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  • mymmomymmo StockholmPosts: 300Member
    Originally posted by NBlitz
    Originally posted by mymmo

    bad ass trailer, but havent we seen this in another game latlely? 

    Dragon that destorys the world...

    Any way, is there a video of the last minutes of the gameplay? 

    I don't know about other "games lately" but Bahamut specfically has been a staple character in the Final Fantasy franchise dating back to the very first FF if I'm not mistaken. It has always been one of the most powerful beings in certain installments.

    In XIV Bahamut seems to be one of the Primals. "Primals are powerful denziens that exist in another plane. They require a vast amount of energy in order to trancend into our world."

    I found it very fitting Bahamut was used as a sort of God of destruction in XIV.

    I know there are others like OnionThief in here who are buffs in FF lore, so please correct anything I may have said.

    I do understand your point, and you are correct that Bahamut is a thing that is a staple character in the FF franchise. But you have to understand it from my and others view point as well. It dosent matter if they are naming a thing differently,  when it has the same shape, acts the same way and are causing the same issues (destorys the world). The video of the bahamuth/dragon is such a bad move mainly because another franchise did the exacet same thing a couple of months ago and for me it creats just a big yawn (its a good animated sequence, dont get me wrong.). Its the anti thesis of fantasy when developers are copy/pasting stuff. 

    They could have done this so much better. 

     

     

    Originally posted by OnionThief
    Originally posted by NBlitz
    Originally posted by mymmo

    bad ass trailer, but havent we seen this in another game latlely? 

    Dragon that destorys the world...

    Any way, is there a video of the last minutes of the gameplay? 

    I don't know about other "games lately" but Bahamut specfically has been a staple character in the Final Fantasy franchise dating back to the very first FF if I'm not mistaken. It has always been one of the most powerful beings in certain installments.

    In XIV Bahamut seems to be one of the Primals. "Primals are powerful denziens that exist in another plane. They require a vast amount of energy in order to trancend into our world."

    I found it very fitting Bahamut was used as a sort of God of destruction in XIV.

    I know there are others like OnionThief in here who are buffs in FF lore, so please correct anything I may have said.

    For starters, any implication that Bahamut is a ripoff of the elder dragons or that dragon from WoW just won't, forgive the pun again, fly with me. As was said, Bahamut is a staple of the series and has been seen throughout the games as laying waste to entire nations or being a harbinger of doom. The moderm progenitor of the dragon archetype that we see in games today, like Skyrim, should really be creditted to Tolkien and Smaug. And then there's the whole point that Bahamut is totally more bad ass. :P

    All signs point to the fact that Bahamut is some type of primal. How this ties in to the current XIV story precisely, including why the anti-god, anti-primal empire chose to summon him is a mystery. Currently it seems Bahamut will reprise a similar role, perhaps with added malice, to what he had in XI.  This ending created lots of questions for those really into the lore, so we just need to stay tuned and see how it plays out.

    What to say. Wow=dragon/beast/fantasy creature destorys the world with flames. FF XIV=Dragon/fair/beast/fantasy creature destorys the world with flames. If you cant see the similarities I can only try to  compair it with the movie industry. A couple of years ago there was a movie called Armagedeon, some may remember it. It was about a comet and Liv Tylor. During that time there was another flick called Deep impact, it didnt have Liv Tylor in it. Guess which one the viewer remember best :P....Damn, that was a bad comparing. The thing is that we have seen this already, just recently. And the mmo games are not exactly know to be so much differnt from each other so why not give us something differently, something that tickles the imagination. Dont give us lazers, big explosions and dragons for the 100th time.  Pleaes give us something else. Give us a freaking Kefka or a Zeroumus that will say *poof* when  it makes its entreance. 

    And it dosent matter that the Bahamut is a staple of the series. There is so much else to get from the "rich" lore of FF univerise. This was just lazy. The issue Ive is the time space between another serie useage of a big dragon and FF XIV usage.  And yeah, the Bahamut is much cooler :)

    And thanks for the summarize of what happend before the meteor :)

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  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,539Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DarknessReign

    All i can say is i almost lost it when Bahumut broke from his prision and decended to the world. Seeing Ul'Dah in closed in Fire made you feel the reality of it all. The people praying to the 12 faith without faith made me think of all the people who do not believe in a god or gods but to quote the song "In one fleeting moment" the events that happen drive the people to there knees because the end was at hand. The Chocobo on top of the hill with the Grand Company leaders when he lets out a chirp knowing his world is also at a end in that moment.  I have to give it to SE . I have not been moved by a CS in a game by SE or anyone for that matter in a long long time. Thank you SE for instilling back in me hope. 

    Well, that's not really how it happened. Y'shtola, Yda, Papalymo, Thancred and certainly Louisoix believe quite strongly in the Twelve and that's why you're asked to pray to each Diety in hopes of stirring them and bringing their assistance to bear, because the strength of mortals alone would not be enough, and they knew this.

    At the end, it still wasn't enough. Louisioux, however, "has the final say" of sorts by sending the heroes of Eorzea (us) to  - as he puts it in a previous mission cut-scene - "a new future" - so that we may survive the destruction and live to rebuild.

    The ones without faith were the Empire/Garleans. Their entire goal was to wipe all the religious from the world so they could take it over.

     

    I have to say, this was truly a stellar, stellar effort on SE's part. True, quality story-telling wrapped up in an incredible cut-scene. Beautiful work. This is the kind of inspiration I was hoping to find again in XIV, after being so moved by XI's opening movie. Took some time, but it looks like they have, hopefully, hit their stride and brought XIV into its own.

     

     

  • Snowdon_CloudripperSnowdon_Cloudripper Chickasha, OKPosts: 584Member
    still epic

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  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,539Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mymmo
     

    I do understand your point, and you are correct that Bahamut is a thing that is a staple character in the FF franchise. But you have to understand it from my and others view point as well. It dosent matter if they are naming a thing differently,  when it has the same shape, acts the same way and are causing the same issues (destorys the world). The video of the bahamuth/dragon is such a bad move mainly because another franchise did the exacet same thing a couple of months ago and for me it creats just a big yawn (its a good animated sequence, dont get me wrong.). Its the anti thesis of fantasy when developers are copy/pasting stuff. 

    They could have done this so much better. 

     

    Big, huge, glaring oversight in your assertions...

    Dalamud coming to Eorzea has been in motion for well over a year. It's been growing larger in the sky over the various patches (you can see the process here). SE has known since they decided the direction to take FFXIV in with Naoki Yoshida at the helm that Dalamud would be a prison for Bahamut. We're talking about around 1.5 years now since they provided the new direction and timeline for the game.

    You don't seriously think they conceived that idea, wrote, storyboarded, produced, edited and completed that entire cut-scene in just the last 2, or even 3 months, do you? Cinematics of that scope and scale take months to complete, and considering they've used short snippets from that cinematic in teaser trailers going back several months now, I'd say it's quite clear that, no, this wasn't some idea they decided to copy from ANet in the last couple months, or longer for that matter.

    In other words, SE didn't copy any game's theme. ANet or otherwise.

    As has been said, Bahamut in the FF series has often brought with him destruction and mayhem to whatever world the game takes place in. This is nothing new. It's practically canon for the FF series. It's particularly in-line with the role of primals in XIV, as other primals have already been introduced to the game, each of them seeking to inflict harm as well. If nothing else, they're being consistent.

    Look, it's quite clear you, and others who would view it the same as you, are trying to dismiss and undermine the brilliance of the video and what SE is doing. But you're seriously going to have to try a lot harder than that.

    And frankly, I wouldn't bother. No matter what you think you've got "figured out", or what you think you "know" they did or are doing... it's pure conjecture. Nothing more. It only "looks the same" and "acts the same" to you because your pre-determined conclusion requires it to.

  • WhitebeardsWhitebeards TokyoPosts: 778Member
    Originally posted by Ralstlin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqL3-n2-3J4&feature=g-all-u

     

    omfg...  Goodbye FFXIV 1.0... Welcome FFXIV: ARR

    Dragons are so over done that it has become a cliche.

    And once again people going omfg after watching cgi video. Just like how they did when FFXIV was about to release.

  • JorlJorl SunderlandPosts: 257Member

    I've only just found out about a Final Fantasy MMO. So I've decided to download the free trial, though I've been told not to expect much in XIV. 

    Sorry the other FF. I meant... meh so confusing these games.

  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAPosts: 18,462Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mymmo

    bad ass trailer, but havent we seen this in another game latlely? 

    Dragon that destorys the world...

    Any way, is there a video of the last minutes of the gameplay? 

    True, but remember, the idea of a dragon as a world destroyer or coming at the end of the world isn't a wow creation. There are several mythologies that incorporate similiar ideas.

    If anything, for any game that uses a dragon as such, it's just convenient.

  • EdeusEdeus Stamford, CTPosts: 506Member

    It does look really awesome for a trailer. 

     

    Did anyone else notice the Ifrit weapons were used by the Adventurer's?  I thought that was just so badass!

     

    Also I hope Uld'ah made it, it was my favorite city!  Spent hours and HOURS there.

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  • scotty899scotty899 townsvillePosts: 166Member
    theres some alpha gameplay on youtube if ppl are interested
  • QSatuQSatu WarsawPosts: 1,735Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Ralstlin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqL3-n2-3J4&feature=g-all-u

     

    omfg...  Goodbye FFXIV 1.0... Welcome FFXIV: ARR

    Dragons are so over done that it has become a cliche.

    And once again people going omfg after watching cgi video. Just like how they did when FFXIV was about to release.

    People always fall for the "preety trailer". They wouldn't spend milions on those things if they didn't work.

    But yea I rmemeber how 2 years ago everyone were hyped about trailer with the same party we see here fighting Malboro =P

  • xAPOCxxAPOCx Vineland, NJPosts: 869Member
    Originally posted by QSatu
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Ralstlin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqL3-n2-3J4&feature=g-all-u

     

    omfg...  Goodbye FFXIV 1.0... Welcome FFXIV: ARR

    Dragons are so over done that it has become a cliche.

    And once again people going omfg after watching cgi video. Just like how they did when FFXIV was about to release.

    People always fall for the "preety trailer". They wouldn't spend milions on those things if they didn't work.

    But yea I rmemeber how 2 years ago everyone were hyped about trailer with the same party we see here fighting Malboro =P

    Well its worked on me. that shit was hot!!!! Ill be buying it when it comes out.

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  • IkedaIkeda Largo, FLPosts: 2,205Member Uncommon
    Uhhh.... if we own FFXIV, do we need to repurchase?  Not much of a FFXIV fan (at all) but I'll be damned if that video didn't give me a tingle and a twinge of regret.  I remember MANY discussions about this with Tau back at launch.

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  • austriacusaustriacus limaPosts: 611Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ikeda
    Uhhh.... if we own FFXIV, do we need to repurchase?  Not much of a FFXIV fan (at all) but I'll be damned if that video didn't give me a tingle and a twinge of regret.  I remember MANY discussions about this with Tau back at launch.

     As far as i know you not only dont have to buy it, you even get 1 free month. So the only thing you gotta do is download the client

  • lqw6843128lqw6843128 burnaby, BCPosts: 39Member Uncommon
    The trailer is wow! but i will wait for more gameplay video
  • xAPOCxxAPOCx Vineland, NJPosts: 869Member
    Originally posted by lqw6843128
    The trailer is wow! but i will wait for more gameplay video


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwenut2xit8

     

    Here you go

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  • birdycephonbirdycephon Salt Lake City, UTPosts: 1,314Member
    I saw gunblades! I want a gunblade!
  • IneveraskforthisIneveraskforthis Macros 7Posts: 374Member
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Ralstlin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqL3-n2-3J4&feature=g-all-u

     

    omfg...  Goodbye FFXIV 1.0... Welcome FFXIV: ARR

    Dragons are so over done that it has become a cliche.

    And once again people going omfg after watching cgi video. Just like how they did when FFXIV was about to release.

    OMG a Final Fantasy trailer with Bahamuth, how crazy is that?

     

    /rolleyes

  • MadDemon64MadDemon64 Maplewood, NJPosts: 1,099Member Uncommon

    Ok, wow.

    I almost cried.

    Seriously, just wow.

    Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  • Snowdon_CloudripperSnowdon_Cloudripper Chickasha, OKPosts: 584Member
    And Odin trots to the rescue listen close after louisiox smiles. you hear him and Ifrit . That's why he smiled because he is also a god. think about it watch the video his staff has the mark of the scholar and projects it to seal Bahamut . He also has the hourglass marked on his neck , he reaches back to it and teleports us to the future.

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  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148 1, NJPosts: 6,690Member
    Such a wonderful trailer that was.
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  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Somewhere, NCPosts: 1,582Member Uncommon
    Why do people keep calling this a trailer? While this video does build hype for the future ARR release, it's far more accurately described as the closing cinematic for 1.0.

    <3

  • cybertruckercybertrucker Pensacola, FLPosts: 1,119Member

    Pretty Decent CGI trailer for a game. Not the best game trailer I have seen but overall pretty good. My one complaint would be the character (hero?) models.. they look pretty dumb. 

    Would it get me to check out the game? Hmm naa not really. Lets see some of the gameplay.. The last build didnt look that good to me. Thats one of the reasons I never tried it. Which apparently is a good thing. From what I have read though it looks like the new version will be alot like WOW with a more advanced graphics engine. Is that right?

    On a side note GW2 is awesome! And I am anxiously awaiting more info on EQnext.

  • mymmomymmo StockholmPosts: 300Member
    Originally posted by TangentPoint
    Originally posted by mymmo
     

    I do understand your point, and you are correct that Bahamut is a thing that is a staple character in the FF franchise. But you have to understand it from my and others view point as well. It dosent matter if they are naming a thing differently,  when it has the same shape, acts the same way and are causing the same issues (destorys the world). The video of the bahamuth/dragon is such a bad move mainly because another franchise did the exacet same thing a couple of months ago and for me it creats just a big yawn (its a good animated sequence, dont get me wrong.). Its the anti thesis of fantasy when developers are copy/pasting stuff. 

    They could have done this so much better. 

     

    Big, huge, glaring oversight in your assertions...

    Dalamud coming to Eorzea has been in motion for well over a year. It's been growing larger in the sky over the various patches (you can see the process here). SE has known since they decided the direction to take FFXIV in with Naoki Yoshida at the helm that Dalamud would be a prison for Bahamut. We're talking about around 1.5 years now since they provided the new direction and timeline for the game.

    You don't seriously think they conceived that idea, wrote, storyboarded, produced, edited and completed that entire cut-scene in just the last 2, or even 3 months, do you? Cinematics of that scope and scale take months to complete, and considering they've used short snippets from that cinematic in teaser trailers going back several months now, I'd say it's quite clear that, no, this wasn't some idea they decided to copy from ANet in the last couple months, or longer for that matter.

    In other words, SE didn't copy any game's theme. ANet or otherwise.

    As has been said, Bahamut in the FF series has often brought with him destruction and mayhem to whatever world the game takes place in. This is nothing new. It's practically canon for the FF series. It's particularly in-line with the role of primals in XIV, as other primals have already been introduced to the game, each of them seeking to inflict harm as well. If nothing else, they're being consistent.

    Look, it's quite clear you, and others who would view it the same as you, are trying to dismiss and undermine the brilliance of the video and what SE is doing. But you're seriously going to have to try a lot harder than that.

    And frankly, I wouldn't bother. No matter what you think you've got "figured out", or what you think you "know" they did or are doing... it's pure conjecture. Nothing more. It only "looks the same" and "acts the same" to you because your pre-determined conclusion requires it to.

    Holy molly. You are taking things personal. Take it easy. 

    And no. I have not figured something out. Its there, from my view point. Its there and I like to express what I see, that is why I am on a mmorpg forum d i s c u s s i n g my view point. The same thing as you are doning with your post. But Im doing it from a different stand point. 

    This "A realm reborn" video is a copy paste from word of warcraft:catalysm. Look for yourself

    And to be clear. I liked what I saw in this video. I do understand its importance for the ones that have played the game. Its a good handcraft that will mostly create a good setting for this re-start of the FFXIV. But I do also see the flaws. 

    And it dosent matter for me if it has been in pipeline for years. I see what I see. Its about similarities between games. And good for you that you do not seem them. 

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  • SkuallSkuall UnknowPosts: 1,288Member Uncommon

    bahamut was in the 1 final fantasy game (1987)

     

     

    Why bahamuth ? Because dragons destroying citys ,never get old :D , and bring back memorys from other FF (for example FFIX , alexandria destroyed by baha ? )

     

  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,539Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by mymmo
     

    Holy molly. You are taking things personal. Take it easy. 

    And no. I have not figured something out. Its there, from my view point. Its there and I like to express what I see, that is why I am on a mmorpg forum d i s c u s s i n g my view point. The same thing as you are doning with your post. But Im doing it from a different stand point. 

    This "A realm reborn" video is a copy paste from word of warcraft:catalysm. Look for yourself

    And to be clear. I liked what I saw in this video. I do understand its importance for the ones that have played the game. Its a good handcraft that will mostly create a good setting for this re-start of the FFXIV. But I do also see the flaws. 

    And it dosent matter for me if it has been in pipeline for years. I see what I see. Its about similarities between games. And good for you that you do not seem them. 

    First, I'm not taking it personally at all. You're simply wrong, and I'm pointing out why.

    Second, you are obviously not just d i s c u s s i n g anything. You're making an assertion. You're accusing SE of "copying and pasting" something from another game. People have come back explaining why that isn't so, and you've continued to argue it. Remarks like, "Its the anti thesis of fantasy when developers are copy/pasting stuff." is not discussion. It's not an open question. It's an accusation.

    Second, as for it "being a copy and paste of the Cataclysm video".

    Well...

    First that's complete hyperbole and you know it.

    Second, you're shifting goal posts now. You started off alluding to GW2 by talking about it being a copy of a game "that did the same exact thing a couple months ago". I pointed out how that would be chronologically and logistically impossible given the time-frame (among other reasons). So now, instead of conceding the point (as you should have), you conveniently change your argument  to make it about Cataclysm. Yes, I noticed. In fact, I expected you to do just that. And you didn't disappoint. Well done!

    You've already started wavering and waffling on your argument, which means your argument wasn't a strong one to begin with. What you are doing at this point is grasping at straws, because you won't let yourself accept that you were wrong. Your argument has already been disproved, you just won't accept it. Don't worry, it happens a lot around here. You're in good company.

    Second, I did watch that Cata video. Many times. I dug it. It even got me excited for Cataclysm back at the time. It's nothing like the FFXIV video. The only similarities are: Dragon and Stuff getting messed up. That's it. Everything else is different. The only "copying and pasting" taking place is in your imagination. The dragons are canon in both settings, and in the case of FFXIV, Bahamut has often been the bringer of destruction to the worlds he engages. It's kind of his thing. So, again, SE is not "copying and pasting" anything. They're being 100% consistent to their own lore and canon.

    I realize you're committed to this premise and so you have to find any little angle you think will work to try and "prove it". I fully expect you to continue shifting the goal-post and trying to find new points to argue. You're making connections where none exist, but for in your mind.

    Personally, I'd give it up and accept it's a similiarty (which can be found going much farther back than either game), but I don't think you will. I fully expect you'll be back, trying to find some other angle to argue instead.

     

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