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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan EastPosts: 2,630Member

    This:

    Originally posted by botrytis
     

    People who say, 'I uninstalled and there are people that have left' are just wanting to have validation for their decision.

    Obviously.

    And the people who say "I uninstalled" but still post here almost daily weeks after having said that... are even worse.

    If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my block list - so don't waste your time.

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  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    This:

    Originally posted by botrytis
     

    People who say, 'I uninstalled and there are people that have left' are just wanting to have validation for their decision.

    Obviously.

    And the people who say "I uninstalled" but still post here almost daily weeks after having said that... are even worse.

    How about the people like me who have not uninstalled, but are just waiting for a reason or motivation to log back on ...

     

    I check these GW2 forums for a compelling reason ...

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  • IPolygonIPolygon ViennaPosts: 707Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    This: Originally posted by botrytis
      People who say, 'I uninstalled and there are people that have left' are just wanting to have validation for their decision.

    Obviously.

    And the people who say "I uninstalled" but still post here almost daily weeks after having said that... are even worse.

     

    Or how about people that have/had a lot of respect for ANet and enjoyed the game so much, they never wanted to be forced to leave the game. I know the analogy stinks, but that would be like having a really good time with your gf or bf and after a couple of weeks the other one is doing something you don't like at all for no apparent reason. You want to revert to the old blissful state, try to talk to her/him, try to convince not to that (whatever it is) and are then sad that all your talk had no effect at all.

    People are getting loud because they care so much about this game and don't want it to change so much. Calling it whining would not do it any justice, calling it complaining would. Complaining is one way to show you don't like something and want to change it for the better. The other way is probably more effective and called speak with your wallet. People don't always want to do the last immediately and hope for a change by complaining. Don't disregard people with valid reasons.
  • TwoThreeFourTwoThreeFour Virginia, VAPosts: 2,131Member
    Server status indicates that Guild Wars 2 still has a very healthy population despite being out for quite some time. I have no worries whatsoever. However, then again, the tinfoil hat army may suggest that the server status indicators are being manipulated, but that just makes me laugh :D.
  • jpnzjpnz SydneyPosts: 3,529Member
    Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
    Server status indicates that Guild Wars 2 still has a very healthy population despite being out for quite some time. I have no worries whatsoever. However, then again, the tinfoil hat army may suggest that the server status indicators are being manipulated, but that just makes me laugh :D.

    I'd agree that there are lots of people playing but it seems to be concentrated in the starting area and Orr.

    Not much in-between which is making the leveling up process really painful. :(

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  • NaralNaral Solway, MNPosts: 751Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
    Server status indicates that Guild Wars 2 still has a very healthy population despite being out for quite some time. I have no worries whatsoever. However, then again, the tinfoil hat army may suggest that the server status indicators are being manipulated, but that just makes me laugh :D.

    I'd agree that there are lots of people playing but it seems to be concentrated in the starting area and Orr.

    Not much in-between which is making the leveling up process really painful. :(

    Yep. Agree 100%. My wife and I are level 68 right now, in the Maerlstrom. We played for three hours last not and did not see a single player, not one. And we are on the Tarnished Coast, which is a very crowded server.

    This is not the first night, nor the first zone this has happened to us either.

    Lion's Arch is full of 80s. I am sure Orr is packed too, so where is everyone? I guess those folks who are supposed to want to level down and play through lower level content are not taking the bait, they are grinding in Orr or doing WvWvW. Made doing DEs in Maelstorm sort of difficult, and really kinda depressing. Even though I know it is not a dead game, it sure felt like it.

  • mikecacklemikecackle City, ILPosts: 151Member
    Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
    Server status indicates that Guild Wars 2 still has a very healthy population despite being out for quite some time. I have no worries whatsoever. However, then again, the tinfoil hat army may suggest that the server status indicators are being manipulated, but that just makes me laugh :D.

    That's funny, i heard fanboys in chat stating all night how the overflow server is down to one, indicating the game is dropping players massively.

  • mikecacklemikecackle City, ILPosts: 151Member
    Originally posted by Naral
    Originally posted by jpnz
    Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
    Server status indicates that Guild Wars 2 still has a very healthy population despite being out for quite some time. I have no worries whatsoever. However, then again, the tinfoil hat army may suggest that the server status indicators are being manipulated, but that just makes me laugh :D.

    I'd agree that there are lots of people playing but it seems to be concentrated in the starting area and Orr.

    Not much in-between which is making the leveling up process really painful. :(

    Yep. Agree 100%. My wife and I are level 68 right now, in the Maerlstrom. We played for three hours last not and did not see a single player, not one. And we are on the Tarnished Coast, which is a very crowded server.

    This is not the first night, nor the first zone this has happened to us either.

    Lion's Arch is full of 80s. I am sure Orr is packed too, so where is everyone? I guess those folks who are supposed to want to level down and play through lower level content are not taking the bait, they are grinding in Orr or doing WvWvW. Made doing DEs in Maelstorm sort of difficult, and really kinda depressing. Even though I know it is not a dead game, it sure felt like it.

    Yup, I was struggling to find content at my level 40's.. I found one of those orange quest rings in my 40's area everything else i had done... So im like okay lets do it.. but no one was around... It was kill this boss mob.. which was 5 levels lower than me and 3 hit me to death....  Great concept... to level you have to do these public quests, but there is no public about....... cuz there is no point to questing in this game... horribad concept..

     

    Not sure what people are finding in this game and how its so great.. i serious ask them why, they can only respond with trolling words back.. "you mad bro" "leave already" "you're doing it wrong"

    Just looking for an answer.. I am a game analyst after all lol Doing it wrong, am i suppose to boot up 2 more bots behind me?

     

     

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,215Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mikecackle
    Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
    Server status indicates that Guild Wars 2 still has a very healthy population despite being out for quite some time. I have no worries whatsoever. However, then again, the tinfoil hat army may suggest that the server status indicators are being manipulated, but that just makes me laugh :D.

    That's funny, i heard fanboys in chat stating all night how the overflow server is down to one, indicating the game is dropping players massively.

     Umm no. That indicates people are playing less hours per week. It's expected. Now if you want to posit the content locusts have moved on as they always do you would be right.

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  • dinamsdinams Muriae, VAPosts: 1,362Member

    tl:dr

     

    "I dislike the game so it must be failing/fails"

    "It has potential"
    -Second most used phrase on existence
    "It sucks"
    -Most used phrase on existence

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    I'm off to planetside. I liked gw2 but the gold cost of WvW, being forced to pve to pay for pvp and the recent caving in on gear to the "raid" crowd is driving me to a pure pvp game.
  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member
    Originally posted by Naral
    Originally posted by jpnz

    I'd agree that there are lots of people playing but it seems to be concentrated in the starting area and Orr.

    Not much in-between which is making the leveling up process really painful. :(

    Yep. Agree 100%. My wife and I are level 68 right now, in the Maerlstrom. We played for three hours last not and did not see a single player, not one. And we are on the Tarnished Coast, which is a very crowded server.

    This is not the first night, nor the first zone this has happened to us either.

    Lion's Arch is full of 80s. I am sure Orr is packed too, so where is everyone? I guess those folks who are supposed to want to level down and play through lower level content are not taking the bait, they are grinding in Orr or doing WvWvW. Made doing DEs in Maelstorm sort of difficult, and really kinda depressing. Even though I know it is not a dead game, it sure felt like it.

    This is THE major problem with most if not all themepark games, and even many "sandboxes" (and yes I use the quotes specifically).

    Due to the RPG nature of the MMORPG, outleveling/out-skilling/out-usefullness of content is a given.

    Only in a true MMO that makes the RPG part actually mean "Role Playing Game" rather than "stat pRogression Pseuo-Game" will you see a game in which all areas of the game are relevant to all players.

    The down-leveling of toons in GW2 would be wonderful.. if there were anything to do in lower level zones/areas after you 100% them.

    Don't need lower level crafting mats - don't need lower level mob resources (drops) - don't need lower level DE chains - etc. etc.

  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    Originally posted by Naral
    Originally posted by jpnz

    I'd agree that there are lots of people playing but it seems to be concentrated in the starting area and Orr.

    Not much in-between which is making the leveling up process really painful. :(

    Yep. Agree 100%. My wife and I are level 68 right now, in the Maerlstrom. We played for three hours last not and did not see a single player, not one. And we are on the Tarnished Coast, which is a very crowded server.

    This is not the first night, nor the first zone this has happened to us either.

    Lion's Arch is full of 80s. I am sure Orr is packed too, so where is everyone? I guess those folks who are supposed to want to level down and play through lower level content are not taking the bait, they are grinding in Orr or doing WvWvW. Made doing DEs in Maelstorm sort of difficult, and really kinda depressing. Even though I know it is not a dead game, it sure felt like it.

    This is THE major problem with most if not all themepark games, and even many "sandboxes" (and yes I use the quotes specifically).

    Due to the RPG nature of the MMORPG, outleveling/out-skilling/out-usefullness of content is a given.

    Only in a true MMO that makes the RPG part actually mean "Role Playing Game" rather than "stat pRogression Pseuo-Game" will you see a game in which all areas of the game are relevant to all players.

    The down-leveling of toons in GW2 would be wonderful.. if there were anything to do in lower level zones/areas after you 100% them.

    Don't need lower level crafting mats - don't need lower level mob resources (drops) - don't need lower level DE chains - etc. etc.

    In that Case, BS, there ARE no true MMORPG's out there any more besides EVE (based on what you posted). That is fine by me. I played EVE for a bit and found it boring and unforgiving (I mean to noob players). A little give should be there to help the players get through at the beginning.

     

    People always talk about 'permadeath'. I do wish they would have put the DP system from GW1 in GW2 - I makes it more in your face that you have died by less your less damage and HP.

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  • VhalnVhaln Chicago, ILPosts: 3,159Member

    What I don't get, is how so many people saw this issue coming, as soon as we heard how DE's would work, long before the game released - but ANet didn't?  I remember discussing it, and saying something along the lines of how ANet seems to know what they're doing, and must have some sort of solution in place.  

     

    Now, the game appears to be dying so soon, because of exactly this.  I don't know how they're really doing population-wise.  I don't know how many people come back and throw money at them during events, or how many people are hidden away in instances most of the time.  Technically, they might be doing just fine, so far.  Maybe even exceptionally well.

     

    I just know that when I play, most of the time, on Henge of Denravi, the open world appears empty now, all the way up to Orr.  Every zone, from beginning to end, and I don't know how anyone can keep ignoring that.  Even if it isn't because the game is dying, it will certainly send it in that direction, as far as any hope of new players goes.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • hikaru77hikaru77 buenos airesPosts: 1,035Member Uncommon
    PS2 coming today. Thats a real PvP Game. So pretty much you´ll will see a mass exodus today from some of the biggest PvP guilds on gw2. 
  • mayito7777mayito7777 Saint Cloud, FLPosts: 636Member Uncommon
    On my guild you can only find 5  guys per night, never more than that and there are several players who have not logged in weeks.

    want 7 free days of playing? Try this

    http://www.swtor.com/r/ZptVnY

  • greenreengreenreen Punchoo, AKPosts: 2,101Member Uncommon

    Something else to note for population is that we just got invites to let people try the game.

    On my word, I sent two people in with free trials (with the option of sending in 3 total). Then, of course, I come off like a poodunk face since they changed to this ascended gear stuff but I didn't know that before I sent out those invites so I  have since apologized to the people.

    People from the free trial may stay or go but they were certainly screwing with the population numbers while there.

    Were the two timed that way to get us to send out invites before we found out? You can make up your own mind on that one of course now that I saw shady in their eyes I expect that shady was intended for that marketing ploy.

     

    Would you mind telling 3 friends about the game so that when you leave we might have some replacements and can call this all a player rousing success? If they purchase the game we can claim that it was because of ascended gear, we would greatly appreciate this to offer to our superiors as metrics in the next meeting.

    ~ Thanks Citizen of Tyria.

     

     

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Two people from my guild haven't logged on in a while, so ya the whole world has given up and mass exodus has begun.......

    btw I saw two dead cockroaches the other day so they are definately going extinct.

    If you saw two dead cockroaches the other day I would say call the exterminator and clean up after yourself LOL.

    Two people in YOUR guild that doesn't play doesn't mean you have the ONLY Guild in GW2, apart that alot of people are no longer playing , and acounting from tons and tons of guilds , even on this site, that members are saying that hardly anyone is on anymore does kinda push the " Exodus" theory to liable, while thats good that there's only two people in your entire guild that no longer plays means that some people will find even the most boring games fun ! Just joking!

    So you are saying that my two people account does not prove a mass exodus but your "tons and tons" and "alot" account does push the "mass exodus" theory to liable?? right....

    These are views of former players and if you can't take that then why post? Hell if the theory of a max exodus does not exists , why are you here posting instead of playing?

    Maybe you need to get off of your high horse and except that many people don't have your similar views , or mine for that matter.

    Almost all the GW2 posts here, you have made it clear that you are a steadfast defender of the game ( which is a nicer way of saying " Fanboi"), while I applaud you , alot of people think other wise, no need to bash people based on their views, this is what they are seeing and I agree with them, and the reason behind the " Exodus" ? Because it's the same old same old tried and true mmorpg formula that was just copy and pasted so many times, does it make the game bad? No , but it lacks staying power, and with the dynamic events, hell Rift does a better job. Yet again, these are MY opinions and views, but if you feel the further need to bash or mock me again, go right ahead, because I'll just shoot back again with " My views , my opinions ".

    Im not saying the game might not be going through "mass exodus", what Im saying is that people should have more concrete facts/evidence instead of "all my friends stopped playing" and "Ive seen a lot of people say they quit". It reminds me of news media, they sensationalize everything with no substance to back it up.

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  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    PS2 coming today. Thats a real PvP Game. So pretty much you´ll will see a mass exodus today from some of the biggest PvP guilds on gw2. 

    Really? i am not so sure. PS2 is m ore like a console game and people get bored of those fairly quickly. In my guild - we are split PvP and PvE - most of those people will play both. Many played the PS2 beta and where bored silly.

     

    Again, we shall see.

     

    People are doing to GW2, what people have done with WoW - 'This game will be it's demise! Just wait and see.' And, it never happens.....

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  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    PS2 coming today. Thats a real PvP Game. So pretty much you´ll will see a mass exodus today from some of the biggest PvP guilds on gw2. 

    PS2 is a great pvp game, but its a very different one as well. If its FPS pvp crowd we are talking about they probably already moved to the new COD, if its the massive pvp crowd many will go try PS2 out.  Still its an fps and many still want massive rpg battles. The good thing is they don't need to pay subs for any of those games!! image

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,602Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Two people from my guild haven't logged on in a while, so ya the whole world has given up and mass exodus has begun.......

    btw I saw two dead cockroaches the other day so they are definately going extinct.

    If you saw two dead cockroaches the other day I would say call the exterminator and clean up after yourself LOL.

    Two people in YOUR guild that doesn't play doesn't mean you have the ONLY Guild in GW2, apart that alot of people are no longer playing , and acounting from tons and tons of guilds , even on this site, that members are saying that hardly anyone is on anymore does kinda push the " Exodus" theory to liable, while thats good that there's only two people in your entire guild that no longer plays means that some people will find even the most boring games fun ! Just joking!

    So you are saying that my two people account does not prove a mass exodus but your "tons and tons" and "alot" account does push the "mass exodus" theory to liable?? right....

    These are views of former players and if you can't take that then why post? Hell if the theory of a max exodus does not exists , why are you here posting instead of playing?

    Maybe you need to get off of your high horse and except that many people don't have your similar views , or mine for that matter.

    Almost all the GW2 posts here, you have made it clear that you are a steadfast defender of the game ( which is a nicer way of saying " Fanboi"), while I applaud you , alot of people think other wise, no need to bash people based on their views, this is what they are seeing and I agree with them, and the reason behind the " Exodus" ? Because it's the same old same old tried and true mmorpg formula that was just copy and pasted so many times, does it make the game bad? No , but it lacks staying power, and with the dynamic events, hell Rift does a better job. Yet again, these are MY opinions and views, but if you feel the further need to bash or mock me again, go right ahead, because I'll just shoot back again with " My views , my opinions ".

    Im not saying the game might not be going through "mass exodus", what Im saying is that people should have more concrete facts/evidence instead of "all my friends stopped playing" and "Ive seen a lot of people say they quit". It reminds me of news media, they sensationalize everything with no substance to back it up.

    What is it you need to see? What other method does a player require than to log in and see no one on his friends and guild lists to determine that no one he knows plays anymore? What more "substance" does one require than to log in and find oneself alone?

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Two people from my guild haven't logged on in a while, so ya the whole world has given up and mass exodus has begun.......

    btw I saw two dead cockroaches the other day so they are definately going extinct.

    If you saw two dead cockroaches the other day I would say call the exterminator and clean up after yourself LOL.

    Two people in YOUR guild that doesn't play doesn't mean you have the ONLY Guild in GW2, apart that alot of people are no longer playing , and acounting from tons and tons of guilds , even on this site, that members are saying that hardly anyone is on anymore does kinda push the " Exodus" theory to liable, while thats good that there's only two people in your entire guild that no longer plays means that some people will find even the most boring games fun ! Just joking!

    So you are saying that my two people account does not prove a mass exodus but your "tons and tons" and "alot" account does push the "mass exodus" theory to liable?? right....

    These are views of former players and if you can't take that then why post? Hell if the theory of a max exodus does not exists , why are you here posting instead of playing?

    Maybe you need to get off of your high horse and except that many people don't have your similar views , or mine for that matter.

    Almost all the GW2 posts here, you have made it clear that you are a steadfast defender of the game ( which is a nicer way of saying " Fanboi"), while I applaud you , alot of people think other wise, no need to bash people based on their views, this is what they are seeing and I agree with them, and the reason behind the " Exodus" ? Because it's the same old same old tried and true mmorpg formula that was just copy and pasted so many times, does it make the game bad? No , but it lacks staying power, and with the dynamic events, hell Rift does a better job. Yet again, these are MY opinions and views, but if you feel the further need to bash or mock me again, go right ahead, because I'll just shoot back again with " My views , my opinions ".

    Im not saying the game might not be going through "mass exodus", what Im saying is that people should have more concrete facts/evidence instead of "all my friends stopped playing" and "Ive seen a lot of people say they quit". It reminds me of news media, they sensationalize everything with no substance to back it up.

    What is it you need to see? What other method does a player require than to log in and see no one on his friends and guild lists to determine that no one he knows plays anymore? What more "substance" does one require than to log in and find oneself alone?

    There is a big difference from "no one I know plays anymore" and "there is a mass exodus". Its a matter of generalizing personal experiences which is essentially wrong.

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,602Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Aeolron
    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Two people from my guild haven't logged on in a while, so ya the whole world has given up and mass exodus has begun.......

    btw I saw two dead cockroaches the other day so they are definately going extinct.

    If you saw two dead cockroaches the other day I would say call the exterminator and clean up after yourself LOL.

    Two people in YOUR guild that doesn't play doesn't mean you have the ONLY Guild in GW2, apart that alot of people are no longer playing , and acounting from tons and tons of guilds , even on this site, that members are saying that hardly anyone is on anymore does kinda push the " Exodus" theory to liable, while thats good that there's only two people in your entire guild that no longer plays means that some people will find even the most boring games fun ! Just joking!

    So you are saying that my two people account does not prove a mass exodus but your "tons and tons" and "alot" account does push the "mass exodus" theory to liable?? right....

    These are views of former players and if you can't take that then why post? Hell if the theory of a max exodus does not exists , why are you here posting instead of playing?

    Maybe you need to get off of your high horse and except that many people don't have your similar views , or mine for that matter.

    Almost all the GW2 posts here, you have made it clear that you are a steadfast defender of the game ( which is a nicer way of saying " Fanboi"), while I applaud you , alot of people think other wise, no need to bash people based on their views, this is what they are seeing and I agree with them, and the reason behind the " Exodus" ? Because it's the same old same old tried and true mmorpg formula that was just copy and pasted so many times, does it make the game bad? No , but it lacks staying power, and with the dynamic events, hell Rift does a better job. Yet again, these are MY opinions and views, but if you feel the further need to bash or mock me again, go right ahead, because I'll just shoot back again with " My views , my opinions ".

    Im not saying the game might not be going through "mass exodus", what Im saying is that people should have more concrete facts/evidence instead of "all my friends stopped playing" and "Ive seen a lot of people say they quit". It reminds me of news media, they sensationalize everything with no substance to back it up.

    What is it you need to see? What other method does a player require than to log in and see no one on his friends and guild lists to determine that no one he knows plays anymore? What more "substance" does one require than to log in and find oneself alone?

    There is a big difference from "no one I know plays anymore" and "there is a mass exodus". Its a matter of generalizing personal experiences which is essentially wrong.

    Sorry, misunderstood. And yeah, I agree, it's tough to justify that particular term.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Planetside2 does "WvW" better than gw2

    Why?
    1 more of it
    2 real rivalry, you see player names, there are 3 different factions, you're not facing random red dude from that server you want play again for months.
    3 you're not forced to pve so you can pay for your pvp.
    4 truly persistent

    Lol at "its a console game" comments.
  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    Planetside2 does "WvW" better than gw2

    Why?
    1 more of it
    2 real rivalry, you see player names, there are 3 different factions, you're not facing random red dude from that server you want play again for months.
    3 you're not forced to pve so you can pay for your pvp.
    4 truly persistent

    Lol at "its a console game" comments.

    It is an FPS style game - you forgot and that is what many console games are.

     

    if you like it great. But, let us give it a a week or 2 and I bet the hangman's noose will be out for this game too. It is all the new rage!!!

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