Originally posted by altair4 Seems it's confirmed now that F2P players will get less XP. Also can't find any info that preferred status players would get any more or normal XP either. This means I will not give it any chance what so ever, I just removed the game from my hard drive.
Does it mean that F2P still level at the same pace as players did on release? Or does it mean that they actually get less XP than that and will need to grind levels later on?
That's all that matters to me. I don't care if subscribers get XP boosts, but I do care if F2P means you have to grind XP because they nerfed the XP per turnin or kill.
Originally posted by SlickShoes I was considering giving this one last go when it went free, but with nerfed XP for free players, no thanks.
Honestly, depending on how much XP has been nerfed this could end up being a good thing. :P It was WAY too easy to outlevel content in TOR, and this was especially true if you went for a varied experience along the way (quests, warzones, flashpoints, etc.).
That was not my experience. but as a Sith assasin I skipped a lot of mob packs so that contributed. there was also a mystery quest on the fleet that sent me back to a planet later on. I didn't see that quest until I was almost past the level to make it worth the return.
If XP is nerfed from the release version, there are definitely going to be issues. But they have since added that daily area which will help.
Originally posted by SlickShoes I was considering giving this one last go when it went free, but with nerfed XP for free players, no thanks.
Honestly, depending on how much XP has been nerfed this could end up being a good thing. :P It was WAY too easy to outlevel content in TOR, and this was especially true if you went for a varied experience along the way (quests, warzones, flashpoints, etc.).
That was not my experience. but as a Sith assasin I skipped a lot of mob packs so that contributed. there was also a mystery quest on the fleet that sent me back to a planet later on. I didn't see that quest until I was almost past the level to make it worth the return.
If XP is nerfed from the release version, there are definitely going to be issues. But they have since added that daily area which will help.
From Demon Sherbert- "Well, now BioWare is letting players have all that story content for free! That’s not to say there won’t be restrictions – Free-to-Play players will earn experience more slowly, for example, and several aspects of the gameplay experience are limited."
Originally posted by SlickShoes I was considering giving this one last go when it went free, but with nerfed XP for free players, no thanks.
Honestly, depending on how much XP has been nerfed this could end up being a good thing. :P It was WAY too easy to outlevel content in TOR, and this was especially true if you went for a varied experience along the way (quests, warzones, flashpoints, etc.).
That was not my experience. but as a Sith assasin I skipped a lot of mob packs so that contributed. there was also a mystery quest on the fleet that sent me back to a planet later on. I didn't see that quest until I was almost past the level to make it worth the return.
If XP is nerfed from the release version, there are definitely going to be issues. But they have since added that daily area which will help.
From Demon Sherbert- "Well, now BioWare is letting players have all that story content for free! That’s not to say there won’t be restrictions – Free-to-Play players will earn experience more slowly, for example, and several aspects of the gameplay experience are limited."
Well, I can think of one advantage of earning experience more slowly: less of a chance to out level content.
Originally posted by SlickShoes I was considering giving this one last go when it went free, but with nerfed XP for free players, no thanks.
Honestly, depending on how much XP has been nerfed this could end up being a good thing. :P It was WAY too easy to outlevel content in TOR, and this was especially true if you went for a varied experience along the way (quests, warzones, flashpoints, etc.).
That was not my experience. but as a Sith assasin I skipped a lot of mob packs so that contributed. there was also a mystery quest on the fleet that sent me back to a planet later on. I didn't see that quest until I was almost past the level to make it worth the return.
If XP is nerfed from the release version, there are definitely going to be issues. But they have since added that daily area which will help.
From Demon Sherbert- "Well, now BioWare is letting players have all that story content for free! That’s not to say there won’t be restrictions – Free-to-Play players will earn experience more slowly, for example, and several aspects of the gameplay experience are limited."
Well, I can think of one advantage of earning experience more slowly: less of a chance to out level content.
Well i had my time and for the past month have hardly even logged in, i still have about 1 month left after which i am 80% sure i will be dropping the game as i am bored already. If a game is boring after 4mths play then it is not going to improve is it.
I will now more than likely make a return to (cough) pokemon battles and panda's and see what that is like, after all i still have a gametime card left for it.
May also take a look at some other games - Kingdoms of Amalur-reckoning (£9 amazon), Skyrim (£20 amazon not sure though), x-com enemy unknown (£29) and an older game compilation trology (afterlight, afterlife and aftershock) at £2 but so far unsure if these will work on windows 7 64bit as 60% say no and 30% say yes and the remainder dont even say on reports i have looked at.
Originally posted by SlickShoes I was considering giving this one last go when it went free, but with nerfed XP for free players, no thanks.
Honestly, depending on how much XP has been nerfed this could end up being a good thing. :P It was WAY too easy to outlevel content in TOR, and this was especially true if you went for a varied experience along the way (quests, warzones, flashpoints, etc.).
That was not my experience. but as a Sith assasin I skipped a lot of mob packs so that contributed. there was also a mystery quest on the fleet that sent me back to a planet later on. I didn't see that quest until I was almost past the level to make it worth the return.
If XP is nerfed from the release version, there are definitely going to be issues. But they have since added that daily area which will help.
From Demon Sherbert- "Well, now BioWare is letting players have all that story content for free! That’s not to say there won’t be restrictions – Free-to-Play players will earn experience more slowly, for example, and several aspects of the gameplay experience are limited."
more slowly than ???
To make it simple, have they stated they are nerfing XP for F2P players? Because they 100% could just be giving XP buffs to non F2P.
Does it say anywhere that they are NERFING F2P XP from the current version? Or is it unclear? Because I haven't seen anything definitive.
The funny thing is that lots of SWTOR players were asking for ability to disable XP. It's way to easy to outlevel content in SWTOR, it seems that they took care about if for F2P, how about subscribers? Can we get potions to slow down XP? I would buy few!!!!
i think i would play if it wasnt 15$ a month ...a lower fee per month i would play like 5-10$..makeing it f2p i wouldnt play cuz it will prolly limmit you soooo much that you rly couldnt enjoy it..so yah..still not re-subbin or even going to play for free
Originally posted by Sevenstar61 Great. I want my HK-51 so badly!!!!!
I 2nd that so it can kill many meatbags!!!!
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Originally posted by Sevenstar61 The funny thing is that lots of SWTOR players were asking for ability to disable XP. It's way to easy to outlevel content in SWTOR, it seems that they took care about if for F2P, how about subscribers? Can we get potions to slow down XP? I would buy few!!!!
Slowing down XP would be nice to stay in the lv 1-49 PVP bracket longer. That bracket had faster queue times and far less premades (who ROFLSTOMP'ed everyone and turtled Huttball for more kills).
There is a problem there though, namely that PVP for Freemiums is limited to 5 matches per week. It can be unlocked for ~ $2.50 per week ($10 per month), which isn't really proportionate to the A la Carte that people were looking forward to, especially if doing PVP in conjunction with another weekly unlock game element.
I will definitelly get personal trainer. from Cartel Market. This is a cool thing.
1.23 Darth Malgus Holostatue
Looks like Darth Malgus found a new job after False Emperor.. he is now your personal class trainer! Submitted by Andilus. Cooldown is 1m, lasts 20 seconds, and useable by Imperial classes for the trainer function (Republic characters can still summon the statue, just can’t train with it).
1.24 Satele Shan Holostatue
Same function as Darth Malgus but only allow Republic characters to train. Submitted by McDan1el & Vesra
They really are pushing those gambling packs, which cost about $4 each. I wonder what the new subscriber expenditures will be .. was $15 a month ... now ... $30 a month? $50 a month? :-)
They really are pushing those gambling packs, which cost about $4 each. I wonder what the new subscriber expenditures will be .. was $15 a month ... now ... $30 a month? $50 a month? :-)
It optional:) so you don't have to ever click on this golden icon.
I am definitely going to get several gaming packs LOL, but I already have 2500 + 250 at launch CC earned. I also decided that I will add about $20 bucks in addition to sub monthly if stuff will be coming and I will like them. That's my way to support the game I love.
Additional change announced today for players who would like to subscribe:
All former subscribers who reactivate their subscription by the new date of December 20, 2012 at 11:59pm CST will be granted Complimentary Cartel Coins for their prior paid months up to November 15, 2012. For more information on all of the rewards you could potentially receive, visit www.StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com/FREE.
So you can get back F2P and if you decide that you like a game and want to sub, you will get your CC as long as you sub before 12/20/12
Additional change announced today for players who would like to subscribe:
All former subscribers who reactivate their subscription by the new date of December 20, 2012 at 11:59pm CST will be granted Complimentary Cartel Coins for their prior paid months up to November 15, 2012. For more information on all of the rewards you could potentially receive, visit www.StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com/FREE.
So you can get back F2P and if you decide that you like a game and want to sub, you will get your CC as long as you sub before 12/20/12
Additional change announced today for players who would like to subscribe:
All former subscribers who reactivate their subscription by the new date of December 20, 2012 at 11:59pm CST will be granted Complimentary Cartel Coins for their prior paid months up to November 15, 2012. For more information on all of the rewards you could potentially receive, visit www.StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com/FREE.
So you can get back F2P and if you decide that you like a game and want to sub, you will get your CC as long as you sub before 12/20/12
Free to Play and Update 1.5 go live on Thursday, 11/15/2012. (No details on the maintenance period were given.)
The cheapest package for Cartel Coins: $4.99 for 450 Coins. (90 Cartel Coins per dollar.)
The most expensive package for Cartel Coins: $39.99 for 5500 Coins. (137 Cartel Coins per dollar.)
Several additional packages will be available in between those two prices. The more expensive the package, the better value the player receives.
Subscribers on the one month plan will receive 500 CC per month. Players on the 3 month or 6 month plans will receive more per month. (Exact numbers were not given but will be available next week.)
Former subscribers automatically receive "Preferred" status.
New F2P players receive "Preferred" status upon buying anything from the SWTOR store. The $5 CC package and the security key fob being the cheapest items that will grant Preferred status.
buy.swtor.com will be the site for purchasing Cartel Coins and other items.
Services such as character renames and appearance changes being purchased with CC are possibilities for the future.
Most items bought on the Cartel Market, including content unlocks, can be traded or sold on the GTN by design.
Physical Cartel Coin packs will be available from retail stores. They'll make a great stocking stuffer!
The plan is to update the Cartel Market with new items every month or so.
Players will be able to purchase additional character slots with Cartel Coins shortly after F2P launches.
Limited time or seasonal Cartel Market items are something they're considering but can't commit to at this time.
There are currently no plans to adjust the monthly cost for subscribers.
There are currently no plans to sell subscription time (ala Plex system in EVE) via the Cartel Market.
Character transfers to the PTS are something they are currently working on and will be available in the near future.
From the press email "All former subscribers who reactivate their subscription by the new date of December 20, 2012 at 11:59am CDT will be granted Complimentary Cartel Coins for their prior paid months up to November 15, 2012."
Edit. I have 6 months sub - wow my sub is getting cheaper and cheaper LOL - $12.99 per month + at least $5 from CC - that's less then $8 per month... totally worth it!
Additional change announced today for players who would like to subscribe:
All former subscribers who reactivate their subscription by the new date of December 20, 2012 at 11:59pm CST will be granted Complimentary Cartel Coins for their prior paid months up to November 15, 2012. For more information on all of the rewards you could potentially receive, visit www.StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com/FREE.
So you can get back F2P and if you decide that you like a game and want to sub, you will get your CC as long as you sub before 12/20/12
Also based on some posts on SWTOR forum xp reduction for F2P players is ~25%. Most of players said the difference is not noticable at levels 1-10 though. It might be that the reduction is progressive.
Also somebody mentioned that XP boosts drop as mission rewards so it might be less significant for F2P that it seems.
I would be caucious here with this number though until we get a real comparition data.
Edit. As all XP boosts on Cartel Market are 25% - I think that the initial number for slower experience is correct.
Originally posted by Dahkot72... the amusing part will be if true they picked the F2P date start to be the same as NGE start (bad coincidence I'd say).
Epic irony at the very least.
lol.
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Does it mean that F2P still level at the same pace as players did on release? Or does it mean that they actually get less XP than that and will need to grind levels later on?
That's all that matters to me. I don't care if subscribers get XP boosts, but I do care if F2P means you have to grind XP because they nerfed the XP per turnin or kill.
That was not my experience. but as a Sith assasin I skipped a lot of mob packs so that contributed. there was also a mystery quest on the fleet that sent me back to a planet later on. I didn't see that quest until I was almost past the level to make it worth the return.
If XP is nerfed from the release version, there are definitely going to be issues. But they have since added that daily area which will help.
From Demon Sherbert- "Well, now BioWare is letting players have all that story content for free! That’s not to say there won’t be restrictions – Free-to-Play players will earn experience more slowly, for example, and several aspects of the gameplay experience are limited."
Well, I can think of one advantage of earning experience more slowly: less of a chance to out level content.
Since when is Tuesday a direction?
I'm really amused they picked that date.
And now the circle is complete.
Well i had my time and for the past month have hardly even logged in, i still have about 1 month left after which i am 80% sure i will be dropping the game as i am bored already. If a game is boring after 4mths play then it is not going to improve is it.
I will now more than likely make a return to (cough) pokemon battles and panda's and see what that is like, after all i still have a gametime card left for it.
May also take a look at some other games - Kingdoms of Amalur-reckoning (£9 amazon), Skyrim (£20 amazon not sure though), x-com enemy unknown (£29) and an older game compilation trology (afterlight, afterlife and aftershock) at £2 but so far unsure if these will work on windows 7 64bit as 60% say no and 30% say yes and the remainder dont even say on reports i have looked at.
Any other games worth a look?
more slowly than ???
To make it simple, have they stated they are nerfing XP for F2P players? Because they 100% could just be giving XP buffs to non F2P.
Does it say anywhere that they are NERFING F2P XP from the current version? Or is it unclear? Because I haven't seen anything definitive.
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
i think i would play if it wasnt 15$ a month ...a lower fee per month i would play like 5-10$..makeing it f2p i wouldnt play cuz it will prolly limmit you soooo much that you rly couldnt enjoy it..so yah..still not re-subbin or even going to play for free
I 2nd that so it can kill many meatbags!!!!
All my opinions are just that..opinions. If you like my opinions..coolness.If you dont like my opinion....I really dont care.
Playing: ESO, WOT, Smite, and Marvel Heroes
Slowing down XP would be nice to stay in the lv 1-49 PVP bracket longer. That bracket had faster queue times and far less premades (who ROFLSTOMP'ed everyone and turtled Huttball for more kills).
There is a problem there though, namely that PVP for Freemiums is limited to 5 matches per week. It can be unlocked for ~ $2.50 per week ($10 per month), which isn't really proportionate to the A la Carte that people were looking forward to, especially if doing PVP in conjunction with another weekly unlock game element.
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
I will definitelly get personal trainer. from Cartel Market. This is a cool thing.
1.23 Darth Malgus Holostatue
Looks like Darth Malgus found a new job after False Emperor.. he is now your personal class trainer! Submitted by Andilus. Cooldown is 1m, lasts 20 seconds, and useable by Imperial classes for the trainer function (Republic characters can still summon the statue, just can’t train with it).
1.24 Satele Shan Holostatue
Same function as Darth Malgus but only allow Republic characters to train. Submitted by McDan1el & Vesra
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
BioWare just posted a second vidoe about F2P
http://www.swtor.com/info/media/trailers/free-play-preview-episode-2
http://www.youtube.com/swtheoldrepublic
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
They really are pushing those gambling packs, which cost about $4 each. I wonder what the new subscriber expenditures will be .. was $15 a month ... now ... $30 a month? $50 a month? :-)
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
It optional:) so you don't have to ever click on this golden icon.
I am definitely going to get several gaming packs LOL, but I already have 2500 + 250 at launch CC earned. I also decided that I will add about $20 bucks in addition to sub monthly if stuff will be coming and I will like them. That's my way to support the game I love.
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
My mind is officially blown...
Additional change announced today for players who would like to subscribe:
All former subscribers who reactivate their subscription by the new date of December 20, 2012 at 11:59pm CST will be granted Complimentary Cartel Coins for their prior paid months up to November 15, 2012. For more information on all of the rewards you could potentially receive, visit www.StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com/FREE.
So you can get back F2P and if you decide that you like a game and want to sub, you will get your CC as long as you sub before 12/20/12
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
Do you have an official link by any chance?
http://www.swtor.com/info/news/news-article/20121108
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
From Darth Hater website http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/22284-bioware-press-q-a-reveals-free-to-play-launching
Free To Play and Game Update 1.5 Details
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
Thanks, this news makes me quite happy.
Also based on some posts on SWTOR forum xp reduction for F2P players is ~25%. Most of players said the difference is not noticable at levels 1-10 though. It might be that the reduction is progressive.
Also somebody mentioned that XP boosts drop as mission rewards so it might be less significant for F2P that it seems.
I would be caucious here with this number though until we get a real comparition data.
Edit. As all XP boosts on Cartel Market are 25% - I think that the initial number for slower experience is correct.
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
lol.
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