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  • MosesZDMosesZD Kirkwood, MOPosts: 1,383Member
    Originally posted by QSatu
    Originally posted by botrytis
    It is also on million Wons - looking at the report - that means in USD ~42 million US dollars in one quarter.

    I calculated 51kk $ but I might have made a mistake XP (if 1 KW is 0,0001$). Still I'm not an expert so it would be cool if someone more knowledgeable would check this report =p

     

    I used to do this all the time before I retied from public accounting.   At current conversion it's $42.06 Million USD.   

     

    For those who divide that by the retail price to get to 'real sales'...  There's a special place in hell for people who do that.    Developers sell most of their products at wholesale to the retail chain at about 30% of MSRP.   Of the 2.2 million-ish units sold, last numbers I had were that about 1.8 million were in the retail chain, ANet sold the rest from their GW2 site.

     

    So please, don't pontificate and try to reverse engineer sales.  Or call NCSoft liars because 2.2 million * $60 comes out to $132 million, therefore they must by lying about sales....

     

    It's incredibly annoying and just highlights your ignorance of all things business and financial...

     

     

     

     

  • MosesZDMosesZD Kirkwood, MOPosts: 1,383Member
    Originally posted by Xiaoki

     


    Originally posted by Zeus.CM
    ]By that time, expasion will come that require full box price.

    Really? And when is the expansion coming out? Because you obviously know.

     


    $42 million would mean less than 700,000 copies sold. And thats not including any gems sales.

    But also didnt see when the period ended. So, this might only account for a couple days.


    But from the press release and subsequent sales data we can figure that GW2 is definitely over 2.5 million in sales.


    With that in mind the 4th quarter will obviously be much bigger for Guild Wars 2. So I cant wait for the posts exclaiming "see! GW2 is growing! Haters and trolls proven wrong!"


    We wont get a hint at how GW2 will perform long term until 1st quarter 2013 and 2nd quarter 2013.

     

     

    I knew it.  I knew someone would do this.   I hadn't even gotten this far in the thread and I KNEW that someone would do this...

     

    You can't take wholesale sales and divide by retail price to compute units sold.   A classic mistake of people who simply don't know the basics of  business.

     

  • evolver1972evolver1972 Port Orchard, WAPosts: 1,118Member
    Originally posted by Omnifish
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by Dalano
    Originally posted by Alber_gamer
    Doesn't look very impressive for a super anticipated AAA mmo that just launched. Being B2P means that it has already returned most of its revenue to the company. I mean, it's less money than AION made on the first quarter this same year. I'm looking forward to see the next quarter, when no more boxes are being sold and they'll only make profit from those that still keep playing and use use the gemshop.

     

    Err, since it's a third quarter report and GW2 didn't release until the end of August, that's pretty much September only. Looks pretty good for one month to me. Q4 will really tell the tale though.

    Most sales occur at release and decline, especially true for a game hyped to the max Pre-release.

    Also I would hazzard a guess that most people prepurchsed for the full amount and that would be included in Q3.

    Could be wrong of course, but the bangwagon was at it's strongest in the summer months after the prepurchase became avaliable.  Generally most MMO's don't grow beyond the release date.

    Why would the pre-purchases be included in Q3?  It would make more sense that they be included in Q2 since that's when they actually offered the pre-purchase.

     

    As for the numbers, they look correct if you consider that NCSoft is only the publisher, not the developer.  This is how much gross profit NCSoft made from GW2, not how much it raked in overall or what Anet's cut of it was.

     

    Someone said earlier that publishers generally make $25-$30 per game sold.  So, if they made $25 then the sales figures would be somewhere around 1.7 million.  Considering that pre-purchases totaled around 1 million in Q2 and assuming that money was included in earnings for Q2 (I don't know and too lazy to look it up), that would make a total of around 2.7 million.  Keep in mind these are just estimates based on what we know and some assumptions.  But it sounds about right to me.

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  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by evolver1972
    Originally posted by Omnifish
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by Dalano
    Originally posted by Alber_gamer
    Doesn't look very impressive for a super anticipated AAA mmo that just launched. Being B2P means that it has already returned most of its revenue to the company. I mean, it's less money than AION made on the first quarter this same year. I'm looking forward to see the next quarter, when no more boxes are being sold and they'll only make profit from those that still keep playing and use use the gemshop.

     

    Err, since it's a third quarter report and GW2 didn't release until the end of August, that's pretty much September only. Looks pretty good for one month to me. Q4 will really tell the tale though.

    Most sales occur at release and decline, especially true for a game hyped to the max Pre-release.

    Also I would hazzard a guess that most people prepurchsed for the full amount and that would be included in Q3.

    Could be wrong of course, but the bangwagon was at it's strongest in the summer months after the prepurchase became avaliable.  Generally most MMO's don't grow beyond the release date.

    Why would the pre-purchases be included in Q3?  It would make more sense that they be included in Q2 since that's when they actually offered the pre-purchase.

     

    As for the numbers, they look correct if you consider that NCSoft is only the publisher, not the developer.  This is how much gross profit NCSoft made from GW2, not how much it raked in overall or what Anet's cut of it was.

     

    Someone said earlier that publishers generally make $25-$30 per game sold.  So, if they made $25 then the sales figures would be somewhere around 1.7 million.  Considering that pre-purchases totaled around 1 million in Q2 and assuming that money was included in earnings for Q2 (I don't know and too lazy to look it up), that would make a total of around 2.7 million.  Keep in mind these are just estimates based on what we know and some assumptions.  But it sounds about right to me.

    You can get the link to the 2nd Quarter report and neither B&S NOR GW2 is listed in that report. All profits from both were reported for the 3rd quarter.

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  • LarsaLarsa NurembergPosts: 990Member


    Originally posted by evolver1972

    Why would the pre-purchases be included in Q3?  It would make more sense that they be included in Q2 since that's when they actually offered the pre-purchase.


    Sorry, but I don't think you know what "makes sense" from an accounting point-of-view. Look-up the term "deferred revenue", it's a common accounting practice.


    Originally posted by evolver1972

    As for the numbers, they look correct if you consider that NCSoft is only the publisher, not the developer.  This is how much gross profit NCSoft made from GW2, not how much it raked in overall or what Anet's cut of it was. ...


    Sorry, but that is wrong again. NCSoft is both publisher and developer for GW2. AreneNet is 100% owned by NCSoft and included in the financial report. The report even tells you so.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member


    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    Originally posted by Mahavishnu If this numbers are true, I would say, this is not enough.
    2~ million sales for the first month isn't enough for what exactly?


    Not enough to convince people who don't like the game that it's a success. This is MMORPG.com. That's what every thread is about. People convinced {game here} is a failure, because they don't like it and it wasn't written for them.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • ice-vortexice-vortex Xenia, OHPosts: 951Member
    Originally posted by MosesZD
    Originally posted by QSatu
    Originally posted by botrytis
    It is also on million Wons - looking at the report - that means in USD ~42 million US dollars in one quarter.

    I calculated 51kk $ but I might have made a mistake XP (if 1 KW is 0,0001$). Still I'm not an expert so it would be cool if someone more knowledgeable would check this report =p

     

    I used to do this all the time before I retied from public accounting.   At current conversion it's $42.06 Million USD.   

     

    For those who divide that by the retail price to get to 'real sales'...  There's a special place in hell for people who do that.    Developers sell most of their products at wholesale to the retail chain at about 30% of MSRP.   Of the 2.2 million-ish units sold, last numbers I had were that about 1.8 million were in the retail chain, ANet sold the rest from their GW2 site.

     

    So please, don't pontificate and try to reverse engineer sales.  Or call NCSoft liars because 2.2 million * $60 comes out to $132 million, therefore they must by lying about sales....

     

    It's incredibly annoying and just highlights your ignorance of all things business and financial...

     

    People who do that annoy me to no end. It happens all the time in videogame sales threads and it just brings the average IQ of the entire thread down a notch.

  • MosesZDMosesZD Kirkwood, MOPosts: 1,383Member
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    They only grossed a little over $40 million on GW2 through the end of September (basically the first month of release)?  That doesn't sound right.  That means they only average $20 per box, which includes all the digital sales which should be far closer to the retail price.

     

    AS far as GW2 goes, the improtant thing is to see how much they gross from the gem store every month.

     

    It sounds right.    They wholesale the vast majority of their games.    And the terms are not very favorable.  Take Kingdoms of Alumar.   When 38 Studios went bankrupt, details of the distribution agreement with EA came out in bankruptcy court.  EA took 70% of the revenue for what they sold.   Which isn't that bad, btw.    Which gets us reality  --- Amazon doesn't take a 'few percent.'   They take the bulk of it.    Best Buy takes the bulk of it.    Target takes the bulk of it.   Every person that touches that box takes a slice.  

     

    The developers are lucky to get 30%.  Many times they get less.  

     

    And then we have the delays in payment.  These retailers don't pay it out immediately, either.   The units come in a couple of weeks before the game is due to be released.  The retailer gets an invoice.  The invoice goes to accounts payable (AP) and they pay it out a couple of months later.    Like with Amazon which has, according to Forbes, a 54-day AP cycle.

     

    So, the units that they sold in early August they pay late September.   The units they sold in late August get paid in October.

     

    What's the cutoff?  September 30th...

     

    And it's this way with digital distribution.  You download the game September 1st, NCSoft gets its money sometime in November.

     

    Now, to make it even more annoying, it's not even close to that simple.  They're all accrual-based corporations so some of this they've actually accrued.  HOWEVER, not all of it because they get reporting delays from their retailers on digital distribution.  So, in fact, you can't tell more than just a ball-park...

     

    The truth is, accounting is hard.  That's why you have to (now) have a Master's Degree in Accounting (or equivalent) to even sit for the CPA exam.     That's why 98% of people who enter the public accounting profession leave within five years.     It's hard, complex work with more rules than you can shake a stick at...

  • IPolygonIPolygon ViennaPosts: 707Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Larsa

    Originally posted by evolver1972Why would the pre-purchases be included in Q3?  It would make more sense that they be included in Q2 since that's when they actually offered the pre-purchase.

    Sorry, but I don't think you know what "makes sense" from an accounting point-of-view. Look-up the term "deferred revenue", it's a common accounting practice.


    Originally posted by evolver1972

    As for the numbers, they look correct if you consider that NCSoft is only the publisher, not the developer.  This is how much gross profit NCSoft made from GW2, not how much it raked in overall or what Anet's cut of it was. ...


    Sorry, but that is wrong again. NCSoft is both publisher and developer for GW2. AreneNet is 100% owned by NCSoft and included in the financial report. The report even tells you so.

     

    Nope, it doesn't. ANet have said multiple times they enjoy much freedom and have the backup of NCSoft. You don't do that if you basically are the same, unless you are schizophrenic.
  • LarsaLarsa NurembergPosts: 990Member
    Originally posted by IPolygon
    Originally posted by Larsa

     


    Originally posted by evolver1972

     

    Why would the pre-purchases be included in Q3?  It would make more sense that they be included in Q2 since that's when they actually offered the pre-purchase.


     

    Sorry, but I don't think you know what "makes sense" from an accounting point-of-view. Look-up the term "deferred revenue", it's a common accounting practice.

     


    Originally posted by evolver1972

     

    As for the numbers, they look correct if you consider that NCSoft is only the publisher, not the developer.  This is how much gross profit NCSoft made from GW2, not how much it raked in overall or what Anet's cut of it was. ...


     

    Sorry, but that is wrong again. NCSoft is both publisher and developer for GW2. AreneNet is 100% owned by NCSoft and included in the financial report. The report even tells you so.

     

    Nope, it doesn't. ANet have said multiple times they enjoy much freedom and have the backup of NCSoft. You don't do that if you basically are the same, unless you are schizophrenic.

     

    You seem to have a problem with comprehension: the financial report clearly states that the results of ArenaNet are included. ArenaNet is a 100% owned subsidiary of NCSoft.

     

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  • CalerxesCalerxes LondonPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by IPolygon
    Originally posted by Larsa

     


    Originally posted by evolver1972

     

    Why would the pre-purchases be included in Q3?  It would make more sense that they be included in Q2 since that's when they actually offered the pre-purchase.


     

    Sorry, but I don't think you know what "makes sense" from an accounting point-of-view. Look-up the term "deferred revenue", it's a common accounting practice.

     


    Originally posted by evolver1972

     

    As for the numbers, they look correct if you consider that NCSoft is only the publisher, not the developer.  This is how much gross profit NCSoft made from GW2, not how much it raked in overall or what Anet's cut of it was. ...


     

    Sorry, but that is wrong again. NCSoft is both publisher and developer for GW2. AreneNet is 100% owned by NCSoft and included in the financial report. The report even tells you so.

     

    Nope, it doesn't. ANet have said multiple times they enjoy much freedom and have the backup of NCSoft. You don't do that if you basically are the same, unless you are schizophrenic.

     

    They may have creative freedom but they sure don't have financial freedom.

     

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  • SukiyakiSukiyaki GreenwichPosts: 1,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    To those pretending Blade and Soul does better than GW2, you're comparing a sub based game during 3 months with a B2P game released since only one month. Apples and Oranges. But considering who posted such comparisons, the misinformation is not surprising.

    Massively.com made the comparison... Are accusing massively of misinformation too?

    Yes, wouldnt be the first time.

    Like Massively ( = Joistic = Blizzards dandy boy media outlet) recently tearing over NCSoft profits in the red numbers writing it off  as if the company was going bancrupt, completely ignorant of the high investment spikes, high labour cost spikes and the company releasing two new major games free betas which both now already made more tha n 90 Million Dollar together in less than 4 months time.

    In the end you where wrong and biased The others where wrong and biased. Massively where wrong and clueless/biased. Collectively repeating the same false information, does not make it any less wrong.

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,273Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sukiyaki
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    To those pretending Blade and Soul does better than GW2, you're comparing a sub based game during 3 months with a B2P game released since only one month. Apples and Oranges. But considering who posted such comparisons, the misinformation is not surprising.

    Massively.com made the comparison... Are accusing massively of misinformation too?

    Yes, wouldnt be the first time.

    Like Massively ( = Joistic = Blizzards dandy boy media outlet) recently tearing over NCSoft profits in the red numbers writing it off  as if the company was going bancrupt, completely ignorant of the high investment spikes, high labour cost spikes and the company releasing two new major games free betas which both now already made more tha n 90 Million Dollar together in less than 4 months time.

    In the end you where wrong and biased The others where wrong and biased. Massively where wrong and clueless/biased. Collectively repeating the same false information, does not make it any less wrong.

    I'm going to side with the massively on this one. It's gonna take more than you saying they are wrong.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,200Member Uncommon

    Originally posted by Prenho
    I miss Lineage 1, NCSoft should have turned L1 into F2P in US before shutting down US serves. The only thing I can do now is waiting for Lineage Eternal(L1 sequel).

    Me too!  I played on LoA and was in Republic of Texas (rotx) bloodpledge.  I miss the game, but I'm not sure the same sort of community will return.  It was the community along with the game play that made it so great.

    Originally posted by bcbully

    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    To those pretending Blade and Soul does better than GW2, you're comparing a sub based game during 3 months with a B2P game released since only one month. Apples and Oranges. But considering who posted such comparisons, the misinformation is not surprising.

    Massively.com made the comparison... Are accusing massively of misinformation too?

    If they stated that B&S performed better then YES, they misinterpreted and published misleading or false analysis.  I know you have an agenda to set the fans of the game straight, but you should just read the PDF in your d/l link.

    Originally posted by lizardbones


    Originally posted by ice-vortex

    Originally posted by Mahavishnu If this numbers are true, I would say, this is not enough.
    2~ million sales for the first month isn't enough for what exactly?
    Not enough to convince people who don't like the game that it's a success. This is MMORPG.com. That's what every thread is about. People convinced {game here} is a failure, because they don't like it and it wasn't written for them.

    This is the unfortunate truth.  Instead of talking about a game's strengths and weaknesses and what it has to offer we waste time spinning on the stupid shit.

  • sammyelisammyeli Fremont, CAPosts: 765Member

    Looks like WoW is the cause of this stock drop amirite?????

     

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,200Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by Sukiyaki
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    To those pretending Blade and Soul does better than GW2, you're comparing a sub based game during 3 months with a B2P game released since only one month. Apples and Oranges. But considering who posted such comparisons, the misinformation is not surprising.

    Massively.com made the comparison... Are accusing massively of misinformation too?

    Yes, wouldnt be the first time.

    Like Massively ( = Joistic = Blizzards dandy boy media outlet) recently tearing over NCSoft profits in the red numbers writing it off  as if the company was going bancrupt, completely ignorant of the high investment spikes, high labour cost spikes and the company releasing two new major games free betas which both now already made more tha n 90 Million Dollar together in less than 4 months time.

    In the end you where wrong and biased The others where wrong and biased. Massively where wrong and clueless/biased. Collectively repeating the same false information, does not make it any less wrong.

    I'm going to side with the massively on this one. It's gonna take more than you saying they are wrong.

    Maybe you should try and read and think for yourself instead.  In Q3 GW2 performed better than any other NCSoft title garnering 27% of the pre-royalty revenue.

  • SukiyakiSukiyaki GreenwichPosts: 1,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Xiaoki

     


    Originally posted by Sukiyaki
    Some more interesting stuff:

     

    NCSoft  marketing Q2: 4 Million $US

    NCSoft  marketing Q3: 7 Million $US

    Activision Blizzard marketing Q2: 127 Million $US

    Activision Blizzard marketing Q3: 131 Million $US

     

    GW2 Western boxsales inc cashshop 45 Million

    WoW global Q3 sales inc. subscriptions, cashshop and global MOP boxsales 345 Million

     

    NCSoft global: 164 Million

    ActivisionBlizzard global: 697 Million

     

    Doesnt look like like all that sub money is going into "content updates" and "service".

    Activsion Bizzard just spent more than 20% of their revenues on marketing or about equal to all MOP boxsales just for hype. NCSoft not even full 4%

    And their fanbois called GW2 overhyped...

     I really want to see how Nexon is doing now... 


    This post is actually quite funny because someone took it seriously.

     


    The Activision Blizzard marketing was for the entire company, meaning commercials for Skylanders and CoD as well as Diablo 3 and MoP. Did you think that marketing was exclusively for WoW or something?


    Also, what profit WoW does make goes to Activision Blizzard, the company that owns Blizzard.

    Your post is quite funny because your argument goes both ways and thus is irrelevant. Its not like I ever said it wasnt for the entire company. No in fact I even had that covered in the post. But unlike you for both companies. But even your failed argument didnt touch the 20% vs 4% gap between both companies. You should have taken your repsonse more seriously.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ice-vortex
    Originally posted by Mahavishnu
    If this numbers are true, I would say, this is not enough.

    2~ million sales for the first month isn't enough for what exactly?

    $43 million gross from those 2 million box sales + September sales of gems for cash isn't really that hot.  Not that hot at all.

     

    I don't have an agenda.  I don't want GW2 to fail, I want them to succeed because I like their business model and think they just need to correct end game.

  • Creslin4321Creslin4321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 19Member

    Threads like this are why I deleted my account lol.

    Please guys...just step back and look at what you are doing.  It's such a waste of time...you don't need to sit here and try to learn accounting just so you can justify your opinion that a game is failing or successful.

    Imagine what you could accomplish if you channeled all this energy into something else.  Maybe next time you have a test coming up, just imagine that your teacher is trying to prove that GW2 is a failure (if you are a fan) or a great success (if you are not), and the only way to disprove her is to get a great score on the test.

  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,565Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Creslin4321
    Threads like this are why I deleted my account lol.

    haha best line ever!

    I was wondering where you went. Just ask them to un-delete your account

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,273Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by Sukiyaki
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    To those pretending Blade and Soul does better than GW2, you're comparing a sub based game during 3 months with a B2P game released since only one month. Apples and Oranges. But considering who posted such comparisons, the misinformation is not surprising.

    Massively.com made the comparison... Are accusing massively of misinformation too?

    Yes, wouldnt be the first time.

    Like Massively ( = Joistic = Blizzards dandy boy media outlet) recently tearing over NCSoft profits in the red numbers writing it off  as if the company was going bancrupt, completely ignorant of the high investment spikes, high labour cost spikes and the company releasing two new major games free betas which both now already made more tha n 90 Million Dollar together in less than 4 months time.

    In the end you where wrong and biased The others where wrong and biased. Massively where wrong and clueless/biased. Collectively repeating the same false information, does not make it any less wrong.

    I'm going to side with the massively on this one. It's gonna take more than you saying they are wrong.

    Maybe you should try and read and think for yourself instead.  In Q3 GW2 performed better than any other NCSoft title garnering 27% of the pre-royalty revenue.

    I highlighted what my post pertains too. Better or worse considering launch location and w/e else idk.

     

    It was massively who made the comparision though. Not OP.

  • XasapisXasapis VolosPosts: 5,561Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    Originally posted by MosesZD
    Originally posted by Xasapis
    Looks like Blade & Soul is doing better than GW2, considering that it's only available in Korea.

    How is that?    GW2 sold more units...    It make 10 billion more KRW...

    And GW2 did that in one single month of release without any subscriptions, while Blade and Soul was already launched during the whole three months and is sub based.

    Truth is, GW2 crushes Blade and Soul success wise. Big time.

    If game A makes a profit of 80M by selling just in, say France, while game B makes a 100M profit by selling worldwide, you'd consider game B more profitable?

    Also, a subscription based game sold only in one country made almost the same profit as the fabled subsription killer sold everywhere?

    The financial situation that NCsoft is finding itself due to the underperforming heavy hitters raises some further questions:

    • Can Anet finance both the service model and the development of new content at an acceptable pace? (The previous title is not an indication, since it wasn't a full fledged mmoprg.)
    • Is the B2P model as presented in GW2 an actual viable alternative to the subscription and F2P models? (So many threads in these forums tooting the death of subscription, only to see the financial results not backing those claims).
    The next quarter will definitely be more interesting, since it will be crystal clear on whether the third quarter had the bulk of sales due to the multi-month pre-order campaign (campaign launched on April 10th, game launched almost 5 months later on August 28th) and how well the cash shop can finance the game in the long term.
  • Creslin4321Creslin4321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 19Member
    Originally posted by Foomerang

     


    Originally posted by Creslin4321
    Threads like this are why I deleted my account lol.

     

    haha best line ever!

    I was wondering where you went. Just ask them to un-delete your account

     Hehe nah, I want it to stay deleted.  For some reason, the fact that it doesn't exist anymore makes me feel much less inclined to get involved with threads like this.

    Anytime I think I might want to involve myself in a massive circular argument, I just look at my newbie account name in the upper left hand corner of my screen and am reminded not to ;).

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Creslin4321
    Originally posted by Foomerang

     


    Originally posted by Creslin4321
    Threads like this are why I deleted my account lol.

     

    haha best line ever!

    I was wondering where you went. Just ask them to un-delete your account

     Hehe nah, I want it to stay deleted.  For some reason, the fact that it doesn't exist anymore makes me feel much less inclined to get involved with threads like this.

    Anytime I think I might want to involve myself in a massive circular argument, I just look at my newbie account name in the upper left hand corner of my screen and am reminded not to ;).

    Don't run from your calling Creslin. You were destined, like all of us, to be a forum creep!

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  • Creslin4321Creslin4321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 19Member
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    Originally posted by Creslin4321
    Originally posted by Foomerang

     


    Originally posted by Creslin4321
    Threads like this are why I deleted my account lol.

     

    haha best line ever!

    I was wondering where you went. Just ask them to un-delete your account

     Hehe nah, I want it to stay deleted.  For some reason, the fact that it doesn't exist anymore makes me feel much less inclined to get involved with threads like this.

    Anytime I think I might want to involve myself in a massive circular argument, I just look at my newbie account name in the upper left hand corner of my screen and am reminded not to ;).

    Don't run from your calling Creslin. You were destined, like all of us, to be a forum creep!

     

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