you were missing, you were cheating then too huh. It's a dirty snowball filled with sticks and mud just rolling along in someone's mind.

     

     

  • cybertruckercybertrucker Pensacola, FLPosts: 1,119Member

    what we had was an awesome event. was a one time event and the entitlement crowd that missed it are upset.

     

    The great thing is. Alot of the bad apples will leave the game.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by strangiato2112

    I don't play GW2, so dont know what happened, other than there was a one time event.

     

    Are people mad because 

    a. real life commitments prevented them from attending or

    b. it was a terrible event

     

    If its a. and people are upset about this, it comes back to 'this is why we cant have nice things'.  The stupid negativity over the first Rift world event being a one time thing ruined everything after. (though the fact Rift at the time couldnt, and probably still cant, technically handle such things might be the true ruiner)

    The thread wasn't about the event.  But my opinion of the event is that it would be better if they had phasing technology or at least utilized overlfows to mimic it.  What I mean is let people pick up the event late.  Heck let them do everything on the last day.  They just need to be in the proper phased instance of the zones to complete each part.

  • ToxiaToxia Lake Charles, LAPosts: 1,319Member Uncommon

    What...11000 post thread are you talking about? The merged disconnect thread? the one at...1000 posts roughly?

     

    Time for a link, please, because i see nothing on the forums and i've been waiting for response as well.

    Where's your eleven thousand post thread?

    The Deep Web is sca-ry.

  • killion81killion81 A City, MIPosts: 985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Toxia

    What...11000 post thread are you talking about? The merged disconnect thread? the one at...1000 posts roughly?

     

    Time for a link, please, because i see nothing on the forums and i've been waiting for response as well.

    Where's your eleven thousand post thread?

     

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads

    11,084 replies, 137,074 views

  • f0dell54f0dell54 Des Moines, IAPosts: 329Member
    Originally posted by Toxia

    What...11000 post thread are you talking about? The merged disconnect thread? the one at...1000 posts roughly?

     

    Time for a link, please, because i see nothing on the forums and i've been waiting for response as well.

    Where's your eleven thousand post thread?

     

    edited for insanity

  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by Toxia

    What...11000 post thread are you talking about? The merged disconnect thread? the one at...1000 posts roughly?

     

    Time for a link, please, because i see nothing on the forums and i've been waiting for response as well.

    Where's your eleven thousand post thread?

     

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads

    11,084 replies, 137,074 views

    Aaaaand, those posts that show are the ones that weren't deleted.

    You can see deleted posts by typing something into search (top right) while on the thread.

    Type in for example "refund" and see some deleted posts.

    You can also see some with "wvw" search.

    Typing "kitten" also gives some deleted posts. (Kitten is their forum filter for bad words)

    Wherever you see

    (User was infracted for this post.)

    on the right side, not only was the post deleted but the players given points that can result in an eventual forum ban.

    The only sucky part is that I haven't found a way to "only" see deleted posts and each search only shows 50 at a time soo... you don't get all the results.

  • killion81killion81 A City, MIPosts: 985Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by Toxia

    What...11000 post thread are you talking about? The merged disconnect thread? the one at...1000 posts roughly?

     

    Time for a link, please, because i see nothing on the forums and i've been waiting for response as well.

    Where's your eleven thousand post thread?

     

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads

    11,084 replies, 137,074 views

    Aaaaand, those posts that show are the ones that weren't deleted.

    You can see deleted posts by typing something into search (top right) while on the thread.

    Type in for example "refund" and see some deleted posts.

    You can also see some with "wvw" search.

    Typing "kitten" also gives some deleted posts. (Kitten is their forum filter for bad words)

    Wherever you see

    (User was infracted for this post.)

    on the right side, not only was the post deleted but the players given points that can result in an eventual forum ban.

     

     

    Some of those deleted posts + infractions are crazy.  They are level headed, well thought out posts.  In the 'refund' search it looks like someone was even infracted for quoting and replying to (in ANets defense) another post that probably deserved to be deleted and infracted.

  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by Toxia

    What...11000 post thread are you talking about? The merged disconnect thread? the one at...1000 posts roughly?

     

    Time for a link, please, because i see nothing on the forums and i've been waiting for response as well.

    Where's your eleven thousand post thread?

     

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads

    11,084 replies, 137,074 views

    Aaaaand, those posts that show are the ones that weren't deleted.

    You can see deleted posts by typing something into search (top right) while on the thread.

    Type in for example "refund" and see some deleted posts.

    You can also see some with "wvw" search.

    Typing "kitten" also gives some deleted posts. (Kitten is their forum filter for bad words)

    Wherever you see

    (User was infracted for this post.)

    on the right side, not only was the post deleted but the players given points that can result in an eventual forum ban.

     

     

    Some of those deleted posts + infractions are crazy.  They are level headed, well thought out posts.  In the 'refund' search it looks like someone was even infracted for quoting and replying to (in ANets defense) another post that probably deserved to be deleted and infracted.

    Bingo.

  • evolver1972evolver1972 Port Orchard, WAPosts: 1,118Member

    Hello, everyone:

    It appears that most of the people who had an opinion about the issue have already voiced their thoughts.

    The debate in this thread is becoming quite circular and the discussion has now run its course.

    As such, we’re going to close this thread.

    Please refer to the message from our Studio Design Director, Chris Whiteside, for our response to concerns about this issue.

    Thank you all for your feedback and participation. We appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us.

     

    Very last page of the thread.

     

    But, hey, we all know Anet doesn't care.

     

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    You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

    Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  • PivotelitePivotelite Hamilton, ONPosts: 2,167Member
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by greenreen
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by Toxia

    What...11000 post thread are you talking about? The merged disconnect thread? the one at...1000 posts roughly?

     

    Time for a link, please, because i see nothing on the forums and i've been waiting for response as well.

    Where's your eleven thousand post thread?

     

    https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Thoughts-on-Ascended-Gear-Merged-threads

    11,084 replies, 137,074 views

    Aaaaand, those posts that show are the ones that weren't deleted.

    You can see deleted posts by typing something into search (top right) while on the thread.

    Type in for example "refund" and see some deleted posts.

    You can also see some with "wvw" search.

    Typing "kitten" also gives some deleted posts. (Kitten is their forum filter for bad words)

    Wherever you see

    (User was infracted for this post.)

    on the right side, not only was the post deleted but the players given points that can result in an eventual forum ban.

     

     

    Some of those deleted posts + infractions are crazy.  They are level headed, well thought out posts.  In the 'refund' search it looks like someone was even infracted for quoting and replying to (in ANets defense) another post that probably deserved to be deleted and infracted.

    Bingo.

    That's just the way Anet handles forums and it's disgusting, I stated here i've been banned multiple times and the "fanboys" here say I probably deserved it. Offering suggestions is bannable under "trolling" apparently.

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  • UNH0LYEV1LUNH0LYEV1L Summerville, SCPosts: 412Member Uncommon
    Yikes. lol


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  • FlawSGIFlawSGI Woodstock, GAPosts: 1,378Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evolver1972

    Hello, everyone:

    It appears that most of the people who had an opinion about the issue have already voiced their thoughts.

    The debate in this thread is becoming quite circular and the discussion has now run its course.

    As such, we’re going to close this thread.

    Please refer to the message from our Studio Design Director, Chris Whiteside, for our response to concerns about this issue.

    Thank you all for your feedback and participation. We appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us.

     

    Very last page of the thread.

     

    But, hey, we all know Anet doesn't care.

     

    Glad I wasn't the only one who saw a response because I was really confused. OP says they didn't given an explination and then I see one right there at the bottom.   Weird.......

    RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.

  • KingJigglyKingJiggly Simpsonville, SCPosts: 777Member
    I would to. What kind of sane people would go through all 11,000 whom basically say the same thing? Your individual opinion truefully doesnt matter,  it is just the whole... which I am sure they got within that 11,000 post thread.
  • snapfusionsnapfusion San, CAPosts: 954Member

    Dont you wish Anet had a sub so you could "unsub" in protest?  Oh wait.  Yet again arnt you playing for "free" now that you have bought the game?  Your playing for free but trying to tell Anet how to run their game?  Dont you now wish you were paying a sub so you had some control over he developer?  Free things are better arnt they?

  • KingJigglyKingJiggly Simpsonville, SCPosts: 777Member
    Originally posted by snapfusion

    Dont you wish Anet had a sub so you could "unsub" in protest?  Oh wait.  Yet again arnt you playing for "free" now that you have bought the game?  Your playing for free but trying to tell Anet how to run their game?  Dont you now wish you were paying a sub so you had some control over he developer?  Free things are better arnt they?

    Remember, these are the same people with 200+ hours invested... but of course its not like it cost them money to play those hours lol.

  • snapfusionsnapfusion San, CAPosts: 954Member
    Originally posted by KingJiggly
    Originally posted by snapfusion

    Dont you wish Anet had a sub so you could "unsub" in protest?  Oh wait.  Yet again arnt you playing for "free" now that you have bought the game?  Your playing for free but trying to tell Anet how to run their game?  Dont you now wish you were paying a sub so you had some control over he developer?  Free things are better arnt they?

    Remember, these are the same people with 200+ hours invested... but of course its not like it cost them money to play those hours lol.

    I swear, its so funny to see people get exactly what they ask for then complain about it.

  • Br3akingDawnBr3akingDawn a City, CAPosts: 1,356Member Uncommon

    Anet: You dont like it?

    Player: No

    Anet: That's... too bad.

    Player: But I bought the game....

    Anet: We already got your money..... Sucker!!

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  • AlberelAlberel LondonPosts: 1,121Member
    Originally posted by snapfusion
    Originally posted by KingJiggly
    Originally posted by snapfusion

    Dont you wish Anet had a sub so you could "unsub" in protest?  Oh wait.  Yet again arnt you playing for "free" now that you have bought the game?  Your playing for free but trying to tell Anet how to run their game?  Dont you now wish you were paying a sub so you had some control over he developer?  Free things are better arnt they?

    Remember, these are the same people with 200+ hours invested... but of course its not like it cost them money to play those hours lol.

    I swear, its so funny to see people get exactly what they ask for then complain about it.

    No one asked for a gear grind so I think you're seeing things.

    ANet said they'd do one thing then did the opposite. Whether the game is free (which it isn't, we paid money for it and the service is included in the box price) or not isn't important. They lied, that's all there is to it.

    The fact they don't even have the decency to apologise for wasting everyone's money is what's frustrating everyone.

  • Br3akingDawnBr3akingDawn a City, CAPosts: 1,356Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Alberel
    Originally posted by snapfusion
    Originally posted by KingJiggly
    Originally posted by snapfusion

    Dont you wish Anet had a sub so you could "unsub" in protest?  Oh wait.  Yet again arnt you playing for "free" now that you have bought the game?  Your playing for free but trying to tell Anet how to run their game?  Dont you now wish you were paying a sub so you had some control over he developer?  Free things are better arnt they?

    Remember, these are the same people with 200+ hours invested... but of course its not like it cost them money to play those hours lol.

    I swear, its so funny to see people get exactly what they ask for then complain about it.

    No one asked for a gear grind so I think you're seeing things.

    ANet said they'd do one thing then did the opposite. Whether the game is free (which it isn't, we paid money for it and the service is included in the box price) or not isn't important. They lied, that's all there is to it.

    The fact they don't even have the decency to apologise for wasting everyone's money is what's frustrating everyone.

    Dont include me in your "everyone" I have no problem with what they are doing. /Cheers.

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,980Member Uncommon

    Well you had to know they were going to tire of the nonsense eventually.  Threads only real purpose to was to let the natives vent their frustration, not much productive was going to come out of it.

    Gameplay is changing?  Too bad, I'm sure somewhere in the TOS they've reserved the right to change the gameplay experience without notice.

    Don't like it, don't buy another product from them, really all you can do because they already got your money this time around.

     

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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