bioware-- first company to charge for your skill bars in your ui.

MeGaTronPower · November 2012

Bioware the first f2p company to charge you for your skill bars in your ui, i think they might as well charge you everytiem you try to login and customize your new character too while they are at it.

OOOO yea how about those slide bars that you customize your character with , heyyyy they might want to charge for those slide bars too.

Karteli · November 2012

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower
Bioware the first f2p company to charge you for your skill bars in your ui, i think they might as well charge you everytiem you try to login and customize your new character too while they are at it.

OOOO yea how about those slide bars that you customize your character with , heyyyy they might want to charge for those slide bars too.

BioWare ceased to exist in 2007, when EA bought them. The BioWare doctors who ran their company already resigned. It's all EA baby.

If you have gripes, focus your pain and suffering on EA :P

LIOKI · November 2012

I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

xeniar · November 2012

Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

Its all salvaging keep making money while you can. when profit draws closer to 0 they will pull the plug at that point.

aRtFuLThinG · November 2012

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower
Bioware the first f2p company to charge you for your skill bars in your ui

And they will probably be the last.

There is a difference between microtransactions and pure exploitism.

ForumPvP · November 2012

EA thinks that skill bars are best part of their game.

well they might be right.

GolbezTheLion · November 2012

EA, not Bioware. Bioware is dead.

MMOGamer71 · November 2012

Innovation right there.

GoldenArrow · November 2012

And people are prancing around screaming how P2P is dead.

Watch out what you are wishing for.

Zzad · November 2012

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower
Bioware the first f2p company to charge you for your skill bars in your ui

Sad but true....

I can´t believe what Bioware has turned into

Sad days...

Nitth · November 2012

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower
Bioware the first f2p company to charge you for your skill bars in your ui, i think they might as well charge you everytiem you try to login and customize your new character too while they are at it. OOOO yea how about those slide bars that you customize your character with , heyyyy they might want to charge for those slide bars too.

Bioware was true to their word! revolutionizing the industry!

FromHell · November 2012

Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

GeezerGamer · November 2012

Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

FromHell · November 2012

Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

asmkm22 · November 2012

Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

The problem is that cash shop games peak out on revenue pretty quickly, before tapering off to very little. Bioware EA has a long while to go before they finish paying for the cost to make, license, and market the game. Even after they do get to that point, they're still giving a hefty percentage in royalties to Lucas Arts. In short, there will be very little milk from this cow.

GeezerGamer · November 2012

Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

I am not speaking about Funcom's ability to create games. AO was one of my favorite old school MMOs. Until the company learned they could unreasonably monitize it's existing loyal playerbase to make up for the lost revenue from not keeping the game updated and creating new content.

Karteli · November 2012

Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

Isn't one of Funcom's buyers EA? (since their troubles)

Funcom dug their own grave. Having SWTOR in the hands of another EA lacky wouldn't help much for SW fans.

If SOE had SWTOR, that would almost certainly be better than the current situation. SOE knew about their screwups. EA doesn't know about SW screwups, so they are below SOE.

FromHell · November 2012

Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

Isn't one of Funcom's buyers EA? (since their troubles)

Funcom dug their own grave. Having SWTOR in the hands of another EA lacky wouldn't help much for SW fans.

If SOE had SWTOR, that would almost certainly be better than the current situation. SOE knew about their screwups. EA doesn't know about SW screwups, so they are below SOE.

Funcom is completely independent, they only used EA as a freakin' disc publisher and for logistics, they are not in the EA grave like Bioware.

Anyway either SOE or FC could have done an incredibly better product than Bioware slapped in our faces with TOR

Karteli · November 2012

Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

Isn't one of Funcom's buyers EA? (since their troubles)

Funcom dug their own grave. Having SWTOR in the hands of another EA lacky wouldn't help much for SW fans.

If SOE had SWTOR, that would almost certainly be better than the current situation. SOE knew about their screwups. EA doesn't know about SW screwups, so they are below SOE.

Funcom is completely independent, they only used EA as a freakin' disc publisher and for logisitcs, they are not in the EA grave like Bioware.

Anyway either SOE or FC could have done an incredibly better product than Bioware slapped in our faces with TOR

Funcom got into bed with EA. They are no longer independant.

Funcom is going bankrupt (numbers, man, numbers).

Rumors abound of interest by EA to acquire Funcom (hit em while they are low).

The Secret World might charge for Action Bars, one day. UI too. I don't see that as good. To the OP's post, SWTOR's Freemium might carry over to TSW.

You can keep saying that Funcom is independant, that's fine. They are hurting, and they are looking for a way out. TSW was not a successful MMORPG.

BioWare isn't independant, far from it. The doctors running the company sold it in 2007. Every action from early game release to early patch release was at the hands of EA. Share a bed with EA and you get a paycheck but you are done.

Ambros123 · November 2012

Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

Isn't one of Funcom's buyers EA? (since their troubles)

Funcom dug their own grave. Having SWTOR in the hands of another EA lacky wouldn't help much for SW fans.

If SOE had SWTOR, that would almost certainly be better than the current situation. SOE knew about their screwups. EA doesn't know about SW screwups, so they are below SOE.

Funcom is completely independent, they only used EA as a freakin' disc publisher and for logistics, they are not in the EA grave like Bioware.

Anyway either SOE or FC could have done an incredibly better product than Bioware slapped in our faces with TOR

Like how AoC was a pretty big flop? TSW is doing well mainly because its a new and different vibe that the traditional fantasy. EAWare made the mistake of making a WoW clone which pretty much equates to a misread of what the consumers wanted. SWTOR has a great story and really lover the whole party dialogue options but the limitations in the other aspects of the game sealed its fate. I find it doubtful that Funcom would have done much better, hence the Failcom stigmata. But really... EAWare is a single player RPG company with bout zero experience in the MMO world or what experience they acquired wasn't sufficient. Thats like having some fancy dancy fasion model company that sells shoes for $1,000s of dollars all of a sudden make practical outdoor hiking shoes.... thats just a recepie of disaster.

Karteli · November 2012

Originally posted by Ambros123
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

Isn't one of Funcom's buyers EA? (since their troubles)

Funcom dug their own grave. Having SWTOR in the hands of another EA lacky wouldn't help much for SW fans.

If SOE had SWTOR, that would almost certainly be better than the current situation. SOE knew about their screwups. EA doesn't know about SW screwups, so they are below SOE.

Funcom is completely independent, they only used EA as a freakin' disc publisher and for logistics, they are not in the EA grave like Bioware.

Anyway either SOE or FC could have done an incredibly better product than Bioware slapped in our faces with TOR

Like how AoC was a pretty big flop? TSW is doing well mainly because its a new and different vibe that the traditional fantasy. EAWare made the mistake of making a WoW clone which pretty much equates to a misread of what the consumers wanted. SWTOR has a great story and really lover the whole party dialogue options but the limitations in the other aspects of the game sealed its fate. I find it doubtful that Funcom would have done much better, hence the Failcom stigmata. But really... EAWare is a single player RPG company with bout zero experience in the MMO world or what experience they acquired wasn't sufficient. Thats like having some fancy dancy fasion model company that sells shoes for $1,000s of dollars all of a sudden make practical outdoor hiking shoes.... thats just a recepie of disaster.

We shall see. If you get too involved with what TSW offered, then you lose sight of what's going on behind you back.

We shall see. lulz.

Germaximus_S · November 2012

I will be truly surprised if the limit on hotbars stays. That alone will stop people from playing, not make them want to buy another bar.

Karteli · November 2012

Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by LIOKI
I find it amusing that failware still thinks they even have a game in swtor.

oh, there are already people planning to spend 200 bucks and more on craptastic virtual items from the cartel store.

Now with the remaining hardcore player base, the milking is ready to begin

They must have brought on former Funcom staff members as consultants.

Funcom could have done a hundred times better job on the whole game, they should have given the Star Wars IP to them

Isn't one of Funcom's buyers EA? (since their troubles)

Funcom dug their own grave. Having SWTOR in the hands of another EA lacky wouldn't help much for SW fans.

If SOE had SWTOR, that would almost certainly be better than the current situation. SOE knew about their screwups. EA doesn't know about SW screwups, so they are below SOE.

Funcom is completely independent, they only used EA as a freakin' disc publisher and for logisitcs, they are not in the EA grave like Bioware.

Anyway either SOE or FC could have done an incredibly better product than Bioware slapped in our faces with TOR

Funcom got into bed with EA. They are no longer independant.

Funcom is going bankrupt (numbers, man, numbers).

Rumors abound of interest by EA to acquire Funcom (hit em while they are low).

The Secret World might charge for Action Bars, one day. UI too. I don't see that as good. To the OP's post, SWTOR's Freemium might carry over to TSW.

You can keep saying that Funcom is independant, that's fine. They are hurting, and they are looking for a way out. TSW was not a successful MMORPG.

BioWare isn't independant, far from it. The doctors running the company sold it in 2007. Every action from early game release to early patch release was at the hands of EA. Share a bed with EA and you get a paycheck but you are done.

Just throwing this in for posterity, so the thread can have a full quote .. not one cut and pasted.

soximus · November 2012

Originally posted by asmkm22
they're still giving a hefty percentage in royalties to Lucas Arts.

Of course you mean Disney Right... Seeing as they bought out Lucas Arts and all Said Companies IP's etc.

FrodoFragins · November 2012

It's crap. I was planning on returning but I have a lvl 50 Sith Assasin and a lvl 35 Bounty hunter. I'd already lose the action bars for my alt and can't imagine playing him gimped like that. I'm going to try and hold out a while to see if they come to their senses on the action bars. I'd consider paying for the extra character slots per server, but not action bars.

Destai · November 2012

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower
Bioware the first f2p company to charge you for your skill bars in your ui, i think they might as well charge you everytiem you try to login and customize your new character too while they are at it.

OOOO yea how about those slide bars that you customize your character with , heyyyy they might want to charge for those slide bars too.

I think it's imperative we let this one sink. The nickel and diming has to stop and a big game needs to fall on its behind - a message needs to be sent.

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