I won't be playing anymore pure themeparks at all, unless I see something extraordinarily outside the current norm. So far, TESO is showing me nothing at all that seems exciting. Sounds like more of the same with a few tweaks here and there.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
If ESO is a good game, I'll play it. I don't care if it happens to be sandbox, themepark, hybrid, whatever. Far too many people here are so stuck on the black/white, either/or attitude of trying to fit any given MMO into a specific sub-genre. It's like talking politics with people, where everyone has been gravitating to the extremes lately.
These polls are silly lately. If TESO is like Wow then the question is not whether you like Wow or not but whether you like the moderm themepark model. TESO is not Wow so the question is about how it is implemented. There are tons of themepark games out there and if you like or hate them it has nothing to do with liking or hating Wow. There is no choice for that for I cannot choose an option.
From the very limited info we are receiving, it looks to be a blend of WoW and GW2 with the ES flavor. The combat system alone is making me want to give it a try though. You can still wield whatever weapon(s) and use typical ES mechanics like blocking and power attacks. The classes seem to just narrow down your secondary skill choices, and allows the developers to make more flavor choices for folks when they are selecting powers.
Before I make any judgements on whether I will play or not, I will need to see actual gameplay though. The proof is always in the pudding.
I'm already not playing it. At first I was looking forwards to it as it sounded like a cross between tes and daoc, with the talk of open dungeons, rvr endgame, tes style crafting, no quest hubs just wander off and find stuff - it sounded good.
Then we got. "of course we have mini game pvp too" "of course we have instanced dungeons too" "we have raid end game too" "hey now we are using this mega server where we instance each zone"
Refuse to play anymore "raiders first" mmos, or mmos where endgame is a glorified lobby game.
No, I'm pretty much done with standard theme park MMO's, but....if the 3 faction PVP really does work out more like DAOC than perhaps I could be lured in. (and that would mean it wasn't a clone now, wouldn't it?)
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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if teso is a linear porgression, quest hub, gear treadmill, dungeon finder, fomulated mmo. would you still play it?
Think I am done with playing mmorpg's which are just a framework for matchmaking aka "cross-server auto-teleport press a button to get into instance". So I would not.
Not a chance. I've played WoW on and off for 7 years. I have nothing bad to say about it. It's just not what I want out of an MMO anymore. I need a strong focus on RvR and territory control like DAOC had, otherwise I will not play it.
Nothing I've heard yet has garnered my interest. I'm not a big ES fan. I played through Oblivion but found it disappointing. I'll eventually play Skyrim and believe I will enjoy it much more.
I'd probably be more interested in TESO if it was made by the Skyrim devs themselves.
Good WoW clone meaning polished engine, alternative leveling zones, numerous battlegrounds and raids topped with arena PVP as endgame? Most definitely yes.
Bad attempt at cloning WoW with no features mentioned above (aka SWTOR)? Most definitely not.
They already announced 3-faction PVP, action combat and quest system similar to GW2 hearts, so I don't see where's this WoW clone thing coming from.
Nothing I've heard yet has garnered my interest. I'm not a big ES fan. I played through Oblivion but found it disappointing. I'll eventually play Skyrim and believe I will enjoy it much more.
I'd probably be more interested in TESO if it was made by the Skyrim devs themselves.
Install and download Nehrim. It is free and legal total conversion mod for Obvilion. Totally new and separate game from Oblivion, everything is new there.. It is MUCH better than original Oblivion. Just it's start in mines is bad everything after is exceptional.
or / and Morrowind + Morrowind Overhaul mod 3.0 is also great and much much better than original Oblivion.
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I won't be playing anymore pure themeparks at all, unless I see something extraordinarily outside the current norm. So far, TESO is showing me nothing at all that seems exciting. Sounds like more of the same with a few tweaks here and there.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
You say as if playing 'WOW clone' makes you an outcast in society and you will never get laid.
Yes i will still play it. I could care less who is cloning whom as long as i get a fun and enaging gameplay.
If ESO is a good game, I'll play it. I don't care if it happens to be sandbox, themepark, hybrid, whatever. Far too many people here are so stuck on the black/white, either/or attitude of trying to fit any given MMO into a specific sub-genre. It's like talking politics with people, where everyone has been gravitating to the extremes lately.
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From the very limited info we are receiving, it looks to be a blend of WoW and GW2 with the ES flavor. The combat system alone is making me want to give it a try though. You can still wield whatever weapon(s) and use typical ES mechanics like blocking and power attacks. The classes seem to just narrow down your secondary skill choices, and allows the developers to make more flavor choices for folks when they are selecting powers.
Before I make any judgements on whether I will play or not, I will need to see actual gameplay though. The proof is always in the pudding.
I'm already not playing it. At first I was looking forwards to it as it sounded like a cross between tes and daoc, with the talk of open dungeons, rvr endgame, tes style crafting, no quest hubs just wander off and find stuff - it sounded good.
Then we got.
"of course we have mini game pvp too"
"of course we have instanced dungeons too"
"we have raid end game too"
"hey now we are using this mega server where we instance each zone"
Refuse to play anymore "raiders first" mmos, or mmos where endgame is a glorified lobby game.
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
No, I'm pretty much done with standard theme park MMO's, but....if the 3 faction PVP really does work out more like DAOC than perhaps I could be lured in. (and that would mean it wasn't a clone now, wouldn't it?)
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
There has never and will never be an MMO that is a WOW clone, me think people don't know the definition of the word clone.
a person or thing regarded as an exact copy of another:
a computer designed to simulate exactly the operation of another, typically more expensive, model:
make an identical copy of:
Now if the OP is asking if TESO has quests and races and classes and PVE and PVP will i play it, yes i will.
If i go by the OP then i would never play MMOs again.
Wrong! I'm married. WoW is what happened AFTER all that.
Using the term "WoW clone" has really become cliche. It's like calling all heavy metal bands "Sabbath clones"
WoW does a lot of things right and while I don't play the game anymore, I'm certainly not opposed to other companies using ideas from WoW.
And just like almost every other MMO player I know, I'll probably give ESO a shot for a month or two then make a decision from there.
i think the majority of people understand the way in which i used the term "wow clone". but if you want further clarification.....
if teso is a linear porgression, quest hub, gear treadmill, dungeon finder, fomulated mmo. would you still play it?
lol once again Totally
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
Did you miss the part i have now made yellow
Think I am done with playing mmorpg's which are just a framework for matchmaking aka "cross-server auto-teleport press a button to get into instance". So I would not.
Yes I would.
However, Unless they make another complete U-turn in the desgin I doubt it will play like a "WoW-clone".
Nothing I've heard yet has garnered my interest. I'm not a big ES fan. I played through Oblivion but found it disappointing. I'll eventually play Skyrim and believe I will enjoy it much more.
I'd probably be more interested in TESO if it was made by the Skyrim devs themselves.
Wait, so isn't TESO cloning DAoC?
So if TESO == WoW clone
than doesn't that mean DAoC== WoW clone?
Hummmm interesting...
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Good WoW clone meaning polished engine, alternative leveling zones, numerous battlegrounds and raids topped with arena PVP as endgame? Most definitely yes.
Bad attempt at cloning WoW with no features mentioned above (aka SWTOR)? Most definitely not.
They already announced 3-faction PVP, action combat and quest system similar to GW2 hearts, so I don't see where's this WoW clone thing coming from.
Install and download Nehrim. It is free and legal total conversion mod for Obvilion. Totally new and separate game from Oblivion, everything is new there.. It is MUCH better than original Oblivion. Just it's start in mines is bad everything after is exceptional.
or / and Morrowind + Morrowind Overhaul mod 3.0 is also great and much much better than original Oblivion.
It sounds more like your typical modern themepark now.
Instanced dungeons, instanced pvp, raids, multiple shards of each world zone.
Daoc had zero instancing, its not "daoc 2"